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hey everyone Scott Roberts here from explore scientific and the Explorer Alliance tonight is the 115th Global
star party with the special theme of Attraction of course attraction in the way that a lot of astronomers might
think of it has to do with how gravity attracts one thing or another
um you know the our Milky Way galaxy is going towards What's called the Great attractor at uh over a million miles per
hour so it's it's kind of incredible to think that we are moving through space at
these unbelievable speeds we have a great lineup of speakers
including uh Maxi filari's who will co-host our program today he will come
on First and introduce David Levy who will come on and uh you know say some
words of wisdom and cite some poetry or or make a quotation he always surprises
us every time and then we have Terry Mann from the astronomical League I
think I have the most recent issue of the reflector magazine this is what every member gets from the astronomical
league as a wonderful publication that talks about all the things that's going on of
course Terry will fill us in uh live today with all of that um and then we have Dave eicher Dave
eicher is continuing on with his exotic deep Sky objects and he'll surprise you
with his information about uh the galaxies and a quasar I believe on this
particular event then we've got Robert Reeves who's one of the coordinators of
the Texas Star Party he is going to tell us all about that particular event I've
been several times it is a really great deep sky dark sky place to go to out
there in West Texas JPL scientist Steve edberg will be with
with us to talk about the era of planetary defense something that we kind of touched on on
the 114th Global star party and then we'll have a break uh our normal 10-minute break with Daniel Dr Daniel
Barth who will be talking about his latest project deep tea good Tom from Nepal she
does astronomy Outreach there she's been doing this through high school I imagine she'll carry on into her adult life she
is going to uh share with us live from Nepal and you know she's always got you
know she usually follows the themes of global star parties so and sometimes tells some poetry which is kind of cool
um Dr Marcelo Souza from Brazil will be with us uh uh Cesar brolo from Argentina
will be with us uh Adrian Bradley um you know with his uh nightscapes and
uh John Schwartz who's an astronomer uh very enthusiastic astronomer and artist
so he'll be with this as well so it's all coming up now
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imagine having a Galaxy fall on your head and you survive the experience NASA astronomers say that's exactly
what's going to happen to our Milky Way galaxy approximately 4 billion years from now
new data from the Hubble Space Telescope confirmed that the Milky Way is on a collision course with the great
Andromeda Galaxy when the mashup occurs say researchers it's likely the sun will be flung into a
new region of our galaxy but Earth and the solar system are in no danger of
being destroyed after nearly a century of speculation about the future Destiny of Andromeda
and our Milky Way We At Last have a clear picture of how events will unfold over the coming billions of years says
sangmo Tony son of the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore Maryland
astronomers have long known that Andromeda and the Milky Way were converging Drawn Together by their
Mutual pull of gravity and an invisible Dark Matter Halo that surrounds them both
but no one knew whether the far future encounter would be a near-miss a glancing blow or a head-on smash-up
it all depends on the amount of andromeda's sideways motion a lot of sideways motion would allow Andromeda to
sail wide of the Milky Way missing our galaxy entirely less of it would bring
the two galaxies directly together the Hubble team led by Roland vandemarel
of the Space Telescope Science Institute conducted extraordinarily precise observations of the sideways motion that
removes any doubt Andromeda is destined to collide directly and merge with the
Milky Way although the two galaxies will plow into each other stars inside each
Galaxy are so far apart that they will not Collide individually instead the
Stars will be thrown into different orbits around a new combined galactic center
simulations show that our own sun will probably be tossed much farther from the galactic core than it is today
team member gertina besla of Columbia University in New York describes what a
head-on collision will be like the Stellar populations of both galaxies would be jostled and the Milky Way will
lose its flattened pancake shape the two galaxies cores will merge and the Stars
will settle into randomized orbits to create a new elliptical shaped Galaxy
to make matters more complicated Andromeda has a companion the triangulum Galaxy also known as m33
m33 is a relatively small Galaxy not nearly as large as Andromeda or the
Milky Way nevertheless it could play a big role m33 will join in the collision and
perhaps later merge with the Andromeda Milky Way pair there's even a small chance that m33
might hit the Milky Way first amazingly Earth and the solar system should emerge
from the melee unscathed we'll just have a new Galactic address and perhaps a
night sky with a double helping of stars it turns out that a Galaxy falling on your head isn't so bad after all
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well hello everyone this is Scott Roberts from explore scientific and uh
I'm here to introduce Maxi filaries who will be uh being our co-host today
um so Maxie I'm going to turn it right over to you thanks for coming on to the 115th goal
start party well thank you Scott good night everyone I'm glad to be here again uh so well
like many people maybe not know who I am I'm an amateur astrophotographer from
the southern hemisphere from Argentina uh I started almost five years ago uh
taking pictures with my cell phone above a telescope then trying to go further
and now I can get a I could get a more
not like professional gear but uh I I hope one day I could finally reach that
so but well you know I I'm really glad to be here
co-hosting with Scott and of course with the master David eicher terryman from
the assembly League Adrian Bradley the man of the a Galaxy's pictures
and of course uh to now we have a lot of guests and I think uh they believe it's
a I don't know if Brian connect with us but if you want I want to show you what
I did in my last couple of weeks because I could be here I only going to show you
my Instagram page if you want to follow uh give a like or share because I do
this to share to everyone what I what is outside even taking pictures to the Moon
taking pictures to the Deep Sky objects and also taking pictures to planets or
maybe nature but in this case let me share my screen
uh uh okay do you see it
yes okay well this is my Instagram page he calls Astro Max okay I
it created a couple months ago and this is my last latest work that I've been
doing this couple uh weeks uh I started uh with the the comment
seeing a 2022 E3 uh this was outside of
my city because it was clearly nearby a Mars but in this case this is a bright
star so I had the opportunity to to capture with a lens and the the my my
astrophotography camera but then I went to Alberti that is a
city nearby mine uh when I've been I I
stayed tonight because we had a a long a
weekend because it was Festival holidays here in Argentina so I I want to I to take
pictures of galaxies and of course to the the government in this case I did this picture of the uh um the the
c83 or NGC a 49 45 this is a particular
galaxy in the south southern region in nearby the Omega Centauri
a global cluster also The Centaurus a but particularly this one has a lot of
galaxies uh mostly um elliptical galaxies or really farther
away if you go to my Instagram page you will have a
the this link that you can go to to watch this picture most more
bigger or with more details uh like you can see this is a really huge Galaxy
but there's a lot of galaxies behind this case there's one behind this Price
Star and this is the elliptical galaxy and
then I capture this particular particularly Southern Galaxy
this is the NGC 29 97
and I think it was nearby Atria constellation
and like the another one this also has a
particularly arms and it's pretty similar to the M83 Galaxy but that one
is more bigger to to capture anyway there's a lot of space here a a little a
shiny stars and a lot of galaxies really far away so this is a particular Galaxy
to to capture because you have here the the central nucleus uh to because I I
love that capture that and of course the the queen of the night it was the the comet
in this case taking with my telescope and that night I did this animation but
I don't know if you can't
it looks like we have uh yeah technical difficulties
difficulty is the information is impeding on his
his audio Yeah Yeah yeah it could be could be
he should pop up when the animation is over we hope yeah
that's a beautiful picture that was a beautiful picture in a very
informative introduction I was enjoying it yeah it does good work
and it was only a matter of time there it goes it's only a matter of time before the southern hemisphere got their
clutches on uh on E3 and they didn't miss
right well let's see if uh if Maxie will come
back on here so um but uh
well maybe not um blame it on sunspots
Ray bursters grb that's right
well um and David Levy is also running late I
think um or has an issue as well so that's that's very unusual
um I think what we'll do right now is uh go right to uh Terry Mann from the
astronomical League and um you know I think that uh
um we're we're kind of Switching gears a little bit we have been running door prizes uh through the astronomical
league and we really want to thank them for for doing that for well over a year it was it was uh it was really great
they came up with uh questions and answers each time but now we're going to
be focusing more on the facets of what the astronomical league is and without
further Ado I'll bring Terry Mann who's a two-term president former president
and currently the secretary of the astronomical League well thank you Scott
thank you Scott I appreciate that uh it's good to be here I've been kind of
AOL for a while so um let me go ahead and share my
screen and we'll start what we had discussed is
a lot of people right now one of the things the league is working on is we
have our deadline for all of our astronomical League Awards coming up so what I'd like to do tonight is go over
just a few of the awards that will be presented this year at Alcon and I had
someone again Ask me okay why do you call the astronomical League conference
outcome and it's because the Al and then conference so it's astronomical League
conference but short um Alcon so one of our first awards and
Scott you might want to jump in on any of these anywhere along the way because I put the three that you sponsor right
up front well that's very kind of you well that has so many other Awards you know so yeah but though these are Big
Awards uh the Peltier award is actually named after Leslie Peltier uh which
lived in Delphos Ohio which I was very fortunate to go up with one of our club members that knew peltier's family and
with the Miami Valley Astronomical Society actually has Leslie peltier's
Merry-Go-Round not the actual merry ground because that has pretty much disintegrated Merry-Go-Round was a
telescope right or it was a actually a building with a steering wheel and a seat and the whole building would rotate
around with the telescope it is an incredible thing to see and the club has
you know redone it rebuilt it but it is the original idea the original one came
from Leslie pelje's place I went up there with him and just to get into his
old Observatory was amazing so you know that's one of the guys from Ohio and
this award is named after him and Harlow shapley which was one of the League's
Founders referred to Peltier as the world's greatest non-professional
astronomer so every year uh most every year we
present to Leslie Peltier award to an astronomer who has contribute contributed to astronomical observations
of lasting effect so Leslie peltier's award will be presented in um
yeah Baton Rouge have to stop and think where we're going to be this year in Baton Rouge and explore scientific does
US sponsor this award so again Scott thank you and you will notice most of
our Awards I'm going to talk about tonight are the deadline is the end of this month on March 31st and if you're
interested what I will give you is a very brief idea of what the award is check our website and I will be the
first to tell you we're in the process of redesigning the website some of our material might not be up to
date but who to contact will be up to date or you can contact me as secretary
at astrowleague.org if you can't reach anybody else you'll be able to reach me
and this is just an idea of the winners that we have seen over the years
um and so many of us will recognize so many of these people um amazing especially uh yeah variable
stars um planetary astronomers there yeah a lot of people we've all met and
known and uh these are just a few I mean every year as I said this award is
presented the next one another one that explore scientific sponsors and that's a
national young astronomer award which we call neuya uh this recognizes outstanding work of amateur astronomers
of high school age and some of the projects that we have seen come out of these kids is amazing these guys really
love what they do and you can see it in all the work that they turn in but the applicant must be a U.S citizen and
enrolled in high school between the ages of 14 and 19
and there are just Endless Possibilities here this is an incredible word as I
said explore scientific um sponsors there is a telescope that goes along with all of this uh the first
place winner and I believe this uh second place winner there's all kinds of
perks that goes with this but the main thing is this really touches the younger people because they
realize and we all want them to realize they add a lot to the astronomical
Community whether it's the league or school or clubs or wherever they add so
much and as you can see as you read some of these titles just how complex some of
their topics have been and I mean it has been amazing they present at every Alcon
there is an afternoon or a couple of hours that the winners of all these Awards will present what they have what
their title what they have won with and to listen to them talk about their projects is just unbelievable
they are really people that are so interested and so wrapped up in what
they are studying that they've they've taught us all something every one of us so this is an amazing award the national
young astronomer and that also the deadline is also March 31st now at
there'll be another GSP there'll be two more this month and we have two other people that will be on if any of these
deadlines are extended uh I will make sure that they bring it up at one of the
next gsps the Willamina Fleming Imaging award this
is pretty much a brand new award which also explores scientific also sponsors
it just started in 2021 and what they were what we all wanted to do was
recognize the women that are astrophotographers um and so this is a woman's
astrophotography award and like I said it started in 2021 to be
eligible and naturally you must be a female 19 years of age and a member uh
at least 19 years of age and a member of the astronomical League
um this is a really cool award and look for it we kind of since it's so new
we've tweaked it just about a little bit every year and we might tweak it a little bit more this year so we'll see
exactly what's going to happen but please look at the website contact me if
you need to and I can probably answer any questions if I can't I will find the
answers out this is a pin that the women that enter for this award will receive
the very first time they enter for this award and then there are also beautiful
plaques beautiful plaques I wish I didn't take a picture but I should have taken a picture and put that on here
this is an incredibly fun award and to get the women together that shoot all of
this it is amazing to see just you know what is being done but it's really great
when we can also get with all of the men everybody that does astrophotography you
get us all together and we can all geek out at the same time and you know the women are just as much as men and it is
just an amazing award and the guys too we really appreciate the men that do
this but this one was just kind of set up for the women [Music] Jack Hart primer Youth Awards we have uh
I believe it's four uh in the suite of Jack corkheimer Youth Awards now this is
from the horkheimer charitable fun sponsors for Youth Awards annually to
our Service Awards one is an Imaging award and one is a journalism award uh and Jack horkheimer left this for the
league because he wanted to continue on recognizing how important the Youth
Awards were so one of them is the horkheimer Smith which is named after Arthur Smith Jr the 13th president of
the league and it was the person that inspired Jack horkheimer's interest in
astronomy second one is the horkheimer dioria many of us knew Tippy Diora uh it was named
after him he was just an incredible Force for the winter Star Party
orchheimer Parker now Don Parker everybody Don was an amazing imager a
dung would just you could learn you could stand beside this man and learn something so this Imaging award is named
after Don Parker and the O'Meara uh this is a journalism award and this award was
named after uh Donna O'Mara and it was this is for a person of eight years old
to 14 composes of 300 to 500 word essay on any science topic and that is how
they enter for that award and again please check the website there is so much more information about every award
that I am speaking about Mabel Stearns this is a newsletter award Mabel Stearns
was named after the lady that did our first newsletter for the astronomical league and as you can see with some of
the winners here um from the Mabel Stearns award and that one is awarded every year too there are
some amazing newsletters out there uh the astronomical League website award
boy we have seen some incredible websites I think when people were off for covet everybody start tweaking
websites we have seen some incredible stuff uh and this award is also
presented every year just to see and it's nice to look at these uh websites and talk to these
people and see you know maybe how they were thinking or how they wanted that website to look and how they did that
and just how much traffic it is amazing when you see the numbers for some of these websites
so I am going to talk briefly about Alcon we will be in Baton Rouge
Louisiana this year July 26 to July 29th everybody will be leaving on Sunday
Saturday night is our banquet when all of these awards are presented
uh this is a hotel we will be at Baton Rouge uh the Hilton Baton Rouge of Capitol Center Hotel this is where we
will be at we're looking for the website to go online at the end of this month and there will be a few extra days
before and a few extra days after if you want to stay in that area
keynote speakers well look at the first name on there Dave Iker uh Dave will be
joining us we all look forward to having Dave there uh it'll be great to see you in person again
uh Fred espinac will be there Mr Eclipse uh David Levy will also be there and
there will be more announced on the website so we have amazing speakers coming in there will be field trips to
the Irene Pennington planetarium ligo uh this is going to be very limited ligo
will only allow one tour for this group and it will be limited so if you have
any interest in ligo as soon as you register for the uh conference go
immediately and register for ligo uh they're going to the Louisiana State University Physics and astronomy
department and the Highland Road Park Observatory and don't be surprised if there isn't some more thrown in there
so with that um I am going to say join us for Alcon
definitely but also join us for astronomical League live which will be
on April 28th and we're going to have Michael bakic I was so impressed with
his talk at Alcon last year and just listening to his views on the eclipse
for 2024 and he also mentioned the annular on 2023 uh I thought wow people
would love to hear this talk so Michael blockage will be joining us for Al live
April 28th at 7 pm EDT right here along
with Carol orge Scott Roberts David Levy uh we'll all be here and please join us
I guarantee you this will be an interesting talk about the 2024 eclipse
so Scott that wraps it up for me okay okay that sounds good I think that Maxie
was able to come back um so Maxie we're going to come back to you
yeah my Wi-Fi connection goes crazy so mine too
well continue to schedule or of course terryman was amazing awards that you're
going to to present and I'm glad to to uh I I'm I'm really glad that you are
making this to encourage to other people that come to astronomy and know what it
is and share it with everyone so I my from here I
about you so so our next guest is a our
kind of friend of the group here of the GSP uh David eicher the
editor-in-chief of the astronomic magazine so well David a I'm glad you're
back so it's all yours thank you very much Maxi it's nice to be
here with you um and I will see if I can share my
screen and see if I can share the right thing on my screen and see if I can start
a slideshow and I'm going to talk about uh another strange object and if you can
can you see a a merging uh pair of Quasar black holes yes
don't pay any attention to that that's not it
is completely out of your mind okay
entirely but this is tonight we have I'm sort of jumping around the northern sky and you know in five or ten years if you
know Scott lets me hang around we'll get down to the southern hemisphere at this rate but uh
I thought I would talk tonight about a very in a famous and Infamous object
that played a big part in astronomy and astrophysics uh Beyond its actual
importance if you will in the 1970s and 80s really in a big drama that went on
for many years so tonight we will talk about the
infamous redshift controversy that began in 1971 with a very famous astronomer a
Halton chip arp who was very famous before this point in time for his uh
atlas of peculiar galaxies which is still the definitive uh Atlas on on uh
peculiar and interacting galaxies um but he he really singled out and
focused for many years with his collaborators on a Galaxy Quasar pair in
Draco which I'll describe uh that essentially ruined his career among
other things so it's an interesting story it's a shame because he was a very nice guy Robert Reeves is here he's
going to talk about the Texas Star Party I think a little later and I can remember vividly in the early 1980s uh
chip art being at the Texas Star Party talking about galaxies and including this and so he said here we have a
Galaxy Quasar pair connected by a light bridge between the two objects that
overturned is the reliability of redshift as a distance indicator that
was a very bold statement because going back to the olden days the days of Edwin
Hubble and VM Slifer uh even redshift was deemed a very accurate uh indicator
of an object's distance so what we have here you might note this because it's pretty cool and even
without the drama that was associated with this object for many many years this is one if you have a moderate to
sort of large backyard scope this is a really easy place to see a quasar
because it's it's very close to the center of this galaxy here NGC 4319 in
Draco it's a face on Bard spiral it's about 77 million light years away it's
about 13th magnitude and fairly small but it is bright enough to observe in
amateur telescopes and certainly to photograph here is a hint to the
photographers is another really hot object that very few people photograph
got it did you hear that Maxie okay yeah yeah I'm searching it
so what we have very close to mgc 4319 that was made very famous by chip art
and others is a quasar called markarian 205 and ARP and his collaborators the
main one of whom after several years was a University of Alabama a professor of
astronomy called Jack's Olympic who's a very nice guy Jack is still around um he's an Emeritus Professor now we
lost a chip a few years ago um and they swore with the Imaging
techniques and the telescopes they have at the time and mind you ARP at this time for years was a staff member at
Palomar Mountain Observatory so they were photographing this galaxy Quasar pair with the uh five meter hail
telescope among other telescopes and there they were very convinced in a number of very important papers that
stirred up enormous controversy that they could detect a light bridge between
the Quasar physically connecting the Quasar and the Galaxy's arms which would
overturn redshift as a distance indicator that would have been big trouble so
just to jump ahead and cheat a little bit here now we know that the Quasar is about a billion light years away that's
not connected to NGC 4319 and it's a a little brighter than 15th magnitude the
Quasar it's of course essentially Stellar um and it's named it was the 205th
object in the uh catalog of high energy objects uh that was compiled by Benjamin
markarian Scott and Armenian famous Armenian astrophysicist so the Quasar we
now know just to ruin the story is 14 times more distant than the Galaxy
but this was a huge object of conjecture and argument for many years from 1971 up
until the the mid to late 1980s so beginning in 1971 ARP uh really argued
that this they were physically connected these objects and therefore redshifts and Radial velocities and other things
were totally unreliable and you guys don't understand how physics works and all this kind of fun
well in the end uh unfortunately because he was a very very nice guy and he did a
huge amount of great work with galaxies especially but in the end this effort that went on for 20 years nearly
essentially ruined ship Art's career and and he was he lost all of his funding he
was unable to publish papers in the United States in the journals and he was in essence chased out of the country and
he went over for his final years as an astronomer in sort of Exile if you will
at the Max Planck Institute in Germany so this is a reference to his first
inFamous Paper here if you want to look it up um a connection between the spiral
galaxy in 4319 and the quotas are markarian 205 this is from 1971 uh uh uh
apj letters uh and then there's a very famous uh that added at a critical time
in the early 1980s a lot of emphasis a lot of Firepower to the argument by Jack
celentic uh it's a confirmation of the Luminous bridge between the two which of
course turned out not to be the case for mapshe in 1983.
foreign who we lost in 2013. he he was just a
one of the most fun people to talk to in the world of astronomy great guy Jack celentic he is as an earlier picture of
Jack but he's still around kicking around and you can see at the time the image that they presented and the
quasars at upper right there and the edge of the Galaxy at lower left and you
can see you know what they imagined to be a sort of a tenuous light Bridge of
pixels and you can see that in terms of collecting pixels even compared Maxi to what you do now they were really on the
Outer Limits to the edge of reality there in terms of pixel counting and
interpreting this kind of stuff yeah this again I'm not a representative
of Ron stoyan or of Germany in any way but this is a great compact star Atlas
um and again you can see in in the center there 43-19 and markarian 205
marked and in the image that follows this you'll see a couple of other galaxies 4291 and 4386 in in the field
here and some Bright Stars sparsely distributed in Draco
this is sort of a decent approximation of what you would see in a large
backyard telescope of these objects the other two galaxies are on the perimeter
here 4319 is in the center there you can see it's a nice barred spiral and the
Quasar you know sorry this is how it came on the Skylight there was no green
ellipse involved there with the Galaxy believe it or not but the Quasar is the
star-like object just below the uh nucleus The Hub of the Galaxy there
within the green ellipse
here is after all of the hubbub and the resolution of this argument uh that went
on for so long this is an HST image of the pair here and you can imagine
between the Quasar and the Galaxy there you know some bit of pixelation there of
extremely faint pixels even with the Hubble Space Telescope um but it is not a physical connection
of course as was argued about for so long this is an enlargement here of the
Quasar and the edge of 4319 and and you can see what all the excitement was
about with some even with the Hubble Space Telescope a very small number of enhanced pixels there which really is
just gas involved with the galaxy in the foreground
there's an annotated version of uh you know showing kind of major features uh
if you will from the HST image that was taken in the early to mid 90s
and that's it I mean that is one of the most controversial objects in the sky
certainly is extra Galactic objects go so look up NGC 4319 and Draco you can
image it without too much uh trouble the kind of stuff Maxie you're doing now you
know with the pencil nebula this is brighter than that so so these are targets that you can really go after now
and if you have a you know 12 or 16 or 20 inch scope you can see this hair
really nicely visually as well so again this is our 50th anniversary
year of the magazine of astronomy magazine and we will be having a we're working on it now an August issue that's
a an oversized uh anniversary issue with all kinds of special fun features and I
will mention for the second time tonight if I may Michael bakch with whom I wrote
a recent book on a child's introduction to space exploration hoping to get more
kids excited about the universe and about the coming era of space
so Maxie and Scott that is all I have for tonight I really encourage you to go
out and take a look or image mgc 4319 and its attendant Quasar no joke
intended because that is really one of the incredibly outsized very very famous
objects in the sky for being an ordinary Bard spiral thing at Galaxy you know so
put that one on your list I would say yeah when I when I get get some day to
the north hemisphere I will try to capture it but here it's really low I
watch it right now in the skyport a lot and no it's impossible not good from
Argentina you know I've said many times Bart Bak used to say the the good
stuff's all in the southern hemisphere that may largely be true but then again there is a little bit of refinement yeah
I say that both Skies have the well they own you
know what it was a all they have the best you know you have m81 you have well
Andromeda galaxy really up of your head here I have only four hours
pointing to the north but you have very interesting objects that uh that I I I I
I like to picture it but also you have another constellations that when I I
hope when they go to the north and when I watch this the the star sky and see
the stars you know it would be below mine because no that there's no Southern
Cross or no way what is the acapella star what is the I don't know
um but another objects from here or the great magazine cloud or something like
that and of course the the perspective of where I've been it will change so now
that that will be great someday and we go Maxie will have to agree to exchange
and travel back and forth a little bit because for us Northern owners you know the magellanic clouds and the Karina
nebula and the dozens of bright clusters and nebulae that would be messier
objects if they were fired if they were visible from Paris yeah
it's green for us more than just to go down and see so so we'll do a little bit
of an exchange every once in a while and get to see it all I hope and of course when here is the winter you will have
the center of the core of the Milky Way above your head so that's really blowing
mind you will see with the pure darkness and detail of the clouds and stars it's
unbelievable absolutely being in the Atacama you know in Chile which is spent
the most time in the in the far southern hemisphere you know being used to Sagittarius being down here at 25
degrees elevation when it's overhead you put your chair
yeah back then and you'll see only watch it like that like a movie that's very
different than either in the Southern United States you know this for the Galaxy overhead that is a dream for us
yeah well thank you David for joining us tonight and well let's continue Scott
what do you think hey okay so we are going to we are going to bring on Robert
Reeves uh Robert is um uh some someone that's involved with
um uh deeply involved with the Texas Star Party it has been for a number of years uh he also happens to be
an expert at on on the moon he understands the moon and it's terrain
but and his his photography of the Moon you know I call him a solenographer okay
because he's truly a lunar expert okay um and I always respect those guys
because I can name a few creators but you know the guys that can look at a
crater and look at the crater lits and and tell you everything that's going on with these uh these features uh I think
they're really amazing so um Robert Let's uh let's have you come
on and uh thanks for joining us on the global star party and telling us what's going on with the Texas Star Party well
pleasure to be here uh you described me as a salinologist and uh
um it's all a matter of uh where your interest lies I mean uh I've I've been a
deep sky astrophotographer for years I mean I've written three books about astrophotography and uh right now a
majority of my Celestial photography is done with a Celestron 14 hyperstar but I
am in awe of the people who can rattle off these NGC numbers like they were
their child's names and know what these galaxies and these fear things are uh
that's uh a different realm for me uh the the Moon is my belly Wick of course
um it's my playground and I invite people to come out and play with me but um nonetheless we all have our little
niche and although I enjoyed deep sky astrophotography I do consider myself to
be more of a lunar expert and I enjoy spreading the word about the moon especially since Artemis will soon be
taking humans back to the Moon next month we will learn who the crew of
Artemis 2 who will loop around the Moon soon who they will be so it's going to
be a in our face real stuff going back to the moon but in the meantime we've
got to Texas Star Party um Texas Star Party I'm proud to say is
the second oldest National astronomy convention in the United States uh with
a demise a couple of years ago of the Riverside star party uh Riverside telescope makers conference
um that elevated Texas Star Party up to the oldest one after stellophane and of
course cellophane has been around since World War II so we're never going to catch up to them but nonetheless we are
proud that uh Texas Star Party was established in 1978
by Debbie Byrd who was then with the University of Texas you may recognize the name as the young lady who produced
the star date program early on and they started magazine the University of Texas
put out she's since then left UT and gone on and established her own
um Niche with the Earth and Skype webcast
podcast and so forth mediti created the Texas Star Party back in 1978 and it was
initially held at the Davis Mountain State Park and had the pleasure of attending the very first one
and that was quite an adventure there's about 200 people there and it went on
there at the state park for three years and it outgrew the state park and
um they've uh about Dave Iker sorry uh Dave
oh Lord no not Levy um Clark Dave Clark oh right
yeah okay gift get in gear here Dave Clark and um
I remembered the name when I was thinking about this earlier this is
embarrassing but he's still with the Texas Star Party but anyway Dave Clark and this other fellow from up in the
Dallas Fort Worth area whose name I will remember at the moment we go off the air
um established the Texas Star Party at the prude Ranch in Fort Davis Texas
uh right in 1982. and I had the pleasure of being there for that one too I've actually only missed two Texas Star
parties in all of its existence but um I've seen it grow I've seen it
become what it is I've seen it balloon up huge I've seen it shrink with
economics uh prevent people from traveling when covid shut it down I've
seen it revive and now it's returning to its former glory
for the past couple of years I've been the uh evening speaker coordinator I
also uh run the astrophotography contest there I do the group picture and lately
I've been trying to Shepherd vendors back to the Texas Star Party
but um oops we don't need my phone ringing here
uh trying to get uh vendors to return to the Texas Star Party but uh it's been a tough sled because of the economy and uh
um we're we're we're getting them back slowly but not at the pace that I had
hoped post covered but um I am very pleased that they are generous with
their door prize donations uh last year was the first year we had more door prizes than we had door prize tickets to
draw now that really caught me by surprise uh so uh I'm really proud of
the progress that we've made in some areas Dave eicher was mentioning uh we had
chip ARP is one of our keynote speakers one year we've actually had him twice
and uh I found out the hard way chip ARP is a very
um discriminating wine and aficionado and I made the mistake of offering him
white wine that I made myself and he's a red wine connoisseur and uh
he politely made it clear to me that he didn't want to have anything to do with with white wine but nonetheless he was a
very nice fellow and he was extremely well received by the Texas Star Party I think it really
heartened him to see a receptive audience who listened to his arguments
without condemning them and uh I think the Texas Star Party kind of brightened
his day by um by actually listening to him he made convincing arguments which
uh some have been proven wrong of course but we did appreciate the passion the
man had we appreciate the uh the fact that he drew interest to this field and
uh and and created this controversy so people would look deeper and solve these Mysteries so um we've had a long history
of outstanding guest speakers uh Bart Bak was one of our very first speakers
um we've had uh amazing astrophotographers like Jack Newton and
uh uh Bob Octor fesci uh who made his Mark in the uh the world at night uh
excellent photographer National Geographic nature photographer
um just just all kinds of across the spectrum of amazing speakers I'm very
proud that this year at the Texas Star Party we'll have Alan Stern as our Friday night Keno speaker talking about
New Horizons of course uh We've also got Scott Bolton the principal investigator of the Juno Mission which is still
active around Jupiter discussing the latest from Jupiter and of course we've
got these oncoming eclipses that are going to where where my moon is going to
blot out the Sun uh these are coming up so we've got Angela Speck with the University of
Texas uh very passionate uh Eclipse Outreach person is going to be speaking
about eclipses as well so um a very fine lineup of speakers this year
and of course the Texas Star Party is noted for um being literally one Hilltop Mountain
Top over from McDonald Observatory which is located in the heart of West Texas in
a the middle of a five-county area where uh lighting light pollution rules are
very strict we are protecting the observatory so the Texas Star Party
benefits from that we have very dark skies uh the prude Ranch can support
hundreds of people we've had as many in the 19 late 1990s
as almost 700 out there in more recent years it's settled down
closer into the 400s but nonetheless it's it's the only facility out in West
Texas that can accommodate this many people house them feed them uh the city
of Fort Davis is very welcoming we pretty much fill up every motel room
in the in the county the prude Ranch as well uh so um it's not just a
the Gathering of astronomers there in one spot it's kind of spread out around the county and uh it's an extraordinary
experience uh if if you've been a city dweller for many many years uh it's kind
of a culture shock to go out to West Texas and uh enjoy the wide open Skies
the the uh the amazing topography out there it's it's not just flat desert
it's it's a mountainous terrain it's a volcanic mountainous terrain but at the same time Fort Davis is
centered where there's abundant Springs so there's enormous amounts of wildlife
out there uh Fort Davis even though it's in the middle of wild west Texas is one
of the birding capitals of the world uh bird lovers as well as astronomers
gather there in droves hummingbirds like you wouldn't believe
more species of wild birds than you can count birding is is a much part of that area
as astronomy is um of course the the main attraction for us is the Dark
Skies the Texas Star Party is arranged on the prude Ranch so that we have three
massive observing Fields the lower field out closer to the road uh is where a lot
of RVs Park uh the Middle Field uh more or less in front of where all
the housing is um is popular with
kind of a specific group they gather there every year I mean it's a camaraderie of it all they know each
other they come back their friends uh the North Field the upper field we call it is basically a soccer field
and it ends up having probably 150 to
200 telescopes on it it's the densest most aggregate conglomeration of
telescopes I've ever seen in my world in the world and we we lay out a power grid
so that everybody has electricity of course we have to regulate how the electricity is used I mean you can't
have a refrigerator or an air conditioner up there uh but the power is
there to run a telescope uh so we we've got this amazing collection of hundreds
of astronomers from all over the United States that come together in one group and
congregate and and enjoy each other's company and tell their stories uh we have
afternoon talks where on the certain days of the week where uh
one time it'll be a master photography theme they have a family to be an observing theme a telescope making theme
whatever but um uh Talks by just the individuals that
attend and wish to speak about a certain topic and then in the evenings of course on enough uh Monday through Friday
Tuesday through Friday I mean we've got uh these keynote speakers and uh you
know when you get up into the Allen Stern category uh we we've got a pretty pretty heavy uh
uh speaker Rosser you're going to be hard-pressed to to get some better
speakers than what we we get at the Texas Star Party I'm I'm really proud of the uh of the folks that we can get and
who do travel enormous distances to uh tell us
their stories and uh explain their research so uh it's an amazing Gathering
of friends it's been going on since 1982. this will be the 41st year on the
ranch I guess and uh those who go go away with amazing
memories uh they uh it's an experience they remember for life and many come
back uh many come back again and again every year uh I understand if you live up in Vermont or way over in Washington
state it's a tough sled getting down there and you won't be there every year but there are people that we see year
after year after year and it's just like family so uh it's an amazing Congregation of
people like-minded people astronomers we all think alike we owe we
all understand each other it's an amazing camaraderie so I invite you if you have never been
to the Texas Star Party it's not too late jump in there so far we've got a little over 400 registered there is
still room for more so uh uh Texas Star Party let me look at my calendar is May 14th through 20 this
year so uh if you uh have ever wanted to come we are
welcoming you the star party initiated again last year after a several year
covet Hiatus it would offer that a hitch everything worked great and this year I
think we've lubricated the wheels and uh we'll we'll get it going even better so uh
if you have any groups have any questions about it I'd be happy to address that where can they
find the website uh texasstarparty.org Texas starparty.org
I'll put it in here there we go
uh so um but a lot of people chimed in uh
Robert about the Texas Star Party and uh you know what a great event it is it is
um I will tell you it's also my first big star party that I went to I went there in 1983 and uh really enjoyed it
it was just so dark and the skies can be actually
unbelievably still as well and and so David
huh and um sounds like David Levy is calling in
here okay okay all right David so I'll put
you on speakerphone here in a moment okay if you'll just hold on okay okay
so anyways uh uh we've had a couple of uh technical difficulties but uh David
Levy is going to join him for a couple of minutes by phone so okay
so hopefully my microphone is holding out I've I've also had a little bit of technical difficulties with my
microphone so um I don't know if those of you in the audience are hearing me okay but oh
you're you're doing good it's okay all right good good okay so um let's uh Robert thank you very much
I'm gonna bring David on for a couple of minutes uh and um uh and thanks for
giving us all that background information about Texas Star Party okay let's just put it this way if you don't
go to tsp uh you're really missing out that is absolutely true and I appreciate
you letting me speak I'll turn it over to David my dinner bell is ringing I'm
going to have to head off for dinner yeah yeah really quick Robert you've been didn't mention one thing
Omega Centauri oh absolutely yeah that's Texas Star Party and it's one of the
reasons I want to try and come out there are some of your southern hemisphere gyms Maxie that you can see from the
location of Texas absolutely Texas Star Party is uh doted for the uh for the
Omega Centauri cluster drifting across the southern Horizon early in the evening and uh indeed one of our awards
that we give to uh uh special astronomers is called the Omega Satori award because we do have excellent views
of that Target from the Texas Star Party nice even if you have a big telescope to
watch it I can't even imagine how even it's below a little below or above a
little of the Horizon you can still see though all that little shiny stars in
that field of view now oh yeah it's just amazing it's amazing
so thank you very much for uh letting me be on Scott it's been fun
all right thank you for coming Robert I'm ready to introduce David Levy he's joining us
by phone well okay uh our next speaker by phone
yes we can hear you David how are you yeah it's messy great thank you I'm
sorry I couldn't get in it wouldn't take any of the passwords I offered but here
I am
you're still here you're still here
1905. I called my eyes on the sparrow it's a religious poem and in 2014
I rewrote it and here's my version It's called my eye is on the sky
whatever I am tempted whenever clouds arise
when songs gave way to saying when hope within me dies
I drive closer to the sky from here it says me three my eye is on the sky and I
Know It watches me my eye is on the sky and I Know It watches me thank you and
back to you dear Scrappy okay thank you take care thank you David
okay thanks a lot take care bye-bye see you okay baby okay all right well that was good you
know that that's uh one of the things that uh um that amateur astronomers are known
for is their persistence uh even in the face of of difficulties
anyhow um Maxi uh up next is Stephen nedberg are you familiar with Stephen
uh I I think Hello Steven hello for coming no I think he's a an extra
Alliance Ambassador and I think is a an ex engineer from a GPL JPL I mean right
or so well it's a pleasure to to meet you
Stephen my name is Maxi from Argentina from the south so tonight is hey I'm
co-hosting a in this case with Scott this GSP so welcome and it's all yours
Stephen well thank you Maxi and nice to meet you and I want to say I'm an
astronomer oh right
uh look up the international Hallie watch amateur observation Network and
you might get acquainted with me that way looking back recently I realized I've
been doing astronomy in some form for well over 50 years and uh continue but
it's both an amateur and a professional and I'm back mostly amateur I have a copy of this International hollywatch
book from 19 83.
yeah I didn't even born that's okay you can't help it
okay well I'm I I'm guessing David isn't listening I actually have a quote from him in this
little presentation I put together for you um uh Scott asked me to talk about the era
of planetary protection and uh you may have been noticing that I
wasn't paying real strong attention to Robert while he was speaking because I
was involved with put doing the final polishing so I'm now ready and what I'm going to do is share my
screen with you and
see what I can do to make this all work together okay
this is good so far and I go to full screen
I hope there we go there you are so
good A little bit of my history I am NASA JPL retired I worked at JPL for
almost 38 years on [Music] um well ever Sun comets asteroids uh
Jupiter Saturn and uh well everything out to the edge of the universe if you
could count the space interferometry mission so I've been involved in astronomy a long
time at various levels and actually I have had more than a indirect
participation in um at least the the beginnings of
planetary protection as you'll see in a few minutes uh I'm Scott I'm going to try and stay
on my little time here so uh bear with me but I'm doing my best
so what I this is actually just a very short presentation one that I hope I can
actually grow and use some time but um when we talk about planetary protection first of all we want to know
is there a threat short answer yes how big is the threat there is
well it depends on how you look at it and I'll explain that what could happen
um a little or a lot and again I'll explain that and what can we do about it and I
will end up showing you an example if all goes well
so uh continuing on is there a threat
and the answer is just on February 23rd uh the moon took a hit
from something that was probably not much bigger than a desk and probably created roughly a 10 meter
uh diameter Crater where you can see the uh white dot right here this was a lunar
impact taken by and I see that I left off part of the
um caption that I would have included which is credit it was a Japanese astronomer associated with Museum who's
been doing this I think for a while and he managed to capture this this is just
one of many but I suspect this is about the brightest one we've ever seen I I that's my estimate is based on the
ones that I have seen people have been trying to do this for probably 20 years or more
um but the events are a few and far between just the same um it's it's a pretty fun and
interesting thing to do then going back just a month earlier uh asteroid 2023 bu
which is about the size of a box truck if that doesn't mean anything to you I'll say that it's a size of about four
piled up uh Cadillacs or something like that so A good sized you know four
vehicles worth of of material probably Rock
came by Earth and this is one of the closest short of colliding with Earth
this is one of the closest that we've ever seen come and go I suspect that this would have been visible if there
was enough notice to somebody down in southern Chile and would have actually been able to see
it in in the night sky apparently well hard to estimate here
but it could have even appeared going backwards there is going to be event like this in August no I think it's
spring April of 2029 visible from Europe and uh Northern Africa in the evening
sky with the uh the asteroid actually going retrograde in the sky and a naked
eye object um both of these are only potentially
dangerous objects uh the the one that's coming in 2029 was actually a
significant concern at that time um but
additional observations and especially some radar observations have said it's not going to impact us for for at least
two to you know several hundred years I'll put it so there is a threat uh we've had some
recent examples as these and there will be more um and this is the quote from David as you
know he is all besides being a poet an astronomer he was one of the co-discoverers of comet Shoemaker Levy
nine and David said that that the impact with
Jupiter shows us that the solar system is still under construction
that the planets are still being built in a certain sense by uh taking hits from
from the debris that it comes from the asteroid belt or from the Kuiper belt or
potentially even something Interstellar like [Music]
and so uh we have to recognize that there is a thread and then ask well how big is
the threat and I think in some ways it may have been first recognized that that you know
some something odd can happen back in 1972 when the Great daylight Fireball
you can see a picture of it up here I'll just circle it I hope you can see my
cursor my pointer um went actually was visible from Utah
all the way up into uh mid-northern Canada
um and it never touched the ground got in probably maybe 25 miles above the
surface but it didn't touch this is over the Grand Tetons and they're even um well six eight millimeter uh or super
eight millimeter uh films or a film of it uh it's pretty fuzzy I that's why I
decided not to use it this just looked a lot better and you can get the idea then
back in uh on the 6th of October of 2008
uh an object was observed 21 hours before it was gonna hit the earth and
sure enough it exploded over Sudan as anticipated
and nobody actually got any pictures of it but there are some pictures of from
security cameras of a railway station where you can see the flaring of the fireball uh when this came down at 246
UT on the 7th uh a few weeks later Peter jenniskins had a Expedition pulled
together with um scientists not just from from the US but from Sudan itself and they went out
and found fragments of it this thing exploded with about the uh
energy of one kiloton of TNT geez and and and this is what was left they may
have found a few more fragments but there wasn't much left uh it's still pretty hard for something to make it
through Earth's atmosphere but if it's bigger it's got a better chance
and I'll just remind you that uh and I got to see that I left off the date here
but it was February 13th of 2013 that the Chelsea Fireball
uh went through the atmosphere and also exploded
uh the explosion and I left off the pictures here
um caused about a thousand casualties mainly from flying glass because uh
either the sonic boom or the the explosion sound itself had enough over
pressure to for extra glass uh built windows in the city and so there were
quite a number no I do not believe there are any deaths from it but it gives you an idea this this
Fireball was was likened to be as bright as the sun and I can relate to that back
in 1960 this will give you an idea how long I've been at this uh I remember
being driven or driving with my father uh on Roland Avenue and at the waiting
at a stop sign at Hollenbeck Street close to where we lived when we were
looking to the west and we saw a fireball that was every bit as bright as the sun as bright as the Setting Sun at
that time so that can really happen um and uh the the big event up to the
really even to date is the tunguska tunguska event of 1908 June 30th
where hundreds of square miles of forest were flattened
by the explosion of an object there is still apparently quite a bit of debate
over that um it was first thought to be well just a meteoroid and we hit there hit the
ground except that nobody could ever find any fragments of it and that still
possibly true I was just seeing a headline as I Was preparing for this that maybe somebody has found some but I
don't know if that's true or not but in any case this thing hit with
um several times the explosive power of the nuclear explosion of over Hiroshima in 1945 and
that was about 20 kilotons um while I was at jpl's denik secondina
analyzed this and concluded that it was not in fact an asteroid but a comet because it
simply could not have made it to the Earth's surface just the overpressures would have destroyed it in flight
through the atmosphere but as I say there's still a lot of debate about it I
thought denik had made a pretty good case for that so it can cause a lot of damage and and
it's worse uh let's start with meteor crater Arizona or the canyon Diablo crater or
the Barringer Crater is it sometimes called barring or bearing being a
businessman from Philadelphia who was convinced that there was an iron meteorite buried right in the center of
that crater on the left and uh he was going to drill down and make a fortune
mining it well that didn't happen I had the I had really the pleasure and good
fortune to be able to be escorted by Gene Shoemaker who established that this was a
meteorite explosion crater uh and I I accompanied him on a on a day hiking
through the crater looking at at what was what happened there this is about
1200 meters across and we think okay well that's a big big hole in the ground but it was like 50 miles or 60 miles or
something like that from I'm sorry I should say that in kilometers 100 kilometers or so from
uh Flagstaff Arizona but as we were talking he pointed out that 50 000 years
ago when this thing actually was formed um the explosion itself probably caused
damage all the way to where Tucson presently is this was a major multi-megaton event
and then you look to the right there and the manicogan reservoir
is a late Triassic impact that is a hundred and
it's over a hundred kilometers in diameter in Canada preserved to this day 200 some
odd million years old and um that was certainly
a major event and I want to spend a little bit more time on this and just
mention uh what we saw as recently as 1994 causing well I don't know if I'd
call it damage to Jupiter but certainly there were changes that were visible for
over a year in its southern hemisphere where the the explosions occurred with
the with the comet Shoemaker Levy nine fragments hitting yet
and I'm focusing on G over here which um if you see in the in the group of
four you can see this Crescent structure I have to tell you I was uh looking at
this shortly after it after the impact of G and I got a moment and it really
was just a moment of good seeing through Rick Schaefer's 20-inch uh dobsonian
telescope and I saw that Crescent and the large dark spot for just a moment
um it was unbelievable most of the time it was just a black spot and that's the way they looked through most telescopes
but I just luck out with that moment of seeing at the time uh shortly thereafter
somebody uh actually astronomer from Lowell Observatory came out by transplanting this explosion structure
onto Earth and that's what you see here and it literally has wrapped around our
whole planet and that is a measure of what can happen
um on the right just because it was uh interesting I thought I'd show you what the Galileo spacecraft could see it had
uh it was looking at Jupiter from a different angle you can tell even just
how much of not so much with these but we had a much more full Jupiter than
what Galileo spacecraft was seeing uh you see a give us Jupiter and it was
actually getting direct views of the impact we have to understand better what was
happening because it was complex um but this is the results of that
impact at least before and then during through there so
um these things can have uh can affect whole planets and certainly parts of them and has it
have ever happened here well one answer that question might be illustrated by
this there are [Music] um well rocks they don't look like rocks
they look like obsidian that's got odd shapes um in various parts of the world as you
can see uh going by names like filipinites australites
and javaites in new chinaites for example and that's that large bluish
area over here that's called the australasian strewn field but some tweak
crater which we think probably originated what's now buried crater approximately here uh but some tweet
crater in the Ivory Coast I think it has a new name now um and these tektites are probably all
related there are techtites that have been found in
um in Texas and Georgia and microtechtites also
found in this area and it's believed maybe even one Martha's Vineyard Tech type
um and it may be a result of the Chesapeake Bay crater 90 kilometers in
diameter and the moldavites in moldovia
and uh possibly due to the Reese cater crater here or rice crater I
don't know the correct pronunciation uh in any case or that is due to their
due to the rise crater and they have found microtechtites in
the waters off the coast here or in I guess it's on land there
somewhere in France northern France in any case uh we do have events these are
the my the tektites themselves uh whatever size they happen to be are
called a strewn field because they are material that has been melted by the explosion
explosive impact and it's the explosion and spread around and of course last and
certainly not least um the conclusion you should have is run
if you can and um we want to ask what can we do about
it well first we have to find the threats we know that they could be both
asteroids and comets uh some that are known some that will be discovered and surprises that only come
in from the direction of the Sun and maybe we're not going to get her any early warning at all
well we have been surveying the sky we now think that we found uh about 90
percent of all the asteroids that are greater than I think the answer is like
three kilometers in size and so that's a very good starting point
we're also planning on launching satellites that will be able to look in
the not in the direction of the Sun but see something traversing the space between Earth and Sun coming our way so
that we can get some warning that way too so it seems that we may have in hand at
least if not completely yet uh ways to find them what do we do when we do
can we blow them up could we nudge it could we paint it could we slap it well blow it up not such a good idea and
I don't have good images of this but I'm going to lead you on a little mental uh
a godonkan experiment as Einstein would call it a thought experiment you know if you fire a rifle the bullet goes into
the Target and it's a single bullet and that would be an uncommon oncoming
Commodore asteroid well blow it up what would happen well the same thing that
happens with a shotgun firing scatter shot it scatters Earth would still be in
the range where it's possible that the all the material could still fall on
Earth just not in one place could we nudge it well yes
um if we could attach ion engines or chemical engines or something in fact I remember back from
the 1950s or 1960s where they actually built rocket engines to move uh satelliters an asteroid or something out
of the way I'd love to find where that was but I don't remember the title of the film but uh that is that is a possibility and
and possibly do it solar powered of course if you're going to use the sun why don't we just paint it
and I know that sounds silly and quite how to do it
um is not entirely clear because we have to be covering a large well not more than half probably of the
asteroid and it wouldn't probably work with a comet but the idea is that if you
paint one side so it reflects sunlight better that will as the spinning asteroid keeps
presenting itself to the Sun that section the sunlight literally bounces
off it becomes a solar sail and will nudge the the asteroid that way with no use of
of any propellant as such except reflecting sunlight we know that solar
sails work we have seen asteroids themselves change their orbits naturally
because they have lighter and darker areas simply due to the pressure of
sunlight so that's one and the last option is to
slap it and that's something that was just demonstrated less than a year ago
and I will show you uh one example of of what that looks like but the other thing
that you need to keep in mind is there's very little that we can do if there isn't much time so finding out where
these things are as much as we can discovering things at Great distances so we have time to use some technique to
try and move it is going to be very important and time means really on the
order of years because it's going to take that long for
the orbit to change enough for a miss a near Miss is great that's what we want
we want it to be like horseshoes without bringing the putting the Horseshoe on the on the post
so um what I'm going to show you is Success the success I'm going to have to change
my screen here and ask you to bear with me for a moment while I find what I'm
looking for and then I'm going to enlarge this
and do a restart there we go
uh last year the darts spacecraft sorry
and we're still seeing the presentation because you are sharing that a window oh
okay let me thank you no no problem let's see what I can do here
okay sorry move that to the side and
get back try and get back to where I'm supposed to be
ah here we are okay I'm gonna uh
new share got it okay I hope
no no unfortunately we just see your oh there
we go there you go here we go okay here we go so let's try this again this is
what happened when the dart spacecraft hit dimorphos
now what was what was done here you don't see it is that dimorphos is actually a small companion a satellite
of another larger uh asteroid they're both in solar orbit they are no threat
to Earth at any time and uh but the nice thing was
um dimorphos was orbiting at a sufficient rate that we would be able to
with a slap on it by the dart spacecraft actually see if it changed the orbit
and the expectation that there wasn't the orbit of the asteroid would be changed by about 20 minutes in in
orbital time just going around the the host asteroid turned out it was closer
to 30 minutes so the experiment worked and something
like that could actually be done with enough time to actually move the
asteroid so it will not impact Earth and save us the reason I I didn't give you a
specific number and this is my last thought for you and you can join me with
ask me questions but um what I did what it turns out the rule of
thumb is that the crater the crater created by an asteroid or comet impact
will be about between 10 and 20 times the diameter of the impacting body
itself so if a 10 mile asteroid hits Earth as it did at chiksulube in 66
million years ago it will create a crater that's 10 100 to
200 miles and I'm sorry I have to do that 150 to 300 kilometers across
but the explosion May do much much more than that because in fact we find uh
iridium which on on the surface of the Earth is very
rare in layers that are scattered as far from chiksulub in the Yucatan Peninsula
as New Zealand and Italy and up many other places in the world as a result of
the impact that killed off the dinosaurs so this is why we want to be doing this
and this shows at least one way that looks like it is successful will be
successful in protecting us given time for that change in orbit to work
so I hope I haven't exceeded my time too much and uh that you enjoyed this
very much very amazing Stephen thank you for sharing it
you're welcome foreign
okay all right great uh Steve thank you again
um you're welcome back to uh Maxie and uh Maxie at this point we'll take a 10
minute break but we are giving that break over to uh Daniel Barth who wants
to talk about the uh his special project the aristosthenes in my pronunciation
yes project
hi Daniel how are you hey Maxie how are you bud no it's going great here and I'm
hoping I'm posting a link for everybody in the chat right now I just wanted to remind everybody because the time is
finally here the eratosthenes project and here's the simplest form of a little Gadget all you need is a stick you can
measure how high it is you want to see how long the shadow is when it points exactly North
uh that means you're doing it local noon you tell us your time and your date and
you ask your phone yes Siri please give me my latitude and longitude where I'm at and you go to the link we just gave
you there post your results um we're we're hoping for a big response
we're hoping for a big database uh I'm I'm hoping that the global Star Party audience can get us a thousand data
points uh that's my hope I'd be I'd be excited for the 100 I'd be over the over the moon with it with a thousands but I
know we have the audience to do that and so sometime this week make your little Gadget this is just a couple of uh
cardboard triangles glued up in the corner there with some hot glue and a pencil uh very basic you
could make this out of a feature delivery box or a pizza cardboard from an Amazon box and uh if you have it
ready you go out you line it up with your compass on your phone and when your Shadow crosses the line you measure it
you send us your data you're great you're golden and anytime this week works so I'm not going to take a bunch of time
but uh and I've got I've got to get some other work done and I've got early classes tomorrow so I'm going to be a
short visit for me tonight and thank you everybody and appreciation to all the global star party people who Daniel uh
voice support for this because I ask a question please yes sir Stephen
yeah um are you concerned with uh magnetic north being different from from geographic
North actually uh We've tested this because
the sun is at its Zenith Point its highest point when it's at local solar
noon a couple of minutes before or after or if you were magnetic north uh and
geographical North compasses off by three to four five degrees it doesn't change the solar angle very much at all
uh so the assist the experiment is very robust in terms of
minor errors don't affect the outcome very much and we felt confident looking
at it that this would be something anybody could build we showed people how to do it on here with the the tripod and
and a stick to hang and so your stick becomes your uh your pendulum Bob so
it's perfectly vertical this is another the three triangles get together and make a nice critical surface
um this is a student came up with this I did not my partner Dr server do not win
we look at this Museum this is a great idea thank you we'll share with others um well it is it's very very nice we
want we want uh we want to get people reconnected with
the uh with the power and the Majesty of this ancient science uh which was done
basically you're talking ruler protractors sort of thing um no calculators all the measurements
were very straightforward Eric costany's of course the librarian at the Library of Alexandria so he had access to the
very best maps of the Nile and that's how he got his north south distance uh
and he of course used the summer solstice because in uh um what's now as one uh they're on the
Equator so no Shadow at noon on the solstice and so everybody the solstice
is well known so even with you gotta walk there basically or take a barge to get communication from City to
City you could set it up and have people in place and take data he's had only two data points to compare with each other
and he came within two and a half percent if we have a hundred data points
comparing them each to the other it's a combinatoric uh sort of thing we get a very expanded data set we get uh many
thousands of measurements for the Earth's circumference and we're hoping that errors will
uh the signal to noise ratio will be good that the errors will tend to zero out
with a large aggregate data set and we did some test runs
um just between a couple of points the other investigator and myself we were
getting within half a percent they did a casual measurement at
I think it was somewhere in Pittsburgh and then in uh in uh at Purdue and they
came up with an error of uh like half a percent and it was just a casual I'm
using my phone I'm lining up with North I'm measuring the Shadow and measuring with a ruler and
you know GPS data points off our phones and the
we're hoping for a very great result we're going to have the whole data set available we'll have the small data set
here's 10 data points for you to play with and compare to your own measurement which you took and recorded and we're
going to have the big data set which is here's everything we've collected and uh we're going to share our results with
everyone and uh we'll have the data set will be made public so people can play
on their own the other interesting thing Stephen is that um
eratosin is measured the circumference of the earth but if you think of a tomato can you can have a circumference
but it's not a sphere when we spread many uh hopefully hundreds of data
points around the earth and they're all giving you the same measurement it proves geometrically you must be
residing upon a spherical body and obviously there will be a plus or minus
error with that and I'm sure uh the modern uh geoscientists and the good
Folks at Nasa and Esa have it down to a nicety but to crowdsource it and
actually say I discovered this for myself to say I've learned something from a book from Google is is great but
to say this is mine I discovered it uh and I learned what did you learn at school today we measured the Earth at
school today uh and we worked with people around the globe and we we did this and it's it's a wonderful thing so
I'm hoping the GSP audience will will jump in by droves the link is there for
you in the chat my friends and anytime this week it's the 12th through the 18th
so uh take your Gadget out and uh I'm taking my little pizza box creation to
work with me tomorrow uh because I should be free around noon and I was teaching today so I couldn't go out
excuse me kids they need to measure the sun uh so uh tomorrow I have a good chance
to do that so it'll be fun maybe I'll bring some of my students with me and take a picture and it'll be it'll be
exciting so anyway uh Scott thank you as always for your support for my crazy
ideas uh and uh to my David setterberg and
Purdue uh you know he's uh he's been a big driver for this also but uh uh and
he said how many people do you think we could get I said I know a guy
you know the old song says I Got Friends in Low Places I know a guy so uh you're
my guy and I'm Global star party uh you're my you're my audience so you're my party so go measure the sun Force
this week guys and I'm gonna log off and wish you all a good evening take care Daniel okay good night
everybody good night okay I think I think we will just take
just take break and uh we'll be right back
to another installment of inside the dart Mission I'm like Buckley from APL
Communications and we are at the planetary impact Lab at the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics laboratory in
Laurel Maryland and I'm with APL planetary scientist Angela stickle welcome
and uh you know first let's even just start right away with what's your role on the dart mission I am the impact
modeling working group lead for Dart so I lead up all of the simulation of the actual impact to try to understand what
will happen after we hit demorphos Okay so we're talking about impacts talking about impact is there a better place to
talk about impacts than in the planetary impact lab tell us what happens here so
in this lab we have a couple of different things we study impact processes around the entire solar system
so we have a vertical gun range where we can test impacts into different types of
targets so we can use Sands or ices or different types of rocks to mimic
planets and asteroids and try to understand what happens when an asteroid
or something like Dart hits them to understand the cratering process sorry Jack to catapult so it's the
second main part of our lab and it is designed to mimic uh all of the debris
that gets thrown up in an impact crater as it travels away from the crater and hits the surface so we have a catapult
here and you can load materials of sand or we
like to use aquarium gravel actually the bright colors make it easy to track on
to this you pull it back and then you throw it so we're literally throwing dirt across the room to see how it moves
through the air and to see how it interacts on the surface so why is that so important I mean why do we need to
know that information so impacts happen all over the solar system and they happen all the time they're sort of the most prevalent
process that we see on planetary bodies and they happen really really fast it's not something that you can just walk
around and see and so it's hard to understand the physics of what goes on and so you need to have Laboratories
like this with specialized cameras and specialized equipment so you can actually understand the physics of what
happens to understand the geology that we see but also to predict things now we see things in movies a lot of time
anything say it happens too fast right in movies it's all slow right we're watching these big things come flying in
and it hits this big impact but you're talking about impacts of all different sizes maybe not just larger ones but
even smaller ones tiny ones that you seem to make sure what happens on the surface when something hits yeah so small things like pieces of dust or
small like pieces of paint from spacecraft or something like that cannot can cause damage that can cause impact
craters if they hit like the space station or they hit a satellite and create creators just like we see on
planets with the big stuff so it's important to understand this sort of at all sizes why is modeling and simulation
then so important for the dart Mission so for a couple of reasons so Dart is the first planetary defense Mission
that's ever been flown and it's really a test right it's right in the name double asteroid redirection test we don't
actually know for sure exactly what's going to happen because we've never done it before and so modeling gives us sort
of the best picture of what to expect it lets us design the mission in a way so
that we can be successful so we did a lot of simulation early on to understand kind of what size the spacecraft might
you need or what you know what velocities might you need to hit at we also don't know a lot about dimorphos
right every time we go to a new asteroid it's different than all of the other asteroids that we've been to and so
um depending on what dimorphous looks like the results of Dart could be different and so modeling lets us see kind of all
of those different options so you have a better sense of what to expect and also then to back out
what happened afterwards it tells us you know if we see X and the model tells us
in order to get X you had to have a b and c happen it lets us know what happened when we can't be there in
person to watch it so it sounds like we're trying to learn a few things in the dark mission I mean it's not just you know what happens with the
spacecraft when it hits an asteroid but even the properties of an asteroid too it sounds like there's a couple of things we're trying to learn from this absolutely so Dart obviously its primary
purpose is to teach us about planetary defense and the effectiveness of this technique of called the kinetic impactor
and so daughter is going to teach us a lot about that we think we know what's going to happen but my favorite part of
experiments is you know when you think you know what's going to happen and then it doesn't happen exactly that way you
learn something but yeah it's also going to teach us about the asteroid so depending on what dimorphosis is made of
depending on if we see lots of Boulders or if it's very fine-grained like sand
or maybe it's just one big boulder in space all of those things will cause something different they'll cause a
different crater to form they'll cause a different ejecta curtain that we can see with leacha cubed in so it can teach us
a lot about what it's made of after the fact I mean the large focus of Dart
obviously is the impact yes everyone we're going to crash a spacecraft into an asteroid but you've mentioned a couple of other things here too so I
mean what do you think is the most interesting thing about the dart mission I mean the impact is I think so I'm an
impact nerd so the impact is definitely one of my I think it's gonna be really interesting but my favorite like I said my favorite part about any experiment is
being wrong so I think the most interesting thing is going to be when all of my models turn
out to be wrong like I'm actually really excited about that because I think that is when you learn the most yeah right
you think I know what's going to happen I know all of these things and then something totally new happens
to be fair I think we're gonna have we're going to create a Creator we're going to change the period of dimorphous I think all of that is going to happen but I think
maybe the amount or what we learn about the material properties that we had thought of ahead of time is not going to
be true yeah I mean right who would want to think too like prove me wrong right but that's the essence of science too I mean
be able to actually try this which made me think about what's the most important aspect what's so important about
missions like Dart and planetary defense to do these so really I think for me it's the scale right we have this lab
it's awesome we can do impact experiments I can simulate them with my models but those are all really small
scale things right we um when we fire projectiles in our gun range they're like a quarter of an inch
they're tiny right asteroids are big they're hundreds of meters they're kilometers and so being able to actually
get that data point that says yes you can go from your experiments in your lab up to reality is really really important
you can only get that by doing these sort of planetary scale space missions
right had a Subway to get it off the screen off paper out of the lab and into the Real Environment to actually see it
happen yeah okay so for an impact nerd right and from the science aspect of
this what's the most interesting thing about Darter about the fact that you're going to have this up close involvement
with an asteroid um so I think it's going to be what it teaches us about the cratering process
on asteroids because asteroids are kind of weird um they you know what we learned when we
took samples at Banu and ryuku is like the surfaces they're not what we thought they were you've got these Boulders you
have these spots that are just kind of Sandy they're really really weak so like you know
if you were to walk on them you might think you know instead of just it's really strange and so I think just
understanding how that changes the impact process is really important because that that then teaches us later
on if heaven forbid an asteroid were actually coming towards the Earth you know it tells us how to better protect
ourselves plus it's just cool science I'm even looking at the pictures behind us here and these are all different asteroids that that we have visited with
spacecraft and that got different each one of them is they're all very different stuff so even to get this one
instance of how one works is incredibly valuable oh yeah um and then and as you say they're all
different and every time we go to a different asteroid we learn something new and then this would be another data
point this is going to be one of the smallest ones we've ever visited up close we're going to have these amazing pictures as Dart comes in of the surface
and so that'll be just brand new things that we've never seen before we've covered a lot here too but is there
anything I didn't ask or is it just something you want to add yeah I mean I just I guess to reiterate
you know it's so important to do these tests um at at scale right it's we've only
done this a couple of times we've only had a couple of other space missions that purposefully impacted things we had
Deep Impact we've had L cross and we learned so much from them and just having these tests at the real scale
that teach us the real physics is so important for science but also for future planetary defense so Dart is so
exciting because it's going to give us that data point that we can point to if we need it in the future to extrapolate
to other potentially hazardous objects or other asteroids when we're you know
working to protect Humanity from space and we're all going to be watching that too as those I keep coming in too
so well hey thank you and thank you for joining us again I'm Mike Buckley and Angela stickel and go dark
well uh you know as we know Dart was a very successful Mission and uh you know
and a big thanks to Steve edberg again for giving us some of the background of
what uh asteroids uh can possibly do but uh also uh you know I feel good that
we've got a great atmosphere around us to protect us from so much of uh spaces
um uh you know otherwise very damaging projectiles so uh let's go to uh all the
way to Nepal uh to meet with diti Gautam deepti has been on global Star Party
many times it's been a little while since she's been on last time but I think one of the really cool things
about DT is that she uh gets presented with uh our our theme and she thinks
about it and not only will create you know a presentation about it but she
started to create poetry about you know these things and so I
love it that she's uh um so creative in that way and uh you
know I know that to this day she is still doing a lot of astronomy Outreach which is extremely important and um uh
so DT thank you so much for coming on to Global Star Party come out
bless God and Hell of rewarding and today I'm going to talk about the based on the theme that is attraction so
attraction is a fundamental Concept in astronomy that describe the way celestial object interact with each
other through the force of gravity gravity is the force that holds the planet in orbit around the sun because
the moon to orbit around the Earth and whole stars together in galaxies and one
of the most important law in astronomy that explains attraction is a Newton law of universal gravitations and this law
said that every object in the universe is attracted to every other object with a force that is directly proportional to
the product of their masses and inverse the proportional to the square of the distance between them in the other words
and the greatest the mass of an object and closer to is it is to another object
the stronger the gravitational force between them the concept of Attraction is uh
particularly important in the history of planetary emotions and according to Kepler's love planetary motions planets
move in elliptical orbit around the sun with the Sun at one of the hooky of the
ellipse the gravitational attraction between the planet and the Sun cause the planet to continuously accelerate it
toward other sums and causing it move we need elliptical orbit and attraction
also play a crucial role in the evolution of galaxies the gravity smells
attractions between Star Gas and those in a galaxy cause them to Clump together
forming cluster and eventually entire galaxies over time Galaxy can merge with
each other due to gravitational attraction leading to the formation of larger in massive galaxies in additional
to Newton's law of universal gravitations there are other important concepts related to attraction astronomy
for example the escape Velocity in the minimum speed and object need to escape
the gravitational pull of celestial body the tidal force is differential
gravitational force exerted by a Celestial body on another objects such as title Force of the moon on the earth
portions and if Jason is a fundamental Concept in astronomy that describe the Hoist
celestial object uh interact with each other through the force of gravity and it plays a a crucial role in planetary
uh motions classiformation and many other astronomical phenomena and this uh
this is the things I uh collected some about the attraction in astronomy and
talk about the theme and here's the search poem uh in the same team
uh in the English expanse of space attraction guides the celestial race
Gravity the force that ship it all from planet orbiting to Galaxy sort of from
the smallest particles to the largest star attraction is present no no matter how far it's the force that brings the
cosmos to life a custom reminder of Nature's power and strife we Marvel at
the beauty of the night sky attracted to the Wonder we can't deny attraction guide us like the star above or Cosmic
force that we can't have that love attraction in astronomy are powered to be heard of force that save the cosmic
mold a universe that filled with mystery and attraction that always in our company thank you
thank you and I want to talk about the astronomy we are doing in Nepal
um so I want to present something here
oh it's my screen Siri yes astronomy in Nepal so we are working in
project that is astronomy for Community empowerment
and on the guidance of iau international astronomy Union uh through the Nepal
Astronomical Society so here are some of the clips uh we uh this is our groups
working two years and now we are we teach them about the
planosphere how the planet sphere worked and what the plan spirit is and we teach
them about the Sun dies and how to handle the telescopes and the VR
equipment uh this is the pictures where we teach
them about the sundials and how the sun dial works and this is the end of the program so
we're extensely completed that is row space robotics Workshop where we bring
up the concept of space rover and uh how the Rover works and make them uh give
them the concept of what the express robotics is and uh help them to build
this special Robotics and I also assist them with the coding programming theme
and make it run uh to the help of the coding so this is the pictures uh where they
still are involved in this making special robotics that is a Rover giving their own name to the robotics
and this is the presentations and this is the uh the program that is
community empowerment which we have done in one of the community schools in nepals who they and they are supposed to
work in on another schools another Community Schools and these are we made
of we formed a club in that schools and the certain type of students from that
schools are supposed to go to another schools of Nepal and they are supposed
to teach others like uh past we pass our knowledge to them and they pass their
knowledge to others so these are some pictures and it's the
planet sphere um that okay so these are the sun claims uh we
conducted programs these are the things where I I have been
involved in the first day and I think I missed two three Global Star Party
and I was continually giving me time here so that's all
all right thank you so much thank you good to see you again on global Star
Party hello that's great okay all right so I I I
love Zoom I mean without Zoom this kind of these kinds of uh uh meetings where
we can broadcast it all over the world uh would just be simply almost impossible so thank you so much
okay all right so uh we're having a little we're gonna switch things up just
a little bit um and uh we've been we're Marcelo was supposed to come on but we're gonna
bring Caesar are you available to come on now yes I'm available yes you are available
awesome yes ready ready to go I'm ready to go all
right yes perfect okay can you hear me yeah nice background yeah you've got a
uh an astrophotograph that you did recently yes yes absolutely
fantastic this is what was my my working my work in San Juan using the exes 100
and the the upper ceramic Ed telescope
and work very well very well the month was excellent you didn't send me the
stacker image no no no because it's a work of of uh I will pay my son
yes I took I took the pictures between between Astro photographer or processors guys
I I you know I I need to say and say okay no no no if if of course I I don't
have any problem to give you all academies to you Maxi I don't like to
processing much you know yes yes
remember if you if you uh if you like I
give you I can give you 100 image 100 darks
if you would like to a Google Drive that's okay yes I can go I I why I can
make you an Asado a barbecue while you process the image no problems of course
yes yes every everyone is invited to everyone well sure yes I have something
to show you too yeah this is uh this is my passport card it came also with a
regular passport so I have made step one in trying to come enjoy
the Argentinian barbecue um
the next step is to save the pennies so I can just pick the flight so I we are
sure Adrian you know this now you have a an idea of argentinians are
watching the crazy the craziness in the last World Cup yeah the FIFA yeah that
is the FIFA World Cup yes I enjoy seeing the energy so I will absolutely love and
we're going to to bring into the Monumental yeah of course ah yes River
Plate yes yes
John John's gonna come with us too yeah
yes you're welcome too can you be honest I mean player in the audience that would
like to go yeah so we'll we'll have to work on the
actual date but it will be coming soon I suppose I'm sure all are invited right Cesar
Maxi yes absolutely so if you're listening to this anywhere in the world
and you have a passport you know our Constitution say it if you
literally it's going to be a big party another big party but if you if you
choose tomorrow live in Argentina you don't have any problem it's uh
the the thing that Maxi say is in our constitution is for anybody that have a
good reasons or good something like it's important
yeah we have for because uh our country of course is built by immigrates so our
Constitution say that everyone that wants to come to here can be an
Argentinian so uh of course you have military migratory things but nothing
everyone can come yes absolutely now is full of Russian
people coming here mothers yes coming here to have the a to Bear Charles yes
to Born their their sons
Argentinian and Russian yes by the case their case are we will
are going to be argentinians and they keep the something like
um something like a permanent resident the parents if you have the kids yes the
people say what's something of corruption from this uh
the the the the our our uh you know our police
file a group of very corrupted a group of between Russian and argentinians that
make something like by money and they don't need nothing to to came here and
and you know if if they don't have money they can go to the public hospitals or
if they have money they can go to the prepaid clinics it's and sometimes for
us it's a surprises say okay this is our love okay
well Steven edberg predicts if the asteroid is going to hit North America
then uh we will probably all in this coffee coming down a lot sooner by the
movies all time by the movies um sometimes it's the the disasters
movie you know are all in North America but it is only for for the movies maybe
yeah one time it was in Buenos Aires with this a movie of the big bugs that
came from I think it made meteorite that destroyed Buenos Aires and yes of course
um I I don't remember the name but we can we can die making barbecue no problem yeah that's it I can't think of
far worse ways to go yes yes Jones yes and look in at night
looking at the skies down there yes yesterday our our independence
declaration in this yes we need to to copy in in uh
in the chat of of uh of uh this is what
they say the preambles of the our constitution yes I mean you can see okay a more
down that is Argent is Argentina in general mostly Catholic nation and I
know we'll get to the Stars soon yes yes but we accept all cultures and we have I
know yeah maybe Muslims Christians
Catholic the second one is especially Buenos Aires but
um the the people here despite that the pope is Argentinian
they say okay it's okay today is not a a
a very religious people here maybe some
province in the north more but not you
know it's the same like yeah we need you to catch up Adrian yeah yeah
you guys have a beautiful country there in it and it's probably you have your city areas as well but I mean in
Argentina I went fly fishing with my father in Spring Creek like golden
fields of of grass tall grass it's a blue sky and the moon out in the daytime
and
is amazing it's and for the stars there is no better yes
absolutely absolutely well I have something to show you to everyone about
our star party Basha Grande start party and about this it's not in the Patagonia
it's in the in the province of Mendoza in the middle of sorry of our uh our
country um I I don't have totally ready my presentation because I need to put some
pictures more but no problem I can talk about and explain let me share the
let me share my my uh
screen let me okay
and where is that is an amazing shot you took by the
way the resolutions holding up well
your background ah yes thank you thank you
it's made with that with a um how do you say uh with axis 100
sponsored by expert scientific it's beautiful sponsored
it's real science sorry I am a dealer too yes
you know I love mine yes let me
share
that's the southern hemisphere part of global star party is always full of fun
interesting facts knowledge and we get to see a part of the sky like this picture Cesar is showing us that we
Northern dwellers do not see that's uh our view of the Milky Way cuts off about
two-thirds of the way up your picture it's something that that is amazing and
this is something something that uh thank you thank you Adrian to talk about
about this and it's something that I appreciate your rewards because you're a
great astrophotographer um especially Landscapes that are
incredible uh well it's a pleasure to to share with
with the global Safari audience our our next sister party Grande
2023 and it's a very very special occasion it will be this April 21 22 and
23 in Basha Grande San Rafael Mendoza I'll show you a map where is
uh while I talking I can't believe your telescope Sean
this is a this is a it's you are in the observatory or are you run in Israel
background me right now I'm at Mount Wilson it's a real Observatory
incredible well let's just say we've been there Scott's been there and and I've been there so I've been fused into
that picture permanently yes in Spanish I say okay that is okay I
I bring my wine yeah I go it is a background dang I was hoping
okay we need a place like this but I have a big telescope
yes I I know I know yes
wow excellent it's an amazing eagle with it
sorry yo Southern California okay okay we need to go to the north okay I
think no I took note in my trip next week to United States okay oh if you
come by the way we'll we can view through the 32 inch as well oh okay
yeah I have a really good the words is that the words is that they say okay we can
go uh we go Tony remember 20 um 2024 for the great eclipse of America
clips you can go everywhere that's coming yes next next year
um well uh here um is a presentation of our third party in this presentation I have uh some maps
to to show you where is uh um I'll try to to show you a lighter by
my Facebook maybe some pictures of the new or the new place but first of all
um I'll show you uh the maps okay well this is the the special occasion is
it a 50 years of the institution is is founded by my friend there's uh
the astronomer Jaime Garcia Jaime Garcia make a very a huge a huge uh work about
education astronomical education uh his uh he was a
um he's actually retired this year um he's
um is a professor by by many years in the Universidad
he was for many years president of the uh
honorary honorable honor arrival president of the
American variable star Observer American Association the abso
um he worked very very concerned his work is very concerned to the variable
stars um well they have so many many times we
have in in the global third party a great great people from from the app so
um they work a beautiful a very important work with the variable stars
and this occasion is very special for the sister party because it will be the
fifth the year's birthday of The Institute well here is in the center of our
country you can see that here is Buenos Aires um you can see here is a 987 kilometers
from Buenos Aires wow to San Rafael yes it's one day one yes one for for us it's
a normal thing Maxi notes that for everything that we can go to Vacation
area for example the the most uh the most near areas typical is this and you
have maybe three or four hundred kilometers here in the south in this part is was the the was the eclipse of
lahirutas and here in this area was the eclipse of San Juan in this area
here do you have do you have the conditioner Los Angeles here you can see
Santiago de Chile this is the limit between Argentina and Santiago and Chile
sorry and here is a dry area
more we call it a precordation mountain area Canyon areas where do you
have a dry weather more open areas without a lot of uh
polluted areas too um we we was we are sponsored sponsoring
sarako my the company where I work Optica saraco and we
are being sponsored it's performing sorry to base third party
uh from from the from the 2004.
um next uh next year we have we will
having uh three years only only accompanying uh party
um here do you have the you know how is the
the area here is is have all is this green area is a typical uh the typical
Farm area and here is a more dry more you know
they have Plantation of of course they have a great great graveyards
um of course all the industry here is of the wine red wine especially and it's
one of the best areas for for a for one yards for grape years sorry
well here is San Rafael the city
and here we have the place of of the Star Party the Santa
Clara Santa Clara de la duel I'll I'll write in in later in in the
chat of YouTube The Links of the of everyone the the phone of Cecilia
a lunatic that she's the woman that received the reservations or that or can
give you all information about the the hotel
um on how is the the Star Party and
um and of course the the how is the place
is the place where a week we go here is the light pollution
map of the area here's Buenos Aires here is Rosario
Santiago Mendoza but you can see that San Rafael is a small City and
as the the weather is really dry um I can show you
a more detail map we are in this area actually
and really we have a around maybe we
have a Bottle Tree you know it's very low
um we uh we have really a great a great
dark sky and we have this and we have
the the safe the safety of a big city near to the star party you know
um we are crazy but know so too much because we sometimes we need something
from the city you know about health about safety or it's a very safe area
but we prefer for any any emergency we a place where it's very very nice
very near to the to a center with a you know uh hospitals clean
all that you need or a mega reparation if in your car you know it's a complete
City small but very complete it's in the south of Mendoza is the most important
city well and I have for example this picture
as sorry it was not the time of of uh spur scientifically in this time we are
more for Celestron and 2000s it's a beautiful 2004 yes yes one of of the the
place this was in another hotel but I ran the hotel but uh this is one of the
first pictures with digital cameras in 2004 sorry that is a little little dark
but it's the part of of uh of the Star Party area normally we have around 100
people it's not so extensive like United States of 1 000 people but for the scale
of Argentina you know we have 100 people 120 we
um one time we we touched the 200 people
um but in Argentina is is a great number uh between 200 at 100 200 people with
their own telescope coming all together you know it's not easy to organize something
um in a place or in a country like Argentina but really we are happy to to have this
this kind of of uh of star parties uh this is the the biggest star party in
Argentina what object was that sorry John oh no
there was a open cluster or something I I wasn't familiar with your background it would look like a nice cluster up in
your picture yeah uh I I think that they are the only that one to the right
yes I think that that is I I can't I can't give you a position of
the Stars here I I have pictures of newest where you can have you can really
recognize yeah but I don't remember the time um the the right decision yes yes
here this is the same is is I think that this is from is to the north but in
southern yes this is me in in the 2004
this picture is this is not the place of the Star Party sometimes we close the
star party in another in another uh town that the name is
in the south of San Rafael and this is a center that collect all information about the
sensors is that appear I will share a high energy particles Observatory it's
um it's a big a big area uh that have a water very pure water
tanks with sensors um they collect a
when when a high energy particle touch uh for example uh molecule of hydrogen
uh produce something like a Cascade um they study in the in the each
in each tank of water they have a
um a signal of Light Of course that is really really very very low
it's very intensification of course and sometimes we close the the the the
talks the Congress in this Center is we move 200 kilometers to go to talk and
finish the third party in in Pierre our share Observatory Center
here is in in the this picture is in the
malarue this was in 2007
um was a really full of people this year we had
near completely near to 170 people this is part of the of the
participants and this is our typical typical dinner in
our star party in our party we eat dinner at as in Argentina at 9 00 PM I
know that for when once a time we received the people from the abso from
Boston and of course that we change a little the time to the egg
a PM to have something between you know you know
yes yes nine o'clock is a normal dinner time in Argentina yes nine o'clock is
okay yeah uh something that we we is typical in in
this area the walls the rock walls because it's inside the canyon now in
the new place in Santa Clara de la 12 it's a little more uh outside of the
canyon and we have more horizont um is something that is great we have
this Canyon but more to the more uh to the west but lower because we are in a
in a an area now a little more uh outside
sorry of the canyon in maybe 2010 or 2011. it's well
Gabrielle it's got homologous is physics and this
um him he's a the Jaime Garcia song Federico Garcia
actually Federico is Dr astronomer too um is something that the history in this
third party the kids that now are uh you know are a doctor of Sir a doctor
astronomers is amazing it's something that that for us I remember the students
Federico and his friends uh very you know people very happy
students of of astronomy in the second degree and now they are doctorate and
they bring us a lot of uh very beautiful talks about astronomy all all Talkers in
in astronomy are professionals the
amateurs sometimes maybe me talk about something about Optics or type of of a
you know of observation but we are proud to bite a professional astronomers or
model sheets called monologists sorry um to to to talk in Our Star Party
here for for John I think that this is M M7 yes this is a M7 I have much better
pictures but these are they are for example for 2009 and the cameras change
a lot and the quality yes but I remember we started to to take pictures of the
people their telescopes um for us I hear yes I remember that I I
saw that this is M7 man that's an amazing Sky yes yes I it's
bro um this here is a Jaime Garcia
um here Eric Gonzalez uh my friend all are my friends of
course galparin Diego galperin they are such people that they are
incredible um they make a very very he's well he's a Tremor too he's the the guy that
worked with the astrograph actually of the Cisco Observatory
here in I don't know maybe 10 years ago Jaime Garcia make talking about
something about um explaining about variable Stars
here you know the time of of uh assembly the equipment for the night
more pictures of maybe 10 years ago a little of of
clouds yes yeah yes yes
and I don't have I have a lot of pictures of the new ones but but uh
um it's okay sorry do you use the A7 a Sony
A7 sorry or you're you're using um you're not using like a standard camera
you're using like specialized like zwo or
in this picture zone or or no normally I use my my reflex camera the the oh the
whole one for example for this picture I use a DSLR yes I use it by reflex camera
yes I removed many years ago because my camera is yes filter
um and uh it's crazy because I am a dealer of a cwvo cameras I never keep
one for me yes yeah this is the the bad lucky of the of the dealer of yeah
yes yes or or sometimes I many many times I I talked with Scott about they
say okay I need to keep an 80 millimeter for me as a guest that's right I yes and
I have a a kind of people that sometimes came to the store and say oh please
please do you have only one sometimes I keep my the accurate yes the gear for me
and my I need to to have this and move to my home and never return to the store
to put in the in the showroom sometimes you say okay I have amount I I can put a
tooth that I have in my house okay I bring here the two well the the worst
part is that that when I say when you start to say oh I love my telescope okay
somebody came to the store and say okay I need this can you can you sell me please please and it's you know uh
um I have a friendship with many many of my my customers
um it's it's funny because I know that the same the the guy is suffering like a
kid talking from a toy and my my heart is is
you know it's very soft I say okay keep it oh don't tell me anymore okay bye and I
said bye bye my favorite telescope and I know I don't know why that sometimes the
people say ah you are using this uh okay can you can you sell me
okay but it's not gonna sell me because they love something and put the you know
the eyes like like a a kitty you know and it's impossible yes
yes with a mix of friendship a mix of of
a cure there there you know they hurt their feelings
yes it's a psychological support for this we call that leverage they're leveraging you
um yes yes um so and you know and when you when you see so happy people are because I I have
two two faces in my in my in my business I am ophthalmologist Optics I make
contact lenses I am optometrist in the idea is that I work like optometrist
United States and this is different between in the same store I have two
faces where I can go to to to talk about you know visual healthy and when I
change to to talk about to sell a telescope a gear or astronomy camera
it's like uh the people it's it's totally how do you say the word is
they are excited they are happy like
like a toy uh a kid in a in a toy store
yes it's the same when you when you you don't have
excitement or happiness to to choose lenses no but if you are going to choose
your telescope here it's one year for me every year I gotta
get a new one and a bigger one and a better one yes and I have a confident
contract of comfortability if I know the wife of the of this guy so no what's
that you know no no no no they don't they change me equipment yes you're what
your husband never never spend money here I changed it
so you not only sell and uh discuss this wonderful equipment you save marriages
in the process for those that would want to buy the big telescopes and the rent
is due that is I think that's admirable I don't know what anyone else
yeah I think that's very admirable quality Cesar yeah thank you
it's something that that I I really I think that talking about about the
happiness to to have a new here
a ceramical year or it's something that really I
um really I enjoy to enjoy um
the with the customer because I can see their face of Happiness maybe a camera
maybe a little a little eyepiece notice only a big telescope it's in the in the
scale of of each people you know
um well this is all okay thank you hi thank you Scott for inviting me every
time every time every time okay how many years more than two more than two that's
right yes 115 that's right and next Tuesday will be
our 1 16th yeah yeah incredible you have been a great representative of your
country and
these people down on global Star Party are really some of the great astronomy
Outreach ambassadors of the world that's for sure and another great one uh is um
up in Brazil just a little north of UCS are and uh that is Marcelo Souza Marcelo
uh is getting ready for his next big event
um and um yeah thumbs up about every April so but uh Marcelo thank you for
coming on to Global star party I I know that you rushed in and and uh you know
so thank you for the invitations classes today uh at night then I was
coming from my class I finished 10 pm today I finished here earlier then was
easy to meet you to join that's great thank you for the invitation it's a great pleasure to be
here thank you and yeah I will share some images I'm not professional in this
but I'm trying to to use my smartphone let's take pictures we are working with
students here to use this Smartphone to take pictures then now we have it it's much fun that I'm
not so expensive and it allow us to take pictures like it is with a lot of
flights near here here you see Venus in Egypt right this picture is taken in my
University right this is the campus of my University and the Israel is modern one week
this one let me see if I can change here because my computer house has problems I
don't know if can hear me you can hear me we can hear you there is
a bit of uh like noise there's some rumble some rumble I'm waiting here
because my computer something happened here it's frozen yeah but I would I will
be talking until the the computer allowed me to do ah okay now I can see my mouse
but I can see nothing here to help me and today I took pictures out
of the sky and let me Shout again where is my
teammates you can see my screen
yes it's coming up and I'll try again there you are oh yeah I'm back if my
computer allowed I will show the picture okay I'm back here
and here why is he amazing geez oh something is happening here
[Music] now what is happening that is different from the llama
uh something crazy happening here but I'm sorry I will stop again I close the audience
that I have yeah just go out and come back in yeah I will close the audio Windows the passport for Global star
party is fail is sharing screen it's our
our passport yes that's right no we we will make it more positive if the
password is technical difficulties [Music]
difficulty then you really don't have a uh a badge of honor here
that is true breathing I think that's enough
one more here and I think that's real work I hopes
and that's Missy because I I use my computers few minutes ago my class yeah
we've seen many of your presentations so I don't know what is attacking your
computer this time but it does not want to let go we have had a lot of solar activity that
could be yeah I I will show this I'm trying to show this it's probably what
it is I don't know if it's a cosmic activity gloverstar party
yeah let me see now let me see here there we go
you have fixed the Gremlins have stopped playing with your computer I hope I hope
everything is working I hope so and here is let me hit that in here in my
University and here was this weekend Nia is a river here keep that Crossing
Horizon you can see Venus here yeah I see it nice beautiful here is Venus I
also oh yeah you have the the three here and the river I tried to do something
with my smartphone then we are working here to take a picture of this match from here
yeah he's a Southern Cross in my University you have this kind of statue
here and there is in the vertical up to the the starter here and you can see
here the Southern Cross and he also in the bed from Centaurus here
now is the moment that's here we see the southern crossing the original proposition in the beginning of the
night well it is very beautiful to see this
talking in my University here in Southern Cross here we feel often better
and this is what I would like to show I don't know if you have Jesus already see
we have a big explosion in The Far Side of the South the sun was a very big
expose nobody knows what happened but if it was the interaction of the earth probably
will you have problems what is happening is it so big this explosion that see
even it is in The Far Side of the Sun we received part of the coronal mass
ejection here in India [Music]
15 tomorrow I I I'll show here the explosion you try
as much possible to me to show in his screen but I I have here the home
page are here other explosion
something big they say that absolutely unexpected
what happens and nobody knows but we are lucky because it's not
interested it's happening we pass either of the sun then futurizing our
directions or probably will have problems mainly with the satellites
big problems if your eyes in Direction you see here the velocity of the the
particles faster than 3 000 kilometers per second
very fast well we don't know what will happen here
and let me show something more
and the things are changing very quickly this in February 7 is up there they
discovered two new moves 92
now moves but today we have three more three more
yes now the Jupiter has 95 he moves wow
then it's happening very quickly you know where you can see very small objects
then we have another another number for the moons of the solar system now this
is the numbers I have a 95 and Saturn until you continue with H3
[Music]
that has five moves that's something that is amazing
in one of the moves is almost the half size of the planets like that's current
in Portuguese correct pronunciation in English but in
Portuguese they call Carolines the biggest move then things are changing very quickly
very quickly and I would like to show these images because I was talking about
the hint today in my classroom this for me is an example
for everybody man I don't know I think that everybody knows who I am I'm
talking about yeah he was a a movie skin man I think
that is correct way to say in English I'm really skinny and in the beginning
of the 20th century in Los Angeles this is
we're very young she left his seat and he moved to Los
Angeles and he left the school he was not started in the school and he has a
opportunity to build the mountain use Observatory
and the in the period That's highest building is helping to build with as I'm
really skinny he fell in love with this that's the same
English she fell in love with uh the dot of an engineer
and Humanity with her and he was
during five years or less and it was difficult for him to
work in a farm to give you a good conditions for her his family and the
the father of the his wife knew that you have an opportunity to
work as a janitor a generator to say it I don't know if it's correct to what it
means the person like to do everything in the place
then he begins to walk there in two years he was helping the
the astronomy two years he was he was
invited to be as a member of the staff of job Salvatore as an
astronomer two years working in Japan
[Music] he learned everything from life not in
schools and the he always for me is a big example
let's see you okay you have if you have multiple
students to work and the biggest places where you
can interact or if the equipments and know more about what he's doing you can
feel a motivation to work there and to develop projects in this area
the user that we try to do if the students here well to show
many many different areas of science [Music]
so in way to motivate them to find
TR that she they feel that is what they want to do and future
then here is an image of him that from his fantastic person for what he did he
never studied in Universe never he never started in high school he finished the
classes when he was 14 years old and left the school and the learning
everything um working at the job sabotage with the
astronomers yeah in two years he learned what people learning in our University
for four six years wow begins they begin
to work as astronomers Marcelo this is why we don't know we don't know where
the next great minds are we don't know uh what they can contribute in the world
and this is the reason why exposure to science and you know and an easy Gateway is
through uh amateur astronomy sidewalk astronomy like such as the events that
you do you just don't know who is going to be inspired by something like that and here's a guy hummason he helped
change the world the way that we understand our universe
giving contribution to science this is I think that's very important because he
works with Hubble now he will have a pictures of both
that's cool here it made it fantastic pictures
and he helped the herbal with the theories of the expansion of the
universe to show that the Andromeda was another galaxy
he worked directly with Jehovah the honestly is a
here is a picture that I think that's fantastic do I have the moments that is here
[Music]
awesome any he never studied in universe but he
making many presentations of lectures in universes and he received
uh how to say a special doctor
from a University at the end of his life I before the end of his life then it's a
very special person that I I ever showed to my students as an example
of how to do science and then I have another one that I I'll return here
quickly to show you and this guy here
I don't know if you know him everybody knows him he's catch colors
I don't know if you know he bought any blinds and his father read to him he was an
engineer reads of his books of physics astronomy and he finished The Graduate
agenda graduation in physics and he made the PhD in physics associated with
astronomy and he was the first blind astronomer in the first PhD astronomy
and how can we can imagine someone that's blind
that's who wants to work with astronomy he works with something that he can't
see anyone can imagine it's great I did something that he is
difficult to understand but he made contributions he working in
the radio for this book or foreign as an astronomer there
and the I know that everybody knows this move contacts
based in a book you were written by car Sega
and one of the characters of the move that this guy he is a blind astronomist
that who works at the other civil I read the telescope he is a his
participates in this movie as an honor to catch colors
because radio telescope then you see a blind
person that works with astronomy and have success with his work giving
contributions to science we have the homosome that he never
studied in high school and universities and the he made more contributions than
many people that see who studied in universities and you know that she
depends on the motivation of everyone and if something that they want to do
here is Anime a picture of Kent girls give one of presentations a lecture that
he gave here is I have a special
documentary about him I think that is from PBS PBS no that's a general United
States remember if it's correct or what is that
this is what I I had to to to show and I
think that is soon we have a new edition of the sky in telescope or Isaac of the
magazines the contributions are arrived from
different parts of towards them I I think that's it so I mean this movie
will be possible to have a new edition of Sky Zone which is
contributions from many people you have a special contribution from
a person that I think that he was here I don't know if he's here he's not here
from Argentina here I contribution Max
about the eclipse yeah
thank you very much so much for the opportunity thank you so much
oh he's very informative and I learned something new every time thank you so much
thank you okay all right so
um uh next up is um is Adrian Bradley and Adrian uh has
been very consistent in uh photographing the night sky
um and uh and the dude's like an artist uh his uh
sense of composition uh his uh feel for light and and how it uh you know
worked with the Landscapes that he has in front of him uh he's been you know
in spots that you know photographers know when when they're having a magic
moment and Adrian seems to be there more often than not
um Adrian thanks for coming down to Global star party and showing us more of that magic I appreciate it uh Scott and yeah I
think part of the magic is seeing everything that's there and being able
to capture it in such a way is that you're showing your photo shows or your
image shows what you see and um so I'm going to I'll share some of the
images I have it's been a very cloudy stretch I have managed to get a couple
of images and I thought of getting one earlier this later on tonight or early this morning
but my fatigue may take the best but let me share my second screen
um so today's theme is uh our attraction and
so you know my theme chasing Dark Skies I've adopted that is my Mantra it's like
what where am I where am I going I'm trying to chase the Dark Skies now I
live in the state of Michigan so we get a lot of clouds but um we still do have
some places basically starting at about the 43rd parallel of where the thumb of
Michigan is the Skies start to get darker this image here which is kind of
my it's a theme image I've got many I could show but and Scott speaks to what I try to do in
my images is show a marriage of what we see on Earth the
normal everyday things we see on Earth um and framing the sky with it and just
talking about how amazing it actually is to
see what we can see from our home planet you know astronomy always tended to be
about off Earth or not involving Earth but we're also in
the universe too so so with that let's talk about attracted to Dark Skies
this is an ixos 100 it probably looks
familiar to you Scott oh yeah um there's a camera hooked to it and my attempt
here I believe this was a shot at the Orion Nebula that I was attempting to do
um but uh this is as bad as it gets it's my
neighborhood it's at home and uh so you say why am I attracted to Dark
Skies from home I can see a few Stars I can see the moon and this is this is
actually a moon picture taken uh the recent worm Moon taken from uh using
that telescope I had on top of the uh on top of the mount
um however there might be other things I want to see and when you go somewhere darker
this I like this slide it sort of Fades into the picture so you're seeing a half of it where this is the moon and these
are stars that's Mars here this is the head of Orion and this is the Heidi's
clustered from Taurus and it's there at the same time that you can see the moon
now it turns out that tonight or early this morning Eastern time the other side
of this quarter moon it'll be a waning crescent it'll be
we just passed last quarter so the other side of this will be lit if I were to
choose to get up and try and take a very similar picture the
um center of the Galaxy in fact the moon sits not far from bodies window in the
galaxy and depending on my fatigue level I was the hope was to go and get it but
I don't know if I would have time to get to a dark enough Sky to be able to
easily image that so from a reasonably dark sky you can see
Orion and if you've got a modified camera you see you know the um
BH Alpha missions there's the California nebula here um
this uh this is Orion's Belt the sash I'm drawing a severe blank on this this
is something I out you know all of you in the audience know what this is going around Orion
um Lambda orionist and the nebula here and this is the Rosette
um okay what is this region John you know
what this is uh adjusting yeah something let me open
you up here I have drawn those of you Global star parties Loop Barnard's Loop
yeah this is the level of fatigue I'm probably not going to go anywhere because I always know Barnard's loot now
there is another part of Barnard's Loop that is over here and I don't know that
I could say I'm Imaging it because I really don't see it here now back to the theme of Dark Skies you
see there's light here from distant towns and just other light that my
camera captured and that's that's how the Milky Way looks from this
region this is it's a reasonably dark State Park area
um and you can see some of the Dust Lanes but those of you that go out to
you know out to the West New Mexico to panhandle of Oklahoma where the Oaky
Tech star party is into you know Arizona these places that are at higher
elevation even out there uh with you in California some places you're at higher
elevation all of a sudden you see a lot more that you normally don't see there's
Sky Globe this is what using the same camera there's Barnard's loop again and then
there's this region which I do believe is a second part of Barnard's loop I was
actually attempting to capture some of that next uh time I get to go out here this is going to be a focus is to see if
I can get more of this because there is actually a second Loop that goes around
in this and this entire region a lot of Imaging happens in this region and
there's a region that's so there's a reason it's so rich is because this is a part of the Milky Way We generally don't
see in images that we um that we take in a Milky Way
we call it Milky Way season when you know when the core of the Milky Way
comes up in the northern hemisphere of course the Southern Hemisphere and we just heard from many of our friends they
see the Milky Way a lot differently the core is much more of the core is visible
both the northern and the southern parts but we get to see this part of the Milky
Way and if we're somewhere dark um you're able to image that so
you know this I did not know the first time I went and I imaged this region and
I saw this it floored me but I said I'm just used to seeing the core
so so now we here's the part that this is a
typical I call it a typical type of image that Milky Way Photography you
have a beautiful there's either a body of water or stream there's a beautiful
you know area and nature and this was one of the images where I took several
images stacked them and so I got this region you know for you because you can
see some of these dust Lanes leading to this the row fiyuki complex here
um it's actually m6 and M7 and a lot of
other detail that I was able to get from a few around
10 one minute images of this part of the Milky Way and it's this is what's happening around five
o'clock if we wait one more month in the month of April Northern Hemisphere this
will be happening in the morning hours and um I waited until I believe June or July
when this happens in the evening hours and I went out here and I did the Imaging but uh morning hours Milky Way
rises above the Horizon and at my latitude it it appears to be at this
angle that you see but got some uh pretty good detail here
however attracted to even darker Skies notice the difference in the sky color
notice I've got roughly the same image this is of course an image that's fading in
same type of detail with only two minutes at a portal 2 site in other
words the camera the light coming from this region comes through this part
you know in a portal 2 sky where there's no light around for miles and miles
um the sky just opens up for you if you wish to image it in more detail is
possible so if I do this for 10 minutes I can get
more detail but I have to be careful not to blow some of the highlights out in a
lot of Milky Way shots bodies window which is this region here it's a it's a
bright region it's one of the few regions where they're all of these dust clouds and Things Are
are not impeding our view towards the center of the Galaxy so a lot of study
was done here looking for uh stars with planets basically the search for exoplanets
happened in a region right up here and in a lot of Milky Way photos that
region tends to get blown out I can't say that this region isn't necessarily
blown out here if I zoom in we would find out and here's the Sagittarius star
cloud and then this region where M11 is actually around here it's around
here it's this dot right here this region gets blown out a lot so there's regions of the Milky Way it can be very
bright um when you see this dark nebula it's a Telltale sign that you're somewhere dark
or you've imaged the Milky Way from your location long enough to where you're starting to pick up this
dark nebula so the darker the sight the easier it is
to get all of these wonders in the sky now
this part of the presentation we talk about seeing it naked eye and that's a
lot of before you take an image you have to be able to see it naked eye if you can't then
you're guessing at where you know your target is and you know this I think for the rest of this
presentation we're using the Milky Way it's one of my favorite subjects the galactic core is what we're focusing
on now there are I have another presentation maybe I'll redo in a future Global star party where there's in the
northern hemisphere there's four parts of the Milky Way that that you can image making the Milky Way a year-round object
you you do not have to stop shooting at this just because you know winter comes
um I know it gets cold but right as again right now this this is
happening at between four in the morning it was three in the morning we just had daylight savings time in our part of the
uh United States but the core Rises and you can get some
beautiful shots but if there's enough light pollution it's it takes a camera to pick up on any
kind of detail so again attraction the darker Skies
um you see a little more detail now everything here is true to what the eye
would see including this plane walk going by except for the fact that I have a little
bit of color from using an ha modified camera you see this structure
at a site that's barely bortal for you can see some of this it disappears
right here you just sort of see this part known as the Crazy Horse nebula
because it kind of resembles a horse you see a little bit of that structure you can see kind of this region
this kind of a triangular region here that marks where the center of our home
Galaxy is you may see Messier 8. in the in a
camera image you definitely see it but if you notice this Rift here this thickness part of the cygnus rift that
goes all the way through Blends in with the night sky there's actually stars that are visible here and
um it seems to blend in with the night sky when you're looking at this naked eye and it just looks kind of like two
branches going this way in that way and [Music] um
it's neat to see and if you never get out to any site that's any darker
you may you're either underwhelmed or you're still happy that you got to see the Milky Way
so the words say it all this is exactly
what you see in a truly Dark Side a lot of times when I do my Imaging
I like to try and reproduce what it looks like to the eyes and with the
exception of the fact that I use my ha modified camera but I I mod I set the uh
white balance to match what we see and what happens is the pink color remains
in the um you know in this part of the image
that pink color will remain as far because of the hydrogen Alpha emissions
the camera picks up that those emissions and gives it that that uh pinkish color
but then the rest of this the rest of this is essentially what you see you see
the dust lanes and you see those you actually see dust Lanes heading towards behind the Mesa here is Antares
you see those in the sky and all of this is visible
um and it's an amazing site when the Milky Way comes out at a dark sky
taking a picture of it yeah you could because it's dark enough
you really can't just snapshot it by holding the camera it's not quite that
bright but it is bright enough that without using a Tracker give it maybe 10
seconds with a 10 seconds with a fast lens and by fast we mean an aperture of
f 1.4 um f 2.8 10 seconds and you have a shot like this
yeah Milky Way Photography on all sides and I didn't include it in this set of
slides but other regions of the Milky Way show up just as easily
and um again there from this latitude down here
in Oklahoma a couple of more nebulas show up that are in Scorpius That You
Don't See unless you catch the Milky Way at the right time coming up and saying you go to Okie text
Star Party yep that's where all my My Darkest is oh yeah yeah this is from the
Oaky text actually I can do this I can close down and this is from Michigan
Alcoa and this is another this is another angle in Winter of um the
Ausable River that we have it's a reasonably dark site and um definitely
recommend um going there if you go to Michigan
can we catch a list can we catch a lift with you one of these days yes Kareem we will we'll have to come
down with us as long as you're willing to share the driving the hotel expense just come on with us or we'll greet you
there this is a processed image and this is a processed image of the Milky Way the
fascinating part about it is we're still an astronaut we're transitioning into
astronomical Twilight in this photo Milky Way as bright as it ever gets
um and I'll see if I can find it it's [Music] um
I would have to so here just so that you can see what I'm trying to do
um I didn't go through Aurora in my presentation but the darker the sky the
easier it is to see Aurora as well especially if it's rather faint oh yeah
yeah yeah you got kind of the picket fence Aurora now there's a lot of light
here but the skies themselves are dark enough to sort of make up for that and
that didn't quite get into the presentation but for those that are fans
of the Northern Lights and if you're lucky enough trying to image the Milky Way there's
Andromeda galaxy and there are the Northern Lights the green we can see the
green here um and this I'm releasing this because it's
uh I had a lucky couple this is uh
this is one of their photos that they will always forever get to have and
um it's Aurora going off in the background and this is a venue that they got married and
with a I use the composite photo I had them post for a few seconds and then
without moving the camera I moved them out of the way and took the longer exposure to expose this part of the Aurora back
here and um it was quite a challenge and I enjoyed trying to do that and I can zoom
in they stayed as still as they could and
I thought it turned out this was nearly this was late at night about 11 30 when we were done the whole dance party was
over the wedding had long since it's it had been about eight hours I think from the time we had started and uh so that
after that everyone packed up and went home I was glad to have gotten that the
sky overhead is a rather dark sky northern part of the lower thumb of
Michigan so even when there's a lot of light here when you're in you still have
a rather dark sky because this there isn't much other light you can still see
some things going on so cool yep
and I think there were a couple other things I was looking for but at this point I think it's good to we can go
ahead and turn it over to uh John because it's uh he's got it's 10 23
Eastern so uh Scott I'll go ahead and give it back to you and give it to John
so I can uh he can share his artist view
of the universe I'm here at
you know a great Observatory tonight I want to see you actually climb that
ladder right now yeah well there's somebody on it I gotta wait oh
yeah that's right but anyway you know I love big telescopes and I am attracted to them I
must admit I can't help it but uh this is my shirt I wanted to show you this
that's pretty awesome it's it's a great shirt it's a little tight but
well you know I love showing them they're showing the big guns one way or another
that's uh I'm trying to maybe get better for the bowling league well
surprisingly surprisingly the more slender you are the
better you tend to be for bowling because with all the big muscles we use those to throw it down the lane all the
folks I've trained with them said try to take the muscle out of the Swing so yeah that's why I prefer astronomy because
making the ball fly to the pins right yeah or being able to rotate a ball
my ball it's called the lunar module it's
actually white like the Moon so I call it the lunar module
and it's probably attracted to those white pins so well they actually have there is a way
to get an actual Moon the the real sphere of the Moon onto like a bowling
visible and um if I had that I would definitely show
it off at Global Star Party um I may look into doing that before
yeah I travel when I travel to uh there's a national bowling tournament that I go to every year whether or not I
do well is a different story but it's always fun to go um at any rate uh yeah I
he's trying to be I love bowling those that happen to love bowling watching I
love bowling I actually bowled in a PDA Regional at one point so I've
I've experimented with the idea of what would it be like to be Pro and I've decided
there's two things I'm going to keep the job that I have and I'm going to keep on
taking images of the night sky because sometimes it's just flat out more rewarding a good score in bowling feels
good it's nice to get out and exercise and I recommend all of you watching Global Star Party to do anything at all
to um get some exercise oh yeah I have something in mind that's right but um if
you like big telescopes you need to be yeah you know yeah if you want to carry big telescopes that's right you need to
exercise you need to be you need to be ready like John he could not only carry it on his shirt he can carry the real
object that thing behind him yeah that's that uh that uh telescope behind him he
he can pick it up take it home with him if he wants to he decided Mount Wilson needed it more than him so he left it
there yeah if I could carry that mirror to my car would they let me have it I don't
think I could do it they'd be too scared to try and retrieve it from you if you could carry it no I don't see them
going after you at some point you've got to relinquish
to the aperture size so you don't hurt yourself you know yeah and that's well you see you look at
all the the perfectly good telescopes on uh your desk Scott you've got you've got
the spotting scope behind you you've got one yeah yeah and then you've got the uh this uh
background it's not it's not there right now yeah where where did it go it's in
Armenia is where it is oh wow beautiful and and we ought to we ought to make
mention um you've got the half of annular totality
for this year on your um on your screen and you've got the path of total totality oh yeah
um in the back of your screen yeah they are those of you there are people that are starting to want to know about what
to do about the solar eclipses coming up it's time to get your solar filter stuff
we're already uh we received two huge orders today for eclipse
glasses I'm talking about the thousands and thousands of eclipse glasses per
order okay so um because the um uh the city you know Arkansas is one
of the states that uh the total eclipse will come through um uh and uh so the state parks are
getting ready to place their orders um there are also uh you know City
Colorado Dallas and you know so many so many people are going to see this total
eclipse coming up in 2024 uh that it will absolutely be more people than that
witness the 2017 Total Eclipse yeah they double okay
NASA's being the greatest science event in human history well this one in 2024
will have a broadcast yeah yeah and I think uh a lot of it had there's going to be second time viewers
that got the chance to see the first one yeah um and were completely mesmerized by it
um I was one of those and that was it was a wonderful experience even more
Wonderful by the fact that um my children got to see it with me and
um and I told them both look straight at the eclipse once it's covered you know the one of the magical moments of a
total solar eclipse is when the moon fully blocks out like my hand here
blocks out the Sun and this or the corona becomes visible around the Sun it
is a beautiful thing unfortunately my photography chops were not where they
are now um these days the plan is to look at if
I'm in an area where it's not cloudy the plan is simply to look at the eclipse enjoy seeing it take
a few handheld shots and then um you know I have a solar filter actually
that works for my uh big lens camera take a few shots
um enjoy it not do too much first if it's your first total solar
eclipse the recommendation is to just enjoy it get your binoculars remember
that during totality you can look at the sun naked eye you can't you can look at
it without any special filter but be careful usually someone there will have
a countdown for you and uh if they start counting down till totality ends get
those eclipse glasses on and get ready because as soon as enough of the moon
moves away from the Sun those first few lines can blind you because your eyes have now
grown accustomed to basically dusk the the uh
the light it feels like it's Dusk and if you're in a place where there's a
horizon you can see the belt of Venus around it's just like it looks away from
the Sun during a normal Sunset but it surrounds the entire Horizon so if
you're in an area where you've got a low Horizon to All Parts you'll notice the
belt of Venus everywhere so it's um you'll notice stars and planets if they're nearby there's a lot of things
you notice nature sort of shuts down there are people that might feel the rush of pollen when the sun comes back
out and they thought they were crazy and I said no the plants responded to dusk
as almost immediately immediately animals yeah animals everything wake up
it's amazing just move with it and um and the other the other final thing before is yet for uh we see some amazing
uh amazing um drawings the drawings of the Universe
from John the other thing is do not be embarrassed if you find yourself
screaming and yelling um during the eclipse there's some you
may have told he did unless it was recorded somehow in video I have a recording
um and whenever I whenever I decide I no longer will be embarrassed by it I will
play it yeah it's the it's the sound it's actually a video that ended up I ended
up capturing a video of the 2017 Eclipse yeah um in flight and you can hear all of us
in the background just sort of yelling and screaming during totality it's uh
it's it's a telling it's one of those weird things where something
uncontrollable just starts to happen yeah so uh depending on your personality and it's if if you've never seen
something like that before it it will blow your mind so so hopefully I've talked up I've talked
up the total solar eclipse there is an annular Eclipse which if you get down south that other pathway coming in from
uh north northwest of the U.S coming down through
um some lucky town that gets to see them both without having to travel um I think that's what town is that
Scott well there's there's an area in the Hill Country of Texas that we're
going to uh which is um near Leakey Texas and uh it's a
private Ranch and um we're calling this uh this event
the crossroads of the eclipses Star Party um uh because uh you know it's going to
be a star party it's gonna we're gonna be set up there for several days it's camping okay this is this is a ranch
there's no cabins there um but we look up the water we will have
um uh you know we will have uh uh we intend to have flush toilets actually
trailered in okay and um uh you're going to want to bring your
tent you're going to want to bring your camping gear or your RV um you know so those those are all
things um uh you know that that it can it can accommodate
um but it's going to be dark out there uh we took Sky measurements down to you
know uh my my dark meter readings were uh about 21 and a half uh oh that's
that's very rare you know so you're going to be able to get a nice uh Milky Way views there as well
um and uh you know if you go for the 2023 annular at this place uh you can
set right back up exactly where you were before for the 2024 total total so
if you go to explore scientific.com forward slash Eclipse you can you can
definitely see all the details about that event or the those two events so so
there you all go those of you watching you now have a place you can go to view
both the annular and the total solar eclipse and that's something I'll
consider um just because the weather is going to be better or it usually is in April of
2024 um that's when the total solar eclipse happens and we know in the north the
Northeast part of the country is subject to clouds
yeah yeah storms yeah so it you know it it lessens the effect of the entire area
just getting completely dark but uh you know seeing what's actually happening you can never predict about eclipses you
know I mean no you can't change the weather you know so yeah yep yep all
right well I've taken enough all right I've taken enough of John's time he's over there preparing his uh drawings and
preparing the wow us John I am going to stop video and bow out and give you the
complete floor because you deserve it my man okay take over
all right so it's uh Mount Wilson time
I was uh preparing a couple images to uh start with
so yeah where is that eclipse going to be going uh through exactly
um as far as California is concerned as far as California's concerned that
you will not be anywhere near the path of totality right I think I have to go
to um maybe Colorado uh you know Santa Fe is on the pass San
Antonio this is the annular path okay okay we'll go through it will go through
the um uh Pacific Northwest up there um but the April 8th 2024 total eclipse
will come up through uh Pacific Ocean and then cross across Mexico and then
start coming up through southern Texas and then Arc across you know the uh
Eastern Seaboard so okay good so let's start you all set yep
so here's uh some views I think this could have been our star party the one we went to
so when the moon was out we typically do a Mount Wilson 60 inch Star Party each
year so so this is the Dome and and you can actually see some Stars
uh with the through the opening and they have uh red lights it's a real great
event it's a monster telescope you know being attracted to Big telescopes yeah
yes yeah 80 foot high I think but there's a lot of beautiful oh sorry
about that that's a Venus with a flower that I did with the star yeah that's a
Venus actually and I used the roads uh oh that is Venus I see yeah
sorry about that anyway uh this is some of the things you can see through that
telescope uh this is a planetary nebula called the Blue Snowball
so this might have been actually from uh our night so well I went there a couple times it could have been
here's another one NGC 6826 the blinker
it uh does not blink in uh that telescope for some reason
but enough light yeah and that has quite a dimensional feel the way that uh inner
lobe is around the neutron star it's pretty cool that took uh quite a few hours to
get along Campbell's hydrogen star fits right in the background tonight
yeah that was a real neat thing to see the color of that star it's oh yeah
it's just you don't even really see these things unless you know where to look right that was our Jupiter this was
from Scotch night the seeing wasn't I mean it was good it's always good
there but so that's uh actually one of the moons I think it's um
Ganymede there was a little detail on it you can't really see it but
that's Mars that was from another night um through the 60 inch
there's a show piece Saturn no he's cool I mean the view through that telescope
when you see it and it snaps in it's it looks like that picture better and you start to understand why Mount Wilson
observatories are where they are because the seeing quality is so stable there
um that you can get remarkably sharp images of planets M13 that thing looked
like somebody dropped a whole thing of diamonds on velvet it was really amazing
oh yeah that is a mind blower you can't even fit it all in with that it's so
much power that is the Saturn nebula
that's another view we can get through there that's another dead star
this is uh I was walking my dog again and I saw these beautiful flowers I had
to take a picture because I saw the heart in there that's cool and and I gave
these to my mom you know just to brighten her day yeah and uh I will be honest I did have to put a few flowers
in there in the lower right but just to connect the dots you know
we don't want to call them we'll call that another version of the heart nebula yeah
there's that was a great view this was we were looking at the moon in uh Jupiter this is um exactly where we were
with Scott that was really good
it's a great shot I've got a few more if we have time so yeah that uh comment I really want to
get to that I'm not comment the uh eclipse the total eclipse hey there is a new Comet coming
I'm not sure yeah is it going to be good or has anybody you know there is talk
about it being extremely bright awesome yeah that that happened with E3
and um mileage varies with I know mileage varies with Thomas are you meaning to
tilt your camera up a little bit because we're just seeing like the bottom of your chin we're seeing the bicep right
there you go we're seeing it we're seeing guns there he is yeah PSP welcome
to the gun show maybe that's part of the effect I'm just trying to get a break
here you know that's all right this is this is the gun show part of the GSP
where your large stature but you love astronomy there's a place for us too
I'm trying to build a Heavenly Body here let's be real I'm just trying to eat healthier foods and yeah I mean it's
it's a work in progress like everything you know that's what's beautiful about life is that you have yeah plenty of
time to get yourself in order God willing that's right but uh and with good support in this
hobby you know this hobby people they don't even know how wonderful it is but
after three days you can put yourself in harm by not getting any sleep so right we
gotta know that very well and solar observers always get me because they they go well I stayed up and looked at
yours now you got to look at mine and I'm like oh it's rough it's tough but you gotta you
know you gotta be able to hang in good exercise that's right
so uh this is a view I was we've been getting murdered here with uh rain and
storm after storm and you know it could get depressing but I take my little sneak moments to get
the dog walked and get out or you know look through a pair of binoculars if I see something really good and it was
really crisp with these clouds moving through and then um so I did this piece based on that you
know the I've done Orion quite a few times uh like you know constellation as
well as the nebula uh so I'm getting pretty good at him but
this one is a sketch and then uh notice the baby Orion Nebula
see it all right very well done and it has wings
little hydrogen region and uh the clouds moving through and I
added some color you know very faint color for the stars I could see some red
Beetlejuice you know it could blow any day now they say I mean that would be a show
brighter than the full moon for what how many months yep book babies watching on YouTube says
dude I'm jealous great sketch oh thank you I appreciate that you know that's really
part of it and uh sharing with people to show them what views you can see you
know with just a pair of binoculars it's absolutely amazing yeah this was the comet through binoculars
um from my Hawaii trip with my wife our anniversary 31 years and you know what I
was attracted to her the power of Attraction here we are
again yes you were that was perfect I know I do love her you know but you
have to have a good woman behind you in this Hobby um because you know
it takes time and the equipment it's a little costly here and there look
at this this is from Wilson this is our lunar view that's really
good yeah that was the Shadows were just incredible on The Terminator
and what the Terminator is it's a term we use where light and dark terminate so
usually there's some great highlighted features right near there so if you're
looking to draw or even observe those are good areas to crank up the
magnification and you can get some really nice shadow patterns and
a beautiful blending of colors subtle Grays and you know Earth Tones just
amazing that view was like no other I'll say that
when you look through that 60 inch and to think Edward Hubble looked through that and we're looking at it
that's just mind-blowing it's an honor to be honest yes yeah
considering the fact he did the same sort of sketching that you did and that's the kind of view he had so he was
able to get the kind of detail that he got so you're showing us exactly what that was like
yeah and maybe even better look at that triffid this is uh actually one merko
did for me through my 28. so we tracked long enough at cwo camera 1600 through
the 28 I think we did 15 second shorts that was about all we
could get but I'm proud of it and the colors are beautiful so I thought oh that's his so
that's an actual Astro image that wouldn't that is yeah that's yeah that's no sketch if I could sketch that boy I'd
have to be in a spaceship but um maybe they'll take me a beautiful shot
in 20. if they are real I would just think you know of waterfalls Palm
thoughts and will you please take me somewhere so I can see it up close this is my little buddy uh boss he
always photo bombs me so I just had to show you a couple this is a mock-up of uh
my m87 is it the uh elliptical guys yeah with the jet
coming out of it yes um you know they're gonna take um all
these telescopes they've already done this with our black hole in the center of our galaxy and from all around the
world they've combined uh you know telescope images interferonically and they've created
essentially a telescope that's almost as big as the Earth so the more that come online the better
it'll get but they have a live view of our Central black hole rotating
the real view of the Horizon The Event Horizon and then they're going to try to get
this one this one's much more complex they're gonna you know try to use the
same Theory as they get more telescopes and hopefully it'll come online and they'll be able to see that one one of
the most massive black holes ever just insanely powerful
there's the one I was showing he's he's always with me my little buddy
here is um my M51 that it's like I've done this
I would say 15 different uh versions so I'm getting better
and this is an actual more of an eyepiece View looking through my 28 or a 32 inch
actually both and you know with these telescopes you would think because they're so big that
you would be able to see like you know astrophotographic detail
but your eye is catching photons that left 27 million light years ago and it
is so faint and by the time it hits your eye It's been traveling a long time to get
here so you're actually looking back in time some of that yeah
it's amazing it just blows my mind you know like the stars you see right there
okay let's just say we could touch those Stars right it's just imaginary let's say you could
reach out and touch the stars and you know the Galaxy looks like it's not that much further right
but that thing is so much farther that it's uncomprehensible to even think
about reaching the distance to that Galaxy Stars yeah and yet we they're pretty far
it is amazing and um so yeah this is a good accomplishment for me uh this one I
really like the way it's coming out and uh hopefully I'll get it done soon
yeah I'm seeing a couple of places where you cap The Notches you captured the uh
star-forming regions in there especially one of those real one of those spirals
near the that second you know the second Galaxy you drew um there's some those knots
those are some really uh yeah details that my Pinos like I said when when you
uh were talking about transparency and altitude and and uh good error you know the air
comes off the Pacific Ocean it's quite steady and it doesn't get too chopped up
with the mountains it basically is onshore you know when it when it's just right
conditions align and it's this is the kind of detail yeah yeah I
see that in that yeah I forget the I forget I know if both transparency and seeing are good and you get what you
just drew but that depending on if seeing is not good or if transparency is
not good it how it affects you know you take what you get in this hobby that's
because you know it's hit or miss you don't always get the opportunity you may set up and
plan on it but um especially what we've been seeing in this show up you guys what we've been
seeing in the Northeast in Midway we call it the Midwest but it's really the Mideast
um yeah we've had more Cloud covers no we've had all kind of like tonight is
the one of the first nights is to be dead clear so I'm sure there's going to be some Imaging going on tonight and The
Moon Rises you know right alongside with the Galaxy and I'm again it's an image I
wanted but I think the moon's going to be a little too bright for me to pull it off and I'm going to be a little too
tired to try and drive where I want to go you know chasing those uh attracted
to those Dark Skies um probably gonna be attracted to more
sleep tonight but there's gonna be uh we got new moon coming up and you know
me and you John that means we got more we got stuff we gotta get out there and
do it's not it's not a uh want it's more of a need I'm sure you talk about
attraction the sky's clear and it's a new moon it pulls you right out out
there to observe it be a part of it sometimes it's just about immersing
myself in in the sky it's you know it just it just feels good to be out there
here's one I'm I'm quite proud of this is another this is years of work actually that's
how long I've been trying to get this thing right and this is a tough one because
you see how there's an outer ring on that yeah that when you super expose this
there's so much stuff even further out you know that exploded it's just we
don't see that but um that ring will make it look fuzzy like it's not out of
focus seeing it that though that's beautiful yeah this one uh is you know of course again Mount Wilson was very
helpful with this yeah and and I did some study with the 28 inch but um the
the only time I ever saw that that spirographic detail like um those little
lobes inside is through the 60. you don't get that with the 28 and uh yeah
you only went that through Imaging with a 20 yeah and not seeing it so that yeah
that that has to be amazing just seeing it through that yeah you know the big
Scopes uh Scott someday I would love to get one of those giant Scopes could you
imagine yeah I mean you have an observatory class 50 inch or 65 60 inch
scope in your backyard well not on the ground but on a short ladder
less than a year you know so yeah you get serious about
it let me know well yeah I got it I got a hit I gotta hit I have attract the
lottery yeah you'd build an observatory like the one you got behind you
yes I I might I might try to buy it maybe if I hit it
this is uh again Venus it's a beautiful that's a beautiful shot
that I want to go on record as saying this during Global star party because we talk
about media coverage um if you go back to those that conjunction that you drew we talk about
media coverage and sometimes how things kind of get sensationalized by the media well this
conjunction was not I don't think anything was said about the conjunction
and it led to a bunch of speculation about what was going on especially
aliens in places where you know because where it was cloudy
most of the time up until it cleared up and the planets ended up being that
close together um I got questions from folks what is
that and if you if I you go through your Instagram feed you might see people
proving that it's aliens because you know it it looks like planes they're
standing still in the sky in its planets there's that effect you know that effect right now this has
happened to me where you look at something and it starts dancing around and it's it's a perspective issue and
that's why they have blinking lights on airplanes because that would happen yeah
um yeah so yeah that can you know really lead you to believe you're seeing something if you're tired right and to
add to it there was no media there was no real media coverage of that event coming together
um had there been I think people would have known that the planets were
coming together it may have been even if it's sensationalized you know this isn't
going to happen again for five gazillion years the the good that comes out of the media
covering such a thing it becomes the fact that we're aware
that it's happening and as astronomers and astronomy enthusiasts we can always
look at our Sky charts our Sky Maps and this thing didn't show the phone but you
know you we can get at the bottom of what we're seeing and inform the public
fill in fill in some of the gaps to the public all my neighbors came and they're like what is it yeah what is it and uh
you know we were happy to tell them it's just planets don't worry they're not sitting there they're not getting information to kill us they're if
they're just planets you know there isn't anything looking at you you know peering through the sky watching us
although you know there there will there was a lot of that too um but
you know it's it's it's okay to explain what's really going on and it's okay for
people to think what they are thinking because the bottom line is there's an interest in astronomy
and it takes your mind off of all the all of the things going on every different country has an issue uh
political issue to deal with or you know a real struggle and if you're Russia or the Ukraine you have real war still
going on um the nice guy can take your mind off of that even if for a few minutes right
it gives you a perspective that is to understand what's important you know so yes
and now the beautiful moon oh sorry I mean yeah I can go back yeah I know it's
getting I know it's getting late though so that's why I'm gonna wrap this up I mean yeah we've had a long good run and
we've kind of got a little off topic here and there but you know it wouldn't
be the back cabinet it wouldn't be the back half of global star party a little bit off that's that's why we get put
back here John because I know we we'd extend Global Star Party by two hours if
if we let off it would just be us for about an hour going back and forth and showing images and you know David Lee
giving up and just logging off yeah I think it wouldn't it would be as
good but they don't stay as late for us but no that's okay I mean that's okay that's yeah I I don't mind you know I've
had the opportunity to present in the earlier part of global star party before and
um it's always an honor to have some of those gentlemen there watching and seeing your presentation but um you know
the back half is where we talk about it and
through our conversation our our enthusiasm for the night skies amateurs
shows and hopefully encourages anyone that watches this either now or you're
watching it in a replay later you know astronomy is something worth
being a part of it's worth being a part of this community it's it's one of the great things it's one of the great
things even living even learning about your Universe using the cell phone for
this stuff you can see a Vista that you have and you just take a picture of it and
you know a lot of times just the the way the camera sees it it looks like this
picture I haven't done very much to it but um you know look at the clouds how
they're almost painted with brushes and you know as a kid growing up with a father that had an art gallery
I would see these like old Master paintings literally he had Da Vinci's
Rembrandts and some of the Flemish painters and when they painted the sky I
was just so intrigued by how amazingly real it looks and and you know it was a
big theme in art through history is painting the heavens you know
so uh I was captivated with both you know art and astronomy you know as I've
been blessed this is the most amazing Hobby it's just it's always new and refreshing and and
the technology and all the people from around the world doing it it just really
makes it accessible uh to levels that you're not ever gonna you know it takes
years to get to do what you do I mean you know yeah yeah there's there there's
definitely a learning curve you and you have to have a and there's a goal in mind and the goal
you know at one point the goal could be to produce an image that's gonna win an
award and that didn't work for me that works for you know a few really good
nightscape images out there but what works for me is to present an image that
reflects exactly what I'm seeing that you know I see beauty in this area I re
I represent it as cleanly as I can and not not only do I you know when it comes
to the Milky Way not only do we take pictures of it but be able to walk up the uh whatever part of the Milky Way
and start talking about the regions that are there what what's that H Alpha
region called or you know what is it it's not just it isn't just a pretty background for me it tends to be the
star of the photos or you know it the way that we that away when you see that
in real life like what you capture you have to be out in the middle of nowhere at like hours that are and you're there
and you're like I've got to show somebody this this is yeah this is amazing oh there's plenty of times I've
just stood there and just went okay how am I going to capture this there's the other frustrating times
where I've stood there I've seen it but then clouds come in before I can capture it so
you know okay I guess no one else gets to see this
when I see that Galaxy for me you know being a big time Observer it just
reminds me of I show this to people all the time I at
public star parties I'll tell them you know when you look at that Galaxy you're seeing it you're out in the Orion arm
way out here and you're looking into the course so you're looking through like two other arms and a lot of you know
galactic clouds when when you hear through that and see that now let me
show you NGC 4565 and from a distance of
how many million light years and then it clicks it gives them a perspective and
you've just brought them literally there because they understand that you know
we're looking at our galaxy from here and it's really no different but it's
60 million light years away or something I think it's 30 I think we get 30 000
light years to the core and something like a hundred thousand light years across yeah still
that's still light years that's not miles that's not you know
nine trillion miles per light year okay yeah how far is the nearest Edge on
would be probably 30 million
or yeah 30 million light years yeah it's amazing yeah so far Andromeda is a mere
2.4 million light years which is still further than it is from here to Los
Angeles that's a great one to bring up for attraction because they are
attracted to one another right now yeah we had that presentation I forget who did it and if we ever let Scott you know
close us out he could tell us all of the great presentations and and who did the
presentation talking about that Collision um and uh
you know and then we could all go to bed but uh so as always John it's it's a
pleasure seeing your words all right thank you likewise yeah all right all right thank you guys
all right Scott okay guys have a great evening thank you everyone and and uh everyone out there get a telescope
yeah keep looking up he's join an astronomy club so you can go look through one yeah you know it's amazing
hobby all right thank you thank you thank you have a great evening yep
you guys have a good night yes sir all right thanks again Scott all right thank you we're only five over yeah
so anyhow I want to thank all of you that uh tuned in tonight uh for our
party it's 115th event uh we will be back next Tuesday for 1 16th and um uh
uh a a little preview of that is that
pran Vera hasini who um uh started something called astronomy
Outreach of Kosovo will be on with us uh and as well as some of the other uh more
familiar uh regulars of of global star party but uh param fair
is no stranger to the amateur astronomy Community uh her influence has been
worldwide and um so we're real pleased to have her on so uh you know uh stay
tuned to uh more uh Global star parties which we typically broadcast on Tuesday
nights um but you can always watch them and rerun as well so whether you're watching
this live or you uh tune in afterwards thanks for thanks for participating as a
as in the audience and um as my good friend Jack core climberries to say keep
looking up good night
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