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yeah my daughter is 16 and uh she's she's in the same boat yep
I hope I can get rid of that soon when the school year starts because they
say it's about to Vermont there's some promising news yeah they they're going to be testing it
uh right now uh Libby uh I think Pfizer they're testing down to 12 years 12
years old yeah and and hopefully uh you're you're 11 now right is it yeah so
all of my family's got visors so I think I'm going to get 502 just because that's
like the most um reliable vaccine right now and
hopefully that still continues on another testing my age
yeah well I'm sure you'll get it soon foreign
yeah there's still a lot of people that are afraid to get it though you know yeah
so but you're not afraid right uh Libby
I'm ready to get my vaccine
she was like very old pictures of me and like different places without a mask
because there wasn't no coronavirus about back then like three years ago and
I'm like oh Lord I miss those days well you can just be able to go out
having a constantly worrying if you're gonna die from it
coronavirus and I definitely miss going to school and things
well we now have the director about to appear mm-hmm
yeah yes
ready Caesar yes of course uh yes okay
we are starting at hello Stella welcome back Hello friends good to see you how
are you doing oh hello right right
I am here just to listen in today uh but uh Happy May the 4th
ah yes hi Stella how are you yes I I read your your message about about the
me yes May the force with you yes too I came very high expectations are you know
I I came with like an expectation of the Star Wars theme and you know something
yeah yeah yes for for many of us uh I I
have um my I am my vir the Western uh no my
middle is in May 23 to have
um I'll be uh 64 years old and I am the typical
generation that I'm started my interest in astronomy and stars and space with of
course Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars like many many people and
um I remember that my my mind blowed up with the first movie when I was 11 years
old like like Levy today right right I know I know yes yes
um instead Star Wars have many many wrong things about us about the space
about sounds in the space or something like you know maybe the accurate of of
science is more near in uh um Star Trek movies or TV series but the
the impressive things of Star Wars The Cinematic things uh
made a for for all generation uh really
interest in science in in space travel like Terraria but of course my my
interest was 100 percent when the TV series from Cosmos
from a carcycle appearing TV in Argentina in the in the 1980
um or 1979 79 I don't remember 1980 and for me was the uh a complete positive
and this moment I had uh I was uh 30 13
years old um you know it's all things that are
making something for anybody of us for everybody sorry of uh where we we
found the interest in science and you know
space of course that I am a really Star Wars fan because I was 11 years old with
the first movie sure hi John how are you yeah
good evening everyone I'm doing good so it's uh you know something I was
never a Star Wars fan but I got to appreciate the first movies because they
were very avant-garde when they came out they were very ahead of their times and
yes they had the science wrong but they provided a means dreaming right a way for us to explore
the rest of the universe with our with our imagination so I will give them the
artistic Liberty to whomever they want because they did it right I didn't like
the the next uh series like the prequels and the follow-ups and this and that I
just like you know no yes it's too much for me absolutely yes
yeah there's no plot it's all about effects you know sure I mean anyone who has uh
the means to have special effects and actually produce everything yes my interest was more about cinematic
potential yes yeah yeah of course
I just watched the force of awakens from now on I've watched every early
Star Wars movie and I've been trying to go back and watch the old ones because I've been to um Star Wars land at Disney
and I've gotten the ride rise of resistance because we go there a lot um
my mom plans to travel to Disney a lot so we go every couple months and I got
rides and I've rode the Millennium Falcon excuse me a moment Libby
I find it almost impossible to hear you I could hear her she just said that she
rode the Millennium Falcon and I oh she did she did
all I heard was that she jumped on a on a burden and flew her away
couldn't hear you at all uh they have all that new Star Wars
I remember I went there before my friends and it was at four in the morning and that's what time they opened
up the park the parks and I remember just Star Wars music where she's playing through the whole entire Disney
Park and everybody the guards were slowly letting everybody through the
food to Star Wars land and I asked my mom I was like can I go in the front and my mom was like no you'll be punched
there were people fighting up there to get in the front of the line to get
everywhere and we waited four hours to get on the Millennium Falcon wow that that's impressive
but actually I admire your perseverance I really do I I would just turn around
go home have ice cream at four in the morning doesn't matter you know
there's no time I almost it tricked my mind because I almost thought it was it was still dark
out and I almost thought it was still night time and it was like oh wait
the sun's coming out that's weird that sounds coming but you know this kind of
sunrises are the most spectacular ones right well we now have John Johnson here hello
John and Carol hello David good yes there's Carol hi Carol how's it
going everybody hi hi Carl how are you doing well thanks
I'm opening the the grid with all cameras because
we are more and more excellent so where in Argentina are you at Cesar
sorry the the web I don't listen to something about where I where I am you know Buenos Aires
in the city yeah City in the middle the middle of Buenos Aires that my
maidan my town area is called Palermo like Palermo in Sicilia Italy because we
have a lot of culture from Italy yes absolutely absolutely we are a mix of of
um mostly Spain and Italian people here and
a lot of people more uh a mix a completely mix of people here is they
call it um in the past grissol of Sol de rasas is like a mix of of different people
from all countries everywhere uh well it's
like United States sounds like the United States yeah yes
when you see something that I say I make the movement with the hands this is
typically genetically absolutely yes I need to tie my hands because
I was talking to some friends we were that we were talking actually about poker and I told them I will never play
poker with anyone my whole what everything I'm thinking my face in my
mannerisms in everything you can't so if I if I have a good hand I'm gonna
be excited if I got a friend and they start crying
it's great it's great Greek is amazing um come on and really
you want what about variable star soccer variable star soccer uh no I'm more of
an outbursting kind of kissing variable I'm more of that kind of thing that's why I started them I was born and raised
in Greece bizarre and I came in the United States yes and I stayed on this side of the
world but they spend two and a half years in Chile you speak some Spanish too okay
and I had the opportunity to actually go to to Argentina because two of my very
dear friends from graduate school are from via Blanca okay uh excellent yeah I
went through Buenos Aires then and it's it's delightful absolutely
well thank you yes this is a it's a a great City and it's a cosmo Cosmopolitan
City yes hi Maxie Hi maximiliano how are you come with us
good night hey everyone yeah astrophotography it's very nice yes
Maxi uh Wander us with a a with from his
uh Facebook uh a all all weeks uh he uh
Wonder us with a a different pictures take with smartphones or
um maybe yes like Cameron it's it's an another another guy of the smartphone
pictures you another another guy that made magic with with smartphones and
telescopes and actually he used a reflex camera and of course that when you try
from the people that practice I uh with a smartphone when they start to use uh
reflex camera or CCD of come on they're impossible to stop
we're 30 seconds till the beginning first if I can
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we are we are at eight o'clock in okay it looks like we're starting
10 o'clock here Fields is a special place on the
spacecraft the electronics package is inside the spacecraft most of all our sensors are mounted
three sensors that measure magnetic fields behind the spacecraft in the shadow shield and then we have five
sensors
these are electric field sensors two of the key measurements to
understand
the Corona and to make those measurements we have to actually go into that plasma and put sensors in the
plasma to measure magnetic fields apparently and that's what that's what it feels soulwind is the escaping atmosphere of
the sun that's escaping Corona we don't understand yet
that feels uh by energy that's my concern below and it's heated to such a
high temperature that it can escape the gravitational
well the design of the fields instrument is [Music] kind of combines two previous styles of
experimentation there are two ways to measure electric fields in space One is using a technique and there's another
technique which is measuring plasma waves or radio waves and Fields for the first time brings these two
I think the very first data that we get will be revolutionary at first flush it'll just be a bunch of
numbers as a function of time but the team the science team will take those numbers and make
and make visualizations in the form of spectrograms and eventually those uh related to models and so we'll be able
to compare directly to three new visual models these measurements have never been made
similar to this in the Earth's magnetosphere or cyanosphere but putting a package like this
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as it crosses Venus's ionosphere
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it's cool it's real it's incredible yeah
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well hello everyone uh this is Scott Roberts from explore scientific and the
explore Alliance and this is our 44th Global star party uh this start party
includes our special guest hosts Azar brolo um who has invited some of his special
comrades and colleagues and friends as well as including regulars that you see on the
global star party and we're so excited to be here with everyone Stella Kafka is
with us Cameron Gillis we've got David Levy of course Cesar over there to the
left David eicher from astronomy magazine Libby and the Stars our youngest presenter John Johnson from the
Nebraska Star Party Carol orge from the astronomical league and Maxie Polaris is
did I pronounce that correct
from Argentina he's an astrophotographer you'll learn more about him later uh and
right now also with us uh although not showing his videos Adrian Bradley uh who
will be joining us uh and we have others too that will be coming on to the program but uh Caesar I want to
give you a little bit of an introduction Cesar has been
um uh you know an Enthusiast for optics for a very very long time he got into
astronomy by fixing a telescope that he broke uh that was uh one of his friends
telescopes and so he polished him a new mirror and since that time he's been involved in telescope Optics and
astronomy ever since uh he is also currently involved in renovating a
historic Observatory complex in Argentina which you'll talk more about in this program
um but uh uh Cesar I want to tell you it's an honor to have you on the program
uh his uh he set up this whole brand new broadcasting uh system uh so that he
could do this and it's working out just wonderful and so Cesar thank you so much
and I'm going to turn it over to you and let you take it away hi good night Scott everyone yes it's a
pleasure for me really to be a a co-host uh because it's a really a real great
honor because the the staff for of the the global party that
um you um and your staff was made a great great
work uh signs uh well 40 44 sir parties
Glovers or parties ago and for me it was a pleasure
um been a participant um uh well
be a part of Sir parties um it's it's great for me today an honor
of course uh I guess host and
um and yes like you told me is is uh
is have has a lot of years working in Optics and selling uh astronomical
products and repairing actually the the restoration of historical observatories
is is the the way that I'm where I was
involved in the last time uh you know that in the pandemic uh
um when it was great because uh we didn't have a lot of stock of telescope
in our companies to sell because we are waiting more stock and it's a great time
to to make another things in this time and
for me it's a great great um uh experience to to restore uh all
all telescope that have more that have more that 100 years old and really
um this telescope uh when they returned to to to life again it's amazing because
you can obtain beautiful image the beautiful of the
the of the equipment when you say when you discover the the quality when you
remove the dust of the all Optics it's amazing
and um well it's something like uh okay you
know it's it's something that is is amazing
um okay so would you like to um would you like to get started with uh
introducing David Levy and uh absolutely okay yes is this the thing that I say
okay now yeah for for me something that very short that I I need to say about
the levy that that I had the opportunity to say him today is that one of my
favorite books uh um is uh the the Spanish or the the
Argentina Edition is observation I think that in English is Skywatch uh
is was one of my best uh books to to
recommend to the people um um is that today
David's telling me that this for from 1994
um is something it's another thing more about the universe of David Levy it's
impossible to to explain how big is the the work of David Levy in in astronomy
and the support for the amateur astronomers David Levy okay it's your
your turn thank you so much Cesar and it's really a pleasure to be here
and um I'm very glad to be here I'm glad Stella is back with us tonight to
announce that the aavso is now going to be organizing a soccer team and uh maybe
later a baseball team and we're going to go into sports forget various we're going into Athletics now no
I was I was supposed to know about that hold on hahaha well
thanks Ella sorry about that anyway I want to welcome all of you and I'm glad
to see you all here tonight and speaking of the variable star soccer last night I
actually did an observation with a large photographic telescope of
uh Tomball Star TV corvy that I will be reporting to you in the next day or so
the star was not visible it hasn't been an outburst in some time but I was able to get the field and
uh also I did an hour 1.6 hours of visual comment hunting the night before
I did two hours of visual condimenting with this telescope and uh so I'm uh really happy to be able
to report that we've had some very fine weather lately anyway I'm usually read a poem or
something today I'm going to the poem is actually written by a very dear friend
of mine Peter jettiki and it's called the Supernova song
and uh it needs to be sung and the last time I sang something I know that all of
you on Zoom were throwing your computers out the window freaking at the top of your lungs please don't do that this
time unless you absolutely have to okay here it goes
the stars go now over one by one Kaboom Kaboom nucleosynthesis is done Kaboom Kaboom
shells of gastric Stones through space Distributing matter all over the place in the spiral arms are littered with
debris from the heavy elements are formed Kaboom Kaboom and from the Stellar cores
are torn Kaboom kaboom the supernovas dissipate with Fusion Energy help the
creativeness the stars go Nova in our galaxy
as years go by The Remnant spread Kaboom Kaboom but the universe is far from dead
Kaboom Kaboom to eliminate the tedium the interstellar medium forms the
molecules that make up you and me
beautiful beautiful really really beautiful it's it's so great listen I
think that's your best one yet David absolutely an observing song something you should
try to hunt Supernova yeah yes yes absolutely sure
well we are going to David Eye Care I have the the I was lucky in in uh one uh
time ago started to talk about humor and music with David with David many years
ago um for me was something like come on the director of astronomy is writing by
Facebook it's for me it was he's like a star he's a great musician he loved jazz
music like my father like me blues music is a genius and he
managed the direct the the best a beautiful uh magazine of astronomy that
is astronomy uh and it's a pleasure for me introduced and presenting to to David
daycare thank you very much Cesar it's a it's a real pleasure and an honor uh for me to
be here with you and and thanks for hosting tonight and I don't know how I can possibly follow David that was
spectacular yes well try something no problem this is a
tough assignment but I'm going to follow that uh great uh entertaining song which I think I heard quite some time ago I
remember the first time I heard David sing that it's a very memorable moment in my journey in astronomy
um but I'm going to talk a little bit about the universe's fate tonight where we're going we're getting toward the end
of these astrophysical subjects now of course astronomy and astrophysics have always been filled
with questions over the past generation as I've been talking about we've made a
lot of progress in understanding the answers to some of these big questions
one of the oldest uh undoubtedly I I would say stretching back to the earliest human times is what will become
of everything what's the fate of the universe it's Destiny
um you know we're on a journey to the universe's Destiny the the end whatever
it may be remember the words of George Carlin if you haven't arrived you're not
there yet you know so we're on a journey along with the universe to to what's become
going to become of it it's not an easy question to answer however what will happen to the universe
ultimately is we look into the cosmos of course we're looking back in time how to
look forward in time in Universal history is stupefyingly difficult but
it's something that cosmologists have worked on a lot in the last generation
to gauge the universe's future astronomers want to know all about the possible cosmological parameters that
exist and of course since the discovery of the evidence of the Big Bang in 1964
by penzius and Wilson we've had three really important cosmological satellites
that have measured a lot of properties of the universe so the most recent one being the Planck the European Planck
satellite and now we know we've already discussed in fact in the last few weeks here that
the universe is it's about 93 billion light years across at least and if uh
inflation theory is correct which we think it probably is the universe is
infinite in size so our murky understanding of the
contents of the universe is really critically linked to its fate as well
remember that Einstein's famous equation E equals m c squared tells us that
energy and mass are interconvertible forms of the same thing
as far as we know the cosmos and this is from the most recent data from Planck
the cosmos consists of 69 percent Dark Energy 26 dark matter and five percent
baryonic or normal matter which makes up all the stuff we're familiar with as as
normal humans stars planets galaxies cats dogs and trees included
of course the very discovery of dark energy in 1998 is closely linked to the
fate of the universe it tells us that not only is the universe expanding but
that that Universal expansion is accelerating over time
critically astronomers believe that dark energy is an intrinsic property of the
universe that is they believe it doesn't vary in localities over space or over
time if this is so it means that more and more Dark Energy will be created over
time in a sort of a runaway process and that means that connectivity will
not be able to overcome dark energy and somehow pull the universe back together
so we don't know for sure but the odds are certainly uh very much with a long
cool dark expansion that means the universe will expand
forever Cooling and eventually reaching a point of what cosmologists call heat death when there is no more molecular
motion at all this is a little bit of a post-dinner pick-me-up talk here I hope it's giving you a nice warm feeling
very special to any of our long long term descendants
so Scott you're in the telescope business at the right time yeah
and then it won't last I'm sorry it's not forever but you know what's a couple
of trillion years between friends I'll take it yeah yeah and we've already talked of course about
how on a on a local really local scale um just to make you feel have real
trouble sleeping tonight we have about a billion years or so left on this planet on Earth before the
oceans will boil off and that will kind of Ruin you know the whole weekend so but that's a long time for things like
us of course in the long future history of the
universe the remaining red dwarf stars will glow feebly from the bellies of
distant galaxies and any sentient beings around still around will only be able to
see their very local regions other scenarios do exist but what
cosmologists call the big freeze or the heat death of the universe uh is by far
the by far the most likely scenario now so you just so you don't really have to panic the the so-called heat death that
is the the final molecular motion in the panoramic movie of the universe that's
about 10 to the 100th power years away that's a very long long time longer than
those few trillion years that red dwarf stars can fuse
We Believe strange properties of dark energy could
change the scenario we don't really absolutely know yet but the evidence points to you a universe ending in a
cold Dark Lonely way as opposed to its energetic beginning with a so-called
Bang so that's kind of the dark and stormy uh
weather forecast for the far future of the universe but next week I I hope or
with our next star party I'll have sort of my final these are talks that I've sort of pulled out of this book that I
did called the new Cosmos for Cambridge press some years ago the final uh one I think will be the
next talk that I give that'll be a little more upbeat about the meaning of of it all the meaning of life in the
universe and and then Scott and I have a little bit of a surprise with a different direction of some things that
I'll be doing for a while on the broadcast so thank you very much thanks
Scott thanks W that song is spectacular again thank you so much Cesar
authorizing and for being our our main man tonight for me it's a pleasure thank
you so much by your your explanation about that energy that is all people's
ask all time about when you say something that yes I like us I like
astronomy tell me something about dark energy or well come on you explain very very well
there is a there's a question from the audience yes uh from Jeff wise he says
will Dark Energy get cold and darker Well here here's the the real rub in all
of this is we really don't know what dark energy is it's the the name it's the euphemism given to a force that is
pushing the acceleration of the expansion of the universe uh forward
um so we really don't know what it is if we can find out what it is there are many many this is the central question
uh along with dark matter being worked on by cosmologists cosmology groups
around the world uh that that's a guaranteed Nobel Prize I think if you can discover that what really the nature
of dark energy is um it is a force now remember energy and
mass are are different things and and they interact in different ways so for example dark matter doesn't interact in
a in even though we believe it's probably subatomic particles they they don't interact in the same way that
normal matter does or with normal matter so it's a very sticky question in terms
of what the behavior of dark energy is and in fact if you talk to some of the discoverers one of them being Alex
filipenko who wrote the forward by the way for this book um who's at Berkeley uh he says such
exotic things as you know if the polarity of dark energy changes it could
affect the outcome of the universal expansion so the short answer is we
don't know um the answer to the question and you know we'll we'll certainly find out a
lot more I think even in our lifetimes about what it is but it is a it's a very
mysterious force that we only understand the basics about right now
yeah excellent yes excellent it's not something that people say okay is it
that is the dust dark clouds No it's a mathematic thing is
something that that's right yeah yes it's part of an equation where you have
okay you need about to to exist um the dark matter to to to complete the
equation of the universe that's right and and it's in there some degree in the same bucket dark energy and dark matter
and black holes are are more or less in the same yeah we have indirect very
strong extraordinarily widespread enormous indirect evidence that these
all exist but we don't have a lot of direct evidence for any of these things yet so but so the evidence we know
they're incontrovertible that these exist but we don't know really about the nature of them entirely and how they
behave uh and that's sort of the next uh Epoch to come of cosmology's Journey we
hope and we hope that's within our life it would be fascinating to find out the big answers uh to these questions yes is
it is amazing it's incredible because it's their really big big questions
well thank you David I don't know if um if uh from the audience we have
another another more question if uh no not yet yeah yeah but I'm sure the gears
are turning out there they're loving the variety of the program they love David's
song they love that you're the special guest host uh so
so let's just keep it going okay I do have one question
um trying to form it and make it quick because I know we'll have to move on to the next but we talked about the Big Rip
yeah um David in your um presentation the Big Crunch is
another theory that's thrown out there um is that losing
popularity amongst and I say popularity probably the wrong word is it losing in
you know probability based on observation
um and you know the the uh discovery of dark energy and how it better explains
what's going on in the universe that's a really good question Adrian and and uh the short answer is yes it has
lost a lot of steam and a lot of momentum now that goes back the Big Crunch that the Universe the gravity is
is significant for us such that the universe will come back will fall back
on itself um really goes back in into its height of popularity to the the so-called
steady state Theory when it was competing with the big bang um and you know Fred Hoyle and others
were promoting this business of you could have repeated bangs and then gravity brings all this stuff back and
you have another bang and it's another universe and so on it goes on and on and on the evidence is pointing away from
that but but we don't know in an absolute sense and and again as philipenko talks about the nature of
dark energy could affect something like that but the evidence leans towards
saying that their gravity is not uh as as significant of force as you
would need to be able to have a big crunch and from also from what we see uh
dark energy is added to the equation as as the volumetric aspect of space
increases and as time goes on which would also work against that big crunch
but you know we don't know absolutely for sure it's just leaning the odds are
leaning against that now good question yeah yes really really
amazing and there is something called The Dark Energy spectroscopic instrument
do you know much about that David well and there are a lot of dark energy surveys in fact the four meter telescope
at kit Peak and and the blanco telescope down south in Chile are both working uh
very much on dark energy as well doing surveys of many galaxies
um simultaneously in a huge area of Sky um and Spectra of them and and seeing if
there can be some effect uh noted of what dark energy is doing to recessional
velocities so so there there are surveys that are gearing up some of them and
some of them that are active and you know both as I say both at kit Peak and Saratoga there's a lot going on already
with them um and the hope is that those Galaxy Spectra will shed additional light on
the nature of dark energy especially over time with surveys of many many
fields of those distant galaxies I love the way you you constructed that
last sentence at a clear blue out of thin air absolutely that's why you are
an amazing writer David well you know yes you know the the you know talking about dark energy and dark matter we're
on you know thin ice in terms of certainty here that that's the only problem but but there's a hell of a lot
of research going on about it yeah that's cool that's great
okay okay thank you thank you David it was an
amazing an amazing explanation because it's so hard to understand and you
explain with a Simplicity unfortunately my my the English is not
my first language but I understood everything and because it was very very
clear yes you are a great writer I know thank you so much thank you thank you
bless you uh well we are going to uh Maxi valeres
from from Argentina from my country he is an example of amateur astronomer that
started I remember the day that he started to to write me something about question about eyepiece and news and
using a smartphone I think that was three years or four years ago I don't remember
and we started to to talk about something of Optics how to to improve
much further the eyepiece the the pupil
diameter or RX or public exit of the telescope with the the smartphone he
understand he understood understood everything and started to make pictures
and they ex their experience about to make especially nebulas that is not
easy to to to take pictures of nebulas with uh smartphones and he do it okay
okay hi Max hi Maxi how are you como estas
hi everyone thank you for inviting me tonight uh I'm from chilikoi promise Argentina
almost a 170 kilometers from buenos Aire from Cesar
so I how tall
and right now uh I started three years ago
during I want to start to take pictures of this
guy when I was a little boy but three years ago I started to practice when a smartphone
that let me say uh
I can talk or hold the phone above the the ocular or eyepiece so I buy
this grab to to hold it so
I started to take pictures of the moon for example that's something maybe easy oh but I was whoa the Moon
but then I realized with my brother that we
can take pictures of nibulas or deep space objects because we are in summer
at that time and the the smartphone from the AI by a few months ago
I can take pictures of 30 seconds so
we talk about it and they say why not we
if we had a following Mount to that
object and start to maybe two or five seconds of pictures
and we start to to take it to M4 a m42 or the Orion
Nebula and we couldn't believe what we saw
in a smartphone right there so that gave me encourage to to continue
then I spoke to Caesar and when only in the timing from internet and I
asked I asked him a few questions about Dr or the eyepiece so
then a I continuing I changed the amount I
I realized that I have to take more pictures of and more time of exposure so
I can give more information to that piece uh if you let me I can show you
some works that I did let me yeah share your screen yes
so this is a lot of my work this is the example of what I did within Max suit of
telescope that the focal length is very large but with a 25 IPS I hold the phone
so with the mode um a very
important yes
or if it's a go-to is is a go-to alignment yes and you can see this very
maximiliano sorry to interrupt yeah I think you're not sharing you're not sharing the screen yes you need to
choose the viewer the photo viewer because we are watching I don't know if if okay actually we are
uh we are only see the thumbnails okay okay yes you can choose the photo viewer
where you can and then we can see the the complete your complete uh yes let me
see no the doubly if not yes don't worry every yeah
I started a few months one time but sorry yeah these are these are
definitely impressive and the fact that you're getting in with a cell phone um I'll let go ahead and finish your
presentation but um I uh I am very impressed with your
persistence in getting these images um and they are turning out really well thank you thank you camera
uh I don't know how to do you have you have the option in Zoom to to choose
this uh the windows option for ah rest yes it's like the photo view where they
another or make double click again I think he
just has to click on a photo and then it'll expand try again if no no it's not it's not the
is uh we have to choose you you have to choose the the Nepali here sorry that is
a little thing in Spanish
yes do you happen to share share screen do you have an option
it doesn't share it uh yes
so we are seeing the photos the photos Okay
but maybe yeah I'm seeing I was seeing the photos and now I just see something
yeah okay
okay we have the technology all right yes yes we had the same program with me
with everyone yes you are not the first okay yes
no no no no no you're already I'm not the first
let me chime in when we are at real star parties it is not uncommon for those
with the gear to struggle hold flashlights up to an hour trying to
figure out how things are going and meanwhile the sky is just rolling along and you're frustrated so this is like a
real star party it happens all the time yes absolutely it's not like a real star party it is a
real star party you got that's right Scott this is a
real virtual but still real but really carry on right that's why we are humans
no rabbits that's right that's right nice all right carry on thank you thank
you okay just like I said this is the maximum telescope that I use and I have
the the cell phone we're up to the 25 IPS and my smartphone this is a Huawei
P10 Plus uh and I can say in this case pictures
about uh 30 seconds like I said and in raw format that is amazing so the the
the the image has a lot of information so this is an example of what I could
take with this case what no no yeah
this is why I invited to maxi
like that with a very nice camera you know not just a no yeah
yes yeah I yeah for those that are all watching what they are seeing is
they're seeing a minimal setup that isn't is expensive and is getting them
images exactly um
from the commercial type of things that for this thing you can with a little
less of money take pictures and do astronomy
everywhere you are I love it I love it I
I love it too interested in astronomy you know so that's you know if they can
start with a smartphone exactly a very inexpensive telescope and I'm talking
about a very inexpensive one shots like that okay uh uh they'll stay in astronomy all
their lives I mean that that is fantastic and this is uh so we gave courage to other ones to do you can do
this and you can progress about it and and that's what I'm throwing in right
now I am with a dcrl camera guiding with a big
app for status communion but in the beginning
for me this was the blown mine okay and
then I can do this with the same
thing this is the name the planetary
incredible with it in my backyard here in chiragoi
with a UHC filter only and taking about
30 minutes we're starting to get some questions
here and I should probably read some of them yes um uh Maxie are you using the native
phone app or are you using nightcap well I started with the the native app of my
phone but then I found a an app called a deep
Sky deep Sky camera that in I think it's in beta version
right now but helps helps a lot to do more pictures
and do um because the phone doesn't have an intervalometer so I have I was
a through very colonized with a selfie
stick clicking every time I I heard the
the picture so I was to be there that
with this app helped me to do a for
um 200 300 pictures of 30 seconds and start
to take yes and in real formats yeah
and helps to do more in the
um they're setting up yeah yeah
so that's a very good app and for now I think it's free version and it says how
long say how long time can your phone take pictures and what
format um for example my brother asks Huawei age mate but he can take a eight second
features and I can take 30 seconds yeah and that's a lot okay but but okay and
what is what is the name of the app again deep Sky a camera you can okay okay
well this is a doing with the telescope
okay but I can do it with a the with the same app that I did
and I think it's called you will like this photo and this I was taken last
year in July in the outside of my city uh with the same
cell phones the same smartphone yeah without Telescope yes wow exactly and I
say maybe 30 minutes or 30 seconds at what um one thousand six ISO but now you can
see here it's Jupiter of Yuki and uh Laguna
and yes it's the center of Milky Way it's amazing
and another galaxy here with the same telescope
the sculpture Galaxy yeah the smartphone with s Marathon yes
they also fantastic
small but [Music] depends of the objects and the the
magnitude I I chose this that goes very well with
the thought yeah do you have a planetary planetarium picture that are incredible
yes I do with the phone two types of photos this was DSO oh this guy objects
and planetary objects you can do it too uh
I remember someday I woke up and I talked with friends from an astronomy
club and I said if you can do pictures of in Jupiter Saturn with a
webcam why you can do it with a smartphone or a cell phone
so I grabbed my cell phone and all cell phone
and I want to show you what I did this is the cell phone
this arm and I removed the camera
so remove this of the camera this is terrible part right you can see
the sensor yes okay so when I put all again I see this and I
really oh I broke it but no so I put it on well I did this uh with a
silicon holder and with a this is for
the younger the the oldest yes yes
a film camera film case yes come out
fixed very well in in the in the eyepiece so I put it in the Mexico and
this is where to get focused and this is
uh yes and you can see the the world yeah trees
okay so the Night Comes and now you have to try it
here's a Jupiter wow and here's what I see that's big
image scale so I started to in this case do uh
recording videos to with a planetary camera yes exactly so
this is what I do
oh fantastic oh no I think there's some jealous people here this is really good
no yes one of the people in the audience
tonight is Mike Wiesner and Mike Wiesner is very big on smartphone astrophotography and uh I think he's
duly impressed so it's another to me to hear that yes
so then of this results um I buy another Huawei P10 plus that
the camera was broken it can go Focus so I well I did the same thing with the Sun
okay this is obviously with the other filter but this is a spot of the Sun
incredible that's very very impressive do you have do you have
a new one with some some uh prominence solar prominence I don't know no no
submission of how many how many hairs okay sorry that was another thing very
interesting but like a like a comparing yeah no but this is this is the the
solar filtering set that amount that they that they send you yeah
this
a question I have will Samsung still cover the warranty if you tear the lens
out of the camera so I did that with a all this does that
fall under the same thing as like water damage or something like that I don't know
we don't know if if Maxi really broke this form uh uh or is was only an
accident I think that maybe you you I'm sorry it's broken
and the phone was hooked to the internet this is not a Hubble Space Telescope image right no no no no
I can't I can show you the a lot of gigabytes that I record the same yeah
yeah it's amazing yes thank you yeah so should we give uh should we give a
disclaimer that iPhone users are still as yet out in the cold because we can't
do this just yet [Laughter] [Music] um
I don't know it's great but but you could buy a very inexpensive smartphone
and uh or get a used one and tear it apart well yes right the last year I I
buy another Huawei P10 plus that the camera was broken and yeah how I can
recall in 4k format uh then I can compress a lid a little
bit and I started to do the rotation with with shoopers and other programs I
and I changed in this case the the telescope I I use a
um F5 F5 telescope but when I see these
storms and this is how my mind was blow up oh my God absolutely and you
maybe this is not the the wall picture
but you you can still do it astronomy and I'm still recording every year of
Saturn the changing of of the Rings thinking exactly about this and of orbit
okay and you can see in 2018 the the little shell and the ring but don't see
the planet in this case you can see the Shadow the ring decrease but you can see
that then last year change it you can see the planet and the ring was the
exactly and this year it goes a lot well this was the tour of July a eclipse
from here I have the opportunities so see here in my city but you can see the
grounds I was with my family my brother Christian my dad my mom and I'm friends
yes where where was not total eclipse because in civil court you had a little
no it was totally but the the clouds
yes where San Juan was taught ah yes yes no this last year if not though yes the
first one yeah yes yes excellent excellent Max this is by pressure still
a great capture you caught it just says it was a coming out of the clouds you were able
to get something in the dining effect that's awesome that's good I remember to see this black
hole above you can see the trees it was above the Horizon and they close above
of me and was surrealistic that was amazing that's
and it's greatly expert expiration
and this is to the the last year I do with Mars
the a few months continuing and
doing with the cell phone oh that's nice progression yes with the
Year we're passing by with our orbit to the opposition to the most uh closest
point and the details of Mars I remember was when I was a kid in
2003 in August the the news will say yes Mars is going
to view a very big and I ran out with my
telescope status experience very inspiring really really
Maxis every time that Maxi put something posting something in in in
Facebook the people say wow Max is amazing and I know that with when Maxi
started people say no so photography is very serious business
camera blah blah blah big telescope and say it I say him come on Maxi try it we
do have a cell phone please tell me how because I never tried with cell phone uh
and it's it's a really a great great and crashing two correction people to
another another people well thank you Maxi yeah well let me show you guys if
you want to follow me this is my last word yeah I'd like to follow you so yeah
I was looking for your for your screen name so I could put it in those are
beautiful pictures thank you thank you a lot this is a personal Instagram but I
do a lot of astronomers as through photography and I want to thank you
Caesar I want to thank you Scott yeah thank you thank you to you yeah you're
welcome on the show anytime so uh just uh um you know I'll get with uh
Cesar and we will um get your email address and get you on the Eagles yeah celebrity group okay
okay okay okay I I I'm glad yeah yeah uh there's nice comments lots of sorry if
my English it wasn't oh no no problem I can't really speak English that well so
you know don't worry and we are we are the global star party
so this is uh we have people uh that speak all kinds of languages and
um uh you're doing a good job thank you thank
you we have the same sky and thank you again and I want to say
um
I found you on Instagram Maxie so uh you just got a bunch more likes oh thank you
Adrian well uh we are going to Eric Gonzalez
Eric Gonzalez is an professional uh astronomer here in Argentina actually
well actually by the the lockdown the pandemic I don't know uh how when he
returned returned to the mountain to the observatory but actually I saved because
everywhere is the same uh work uh in the cesco observatory in the
um uh um complex uh Felix Aguilar astronomic
astronomical complex tell me if if it's okay Eric is it's like the com the name
of the astronomical complex is Felix Aguilera or the observatorius Felix Aguilar or this was only the
of course yes the Dynamics is correct I work at observatorio astronomical Felix
cellular Felix astronomical Observatory and we had cesco station that is the
um the you know the one part of the observatory that we have in in the mountains not in
the Andes Mountains ranged but in front of it in what we call the precorded a
smaller range of mountains uh just in front of it well
um first of all a couple of work for Maxi as we say in Spanish
yes yes you don't have a pronunciation
because it's not that uh explicit word if not it's something like like
um uh how do you say it's it's a it's a slang yeah yeah
really great yes yes Eric
um Gonzalez well you are the the uh the one of the astronomers working in
investigation with uh with a very particular telescope that the use no oh
yes I do research um with the with a small telescope we
call it a oafas for representative a double astrograph was formally known
as Yale though Yale dog scrap from University of Yale and Colombia that they installed it in the 1960s on the
end of the mountains um but well we started working with with
Yale Observatory and Colombia indeed the late 70s and 80s I wasn't born here but
we I say we because of what my UPS are sorry took part of it and
as late as 2014 you know 16 just a few
years ago they donated the telescope when the campaign ended of course I'm in
love with that instrument but looking at Max's photographs now I'm
I'm thinking of leaving professional astronomy and start a baking company or
make cherry buns sandwiches because let me share some picture here
um let me open it okay yes yes let's share your screen
today today I tried to explain uh that you are the
director of the barbecue in our star parties and
that will be a much more profitable career right now because if you look at
the screen now uh you see a not so beautiful picture of NGC
253 yes cops or Galaxy it's a can you see it yes
all right uh yeah so you can see it
and now we can't
I don't know is is giving the connection
yes if the connection was lost uh maybe maybe maybe because
I I see the name his number but I don't have maybe lost the connection for video
or something he could um he could log back on
it should not be a problem uh yes we we can uh if we we can uh change
the the desk though no problem of course okay I send a what's up and then we'll
get back to um Levy yep in the Stars Livia are ready
yes thank you Libby was born ready yeah yes
you you say something real Adrian yes this is she's a genius really uh you
today you're you uh uh asked about you have a presentation
and tell us about the M51 Galaxy
uh do we do can you hear me
hi okay
it's all about very loudly okay if we can hear you
yes I we can hear you I can hear you too uh tell me do you have a presentation about
uh M51 Galaxy yes I'm going to go ahead
and share that okay
episode I pronounce Messier is Messier or so I know there's a lot of different
ways to say messy Messier I know there's Messier
something that I'm just gonna say Messier because I know there's a lot of different like ways to say so I've
always said Messier Messier Messier 58 so basically uh it is
also known as the whirlpool Galaxy because as you can see in the pictures it looks like a Whirlpool Galaxy if you
haven't seen a whirlpool in the in a lake or the ocean maybe or even a pool
or even a hot tub or anything of water um
I found this really cool I actually have a list of the um catalogs
the Messier catalog which is made by Charles Messier back in the 17th almost
18th century um which is a list of all the great things preserved in the northern
hemisphere all the galaxies and nebulizers and so this is the 50 the
51st on the list so is now known as messy as a Feeling
so um it is not as a Whirlpool Galaxy it looks
like a whirlpool and um I've actually have a list by um whenever
showing the astronomical League I got a list of um the messier objects and I'm making that
my goal in the next five years deserve almost all of them
and keep record of them so this is definitely one of my ways and um
it is uh located 31 million light years from Earth and the consulate near the
constellation contains minutes to see when I looked at the um picture of the
sky it didn't look really part of it and just looked very near to it and between Ursa Major
and um so the appearance of it so you can see it has two little arms sticking
out in the side and um if you think about the gravity of it I I've always been taught there's like a
gravitational blanket and basically all the stuff all the heavier stuff goes in
the middle kind of like a solar system a little bit so it looks a little bit like a whirlpool and that's the way it goes
and so you can see that two arm three two net here and um this little arm over here is where a lot
of stars are born it's a um very popular place in the full nebula for all the
stars to be evening so basically inside the nebula well not
the menu but the Galaxy um it's a lot of Netherlands and galaxies here um
there are a lot of solar systems in each heavy Galaxy I think galaxies are
amazing thing to deserve because um there's nebulas near to it and stuff
like that there's a solar system inside and stars make up this so when you look
inside a Galaxy you're seeing a bunch of stars and you're seeing a bunch of
medellinic that's what I call it I don't really know how to pronounce it
um clouds around it and that's what makes it up basically so um as I was saying a lot of Stars Are
Born over here this is not a very high quality photo um the other one was that you can see
down here it is a lot more brighter because there are more stars born on there in the middle of it
um also in DC 55195 is located very close to it too so
when you look at it in the sky it'll be in the northern hemisphere because it is on the Messier list
so um is since it was on the next year list it is in Northern Regency of the
sky so when you look at a star map for the northern hemisphere
basically Ursa Major is very close to it too and
um and so is Payne's menace to see so uh
in DC 5195 is close to it too so it's kind of in that area and
um I think that the um I think my next presentation when I was doing this slide
I was like I've got to do a presentation I know we all love deserving the night
sky and we all love the stars but we gotta know how all our stars were discovered in the sky and who discovered
the stars in our sky and um that was the list of messier objects and
I was like okay the next presentation I do is going to be a huge presentation about messio updates because I think
that's very cool because it was discovered while it was being put into the list of messier objects it was
discovering night in 1773 so that's a long long time ago
so think how long ago that was and there was technology out there to
find it that early on there was technology out there to find it find it
in the sky and stuff like that that long ago and um
so I hope to observe this in the next five years because um I remember when I joined
astronomically they gave me a booklet about messier objects and I didn't really know a lot about
what messier objects was I was like what is this like what are what is this so I
read the whole little book about it and I was like oh my gosh this is amazing because I'm like Evan is there I'm gonna
make a goal to observe every single Messier object from two 100 in the next
five years or at least get to 100 on my list and hopefully I get to this soon
I'm gonna start my list from this chronovirus is over so hopefully I can
share it with some of my friends who like to go camping and go camping and be able to share this and
hopefully once all this mess is over we will have a really huge Star Party the
biggest star party ever recorded all together the people on this call all together the biggest that are probably
ever after quarantine and um we can all observe Messier 51.
so that's what I have for today um next time I'm gonna I have my list that I'm still speaking
to a lot but I decided I'm gonna break free for once and I'm gonna do a messy list Craig by Charles Messier
and that's your catalog and hopefully get over that some next talk
wonderful wonderful really very well done well done really Libby you're a genius
come on yes 11 years old come on the kids at your
age today I I uh many times I watched that I
recommend the the the the lecturer professor of physics astrophysics Daniel
who's the the last name of Daniel that today he made a presentation Scott
um foreign
teach us about the the his presentation are amazing um for but normally for for uh maybe you
know maybe that the question that uh that your your classmates make to you
about uh I don't know above galaxies maybe if come on if the who is the the
typical things when that you need to explain more to your classmates
um I think um I'm actually trying to uh move to a new school and they actually have um a
show me classes there coming soon so I'm very excited about that because yeah my
whole entire life in school life just been in like a normal school and all
they teach you in school all you have to know to get an A and and planetary science is you got a name
you gotta know that there's seven things in the solar system uh and then a moon
orbit test that's all you have to know in school for all I've learned over the
years and I thought that this needed to be a lot more expanded in schools and definitely a lot more chat in schools
and I think that a lot of maths and history too should be taught because um
I think a lot of NASA history inspired me you know that Apollo Astronauts and
first people out in space and the space race all the way back then and
all that historical stuff because they don't teach you a lot about that in school all they tell you is three people
visited the moon in 1969 there were seven planets in the solar system and
you got an eight plus in that so I definitely make it it needs to be a little bit more challenged and more like
black holes and nebulas need to be taught and absolutely yes it's outside the program
in in 11 years old maybe because you are you are thinking in in black holes or
dark matter and yes and yes it's normal everywhere for the for the the primary
schools
so I've been watching and listening to Libby um for the last uh Scott remind me four
or five kind of episodes and I have to tell you that she is hands down
one of the young leaders of her generation I would agree yes I agree too
and no matter what she decides to do in the future in terms of professional
career astronomy or non-astronomy she's already a leader and a winner so I am
very grateful that she's spending her time and her energy with us tonight and
every Tuesday because honestly I am really enjoying her I I hope that more
young women follows Libby's example yes and also
um more of us and kura's young women like Libby to be at the Forefront of
discussion Discovery and this and pretty much everything when it comes to astronomy so honestly Libby I wish I was
as smart and Savvy as you are at your age uh but you know something I'm very
very grateful to know you and I am looking forward to seeing your evolution
in time I mean um you know something you guys this is how leaders are being born
this is how they develop and opportunities like this uh this one
I are um key to make them shine
yes yes if I was gonna like take over like
astronomy in schools I would at least for my grade being in fifth grade at
least by the end of the year have the small concept of what a nebula is Elite
I'll leave that
that um I had to study a lot by myself and pushed myself to the limit to be able to
understand like black holes and stuff because my school wasn't teaching this and I know we do have a lot of science
class and it's more um Planet related or we would do these huge activities on
growing plants and I'm like okay I know how a plant grows let's get on
the super metal beds and nebulas and I think that's very important to teach people because a lot of people think
that it's all fake and people always see it and TV or cartoons and all those
movies and they're like oh it's all fake it's just us we're all just
the Milky Ways all there is the space there's so much more of those
I'm gonna share a personal story with you the first time um I had lots of
physics and math and biology and chemistry classes when I was in high
school and middle school high school um of course I grew up in Greece so it's a different system but I had one
astronomy class when I was in 11th 11th grade in the U.S
system right and I remember I was the only person in my class paying attention to the classes
everybody else was thinking that this oh it's just an easy class just have fun
and I remember asking my professor who was a physicist one question once I
asked him what was the composition of Saturn's rings
and he said I do not know and that hurt at the very deep level
because I grew up in a big city I had never seen Saturn through a telescope up
to that point and I was like you know something I'm gonna find out because there's no way you can't no there's no
way you know this information doesn't exist so for me it was a matter of curiosity
and stubbornness but what I see in you is also promise and also this kind of
innate Explorer curiosity that made the the first people
who did the first things shine so keep on it girl and you never think that any
of us can be of Hell of you reach out I really want to find a lot of girls my
age instead of show me all over the world I mean meaning deeply like oh my
gosh there's someone in my age Gap who loves to do astronomy
and he's interested in the showing me and um
five years apart from me but I'm like oh my gosh it's amazing because it's like
I went to space camp and um last year I got to go to space camp and
I get a chance to go again this year and um just seeing kids my age who wanted to
talk about astronomy and all this like all about many lives and in 51 that I
was talking about and galaxies and exploring the universe and telescopes
was just amazing because you don't get that every day where I live it's just all you hear is yeah
I wanted to talk astronomy I'm like I wanna um
pour a pack of people my age who are into astronomy and start that because
I definitely think her generation means the way wake up call and astronomy because you're here you know they're
sending people up in this space as hotels and people aren't realizing that and
I think that it needs to be greater realized that and I think more people need to appreciate wet mass is doing to
do all this cool space room and stuff and definitely the people who are doing
all reserving it through telescopes and sharing that too and all the Outreach because I think that's what inspires
people and I think a lot of my age Gap but is not interested in that and they
don't see that a lot because school is not teaching them that all they're being teached is like oh here's a plant
photosynthesis and you graduate science for your whole entire life
great you know something well you're making a difference and we will all be
there to support you so back to Cesar uh thank you Libby for everything thank you
Stella By the words and thank you Levy by your presentation and your words too
it's a honor have a a a gray
girl but it's a great gear she she's you're a genius and really it's a great
honor support here to your work is amazing really right and May the force
be with y'all we are returning to Eric Gonzalez
um and well Eric you are show us a picture of a galaxy in your work in your
in your uh astronomical facilities in the Cisco in the FedEx Aguilar
Observatory well yes first I was amazed with the with Max's pictures and knowing a bit a
little bit jealous of of Libby and I want to go to space camp so for me to leave it really you're
awesome uh you you're gonna make friends wherever you go and if you can come here to Argentina
did also always open for you um so what I'm going to do now it's uh
do a bit of um a lot of Summer promotion of their my
working Place yeah um because Stella you come you may find
this interest instrument interesting let me share the picture
um here don't know if you can see it
uh do you see a big tube with a couple lenses in there yes we can see yes oh awesome well they
paid me for playing with that so um that is the the Yale's Global
astrograph those are two hub for meter lens um the ccds that go with those those
telescopes are a lot older a lot more primitive that Maxis
cell phone cameras uh but we are using them now to to do a
survey for variable stars and well also asteroid transits and look for asteroids
and comets and whatever we can catch in the frames because we have a
those have a five by five degree field of view if you can use the whole the
whole frame the whole field of view of the lenses with the ccds that we have
now is just one degree by one degree just that with the size of the CCD
because I know that is really different is it that all technology but the size
is incredible well yes about two hands one design of the other
um this is impressive yes their the brand is exhibition that the brand does
not exist anymore uh they are four thousand and ninety six by four thousand
and ninety six pixels the 15 Micron pixels of size Square
um yes they're they're really big massive we call them with a with an air
compressor that it's broken right now so the last few months and almost almost
all the pandemic we have been sitting in in our hands as we say here
um but anyway we have the couple terabytes of data from 2017 and 2018 to
to analyze um so so well we haven't we have some work to
do with that but once it's working again we will be searching for aebe variable
stars um I have taken an interest in those cars from talks to with Jaime Garcia I
don't know if you know it Small die a long period funny guys well
thing is um I'm gonna share some a little bit inside the story from
this telescope and from the script of my of my present Direction here
um this telescope was installed by a university and they put if you see the
picture two smaller auxiliary telescopes there and in the main trainer the
optical train of this telescope these big one telescopes we have another two
ccds two small and really old is mixed four Focus okay they installed some
prisms in there and made some measures and when you see the
you see a an image of a star multiplied by four and you put them as
close as they as they come in before of them and you have the telescopic Focus right that is awesome really easy to do
from the computer and well it turns out it didn't work well
that system was failing uh from five or
six years ago a lot before I am working on this telescope from three years ago from 1904
years now 1917 and it wasn't working well so we thought that we had this
telescope in focus and he is it was a little bit out of
focus most of the measures meant of of seeing in this Observatory uh came from
these telescopes from the different Business Report so we had we thought that we have a fairly good sky with
um to 1.7 to 2.0 uh
art seconds of sync disk and once the another telescope that is
Master a Russian telescope didn't show a big show your picture here that one that little skill that little scope
um they started taking images for images from the sky and started measuring 1.0
0.7 1.4 Arc Second Step thing it was that is an amazing quality of Sky there
um well there's uh turns out that the one of the CCD cameras
but we used to focus a broke down so start focusing manually and yes they were right
we have been using the telescope uh all the focus for the last eight to seven
years or more or less um as uh most side story about this
telescope that you are looking at now um do you remember in 1917 the Optica of
the the gravitational waves that legal detected and then yeah fermine orbit so
I don't don't remember if a few seconds later the gamma ray burst
well the abyss telescope that Russians have in our Observatory [Music]
was placed for precisely for that to look at the optical counterpart of the
gamma ray burst and this was the by half a second the first one in
detecting the optical counterpart after that another 70 telescopes around the
around the world but but well that was that took part of the
most of the event in astronomy so far
well so um what I'm going to show you here is
mostly my playground the thing is that this telescope is once you give me give
it a script for the night so it goes from origin to region taking taking
exposures um you can leave it working by itself so
what I do is take the camera or use and Piggyback in the telescope like this or
put um you see a 12 inch telescope piggy bucket in the the main main tube here
and use it for astrophotography so what most people hear that you have excellent
astrophotographers here do is approach astronomy from this amateur side of
restaurant astronomy first yes um well I studied sophistics in the
University first and became an amateur later in fact Cesar has been uh at my side
most of the process so I I really really learned a lot from
him um for example oh well that is a lesser
ranges uh subtle ranging laser telescope that we have there living in the future
is awesome we fire a laser from this small Canyon here at the side um with
that 60 centimeter telescope we captured the light poles as it returns uh measure
the time that it takes to go and go up and down and
we determine the position of the satellite on the on the station in the telescope with less than 15 millimeters
error from the measure respect the respecting center of the earth so this
is a really powerful geodesic Tool uh you can you can measure great
continental drift land plant tides and such with that and
that is the main work that we do in this in this Observatory actually and
about to change fields to that because of this that is that it's going to be the
largest radio telescope in South America uh 40 meter dish Argentina radio
telescope and they are installing it right beside my office there in Cisco
station at the side of the of the double luster work so we are going to have
access to this instrument uh hopefully very soon well
and what we do when we are not working on that is as I said a bit of
astrophotography and this work as has allowed me to really enjoy this habit
that that picture of the of the solar eclipse of July the second
in 2019 was taken with
let me see the look at the uh or this where is it
hear this uh Scott don't hit me yes you can see this you can see that
yes for yes please show I I'll send you this picture to Sherry because Sherry
yes yes the the x is 100 I say to to Eric okay don't put a lot of weight Eric
but maybe he understands no yeah yes and work yes
it looks like you um took a wildlife camera and adapted it
for the uh Sun yes and this objective is is one maybe
exists one or two in the world this is Nikon objective is is cameras
is unique because well Nikon manufactured a couple
thousands of this but we have two prototypes we have two prototypes uh
from this lens one of those were was brought to Argentina by Max Planck
Institute to take pictures of how they commented the 1980s
1995 and the other one was sold to a German filmmaker that modified the
camera uh adapted to 50 millimeter film and sold it to Stanley Kubrick he
shot some of Berglund with with these members with the system with the sister
lens and I got to play with it I found it in the Museum of the observatory and
asked hey can I use it no it's absolutely told me next thing next thing
I got a Nikon camera borrowed from my friend try and try the on and it works so
later I bought the most the best and most chips the cheapest nickelbacker
bikes and there it is I use it to follow the rough solar eclipses wonderful
I got to play with these toys I really didn't expect that when I when I got in astronomy I thought that what I was
going to do research and who knows what I was in luck with star formation and
now I'm doing more more Outreach and astrophotography than research
so I use these lenses mounted on the piggy
bucket on the double Astro graph and when we get 2.2 interest in the area
uh I put the the camera and yes like
let me get the photo but it's something that is amazing that your place for a
piggyback is a professional instrument really oh yeah
yeah the diving is good actually The Guiding is a incredibly good guys in a
cracking uh yes and a professional sky with a very very low yes yes something
that that is not not regular that that the the astronomers professional make a
piggyback with their another telescopes or cameras over a professional
instruments really you change the the things in this Observatory uh yeah
yes maybe they don't understand and say okay I may have to come down and just do a personal inspection just to make sure
it's working okay
that's awesome to come to sleep and we have a barbecue place so yeah good very
good yeah yes is it Eric a great a great supporter of our parties
in Mendoza he's every year he
present a very interesting work of the last year of course that that he
invented he's the creator of the barbecue at 4 em please any of everybody
became our to yes people that like to come to our surprise yes don't forget
before the observation and the astrophotography at cuatro em we forem
sorry we have uh the barbecue special BBQ yes
it's barbecue yeah barbecue yes yeah what happened is that I started doing
some social chorizas we call them yes yes
this is currently the smell of the of the cells such as the right to the area
where the telescope were and suddenly I have a line of 15 to 20 or 25 people
waiting for a chorizo it's actually fun and the telescopes go
go take care of himself that's great platform went completely
deserted and where yeah we're really hungry Jaime Garcia hosts that start
party and he does a great job organizing it and there was over great food great
music from early dinner to to the breakfast
that we had to fill it with something and there is nothing best in the world
than that a really great choice at 4am
yeah yes is it thank you Eric was a
great presentation of your work uh of course that if Levy one time you be came
from Argentina you you can be invited to the this of a professional Observatory
because Eric there is is a great worker astronomer
professional and take this that this is real we we can make all arrangements to
that you can visit the this professional observatories oh you can come to this oh
yes one of course that of course that it is is for Levy and for everyone here of
course yeah Cameron and I want to come too
we wanna we wanna go to the southern you know it's one of my goals to uh image in
the southern hemisphere I don't care if I have a grainy noise-filled image of an upside
down Milky Way I would at least have that and I would just start from there that in the Southern Cross or my only
two goals to start with and then after that and depending on how much more time
I would have yeah so we um yeah we'll have to see what the world has been that
holds definitely and uh see if we can hopefully we can travel again soon maybe within a year
I have to tell you the southern hemisphere is magic I mean uh
when there's no full moon you can read the headlines of a newspaper under the
light of the Milky Way galaxy it's it's well it's I know it's overwhelming and
at some point it's very soul-searching sorry my puppy has a different
um so I hear there are some places there are some places uh in America where that
is supposed to also be the case um I'm going to one in uh in October
there's uh the western part of the state kind of uh where you off Arizona this is
uh Oklahoma and Texas the Border there they're supposed to be from really dark skies so I'm going to put that I'm going
to take something and put it to the test out there as well um I'm gonna have to do more images of
the big and little dipper because the North Pole stars get no love the
southern stars get a lot of there's a lot of love oh yes um
you know yeah I'll have to uh I'll have to do
something on the The Forgotten Northern poll Stars and um and do and uh do that but no it
is my it is it is still absolutely absolutely my goal to uh see that Stella
to read Under The Lights of the Southern Milky Way I'm hoping we should do that
it's really going to be a life-changing experience and also it's uh it's
wonderful to experience the night sky under real Dark Skies uh I have to tell
you the first time that I I've ever seen the Milky Way galaxy I was a graduate
student so I was in my um late it was 19 years old and I was at kid peak in
Arizona so I'm one of those people who actually grew up in a big city and I haven't had
the opportunity or experiences of actually looking at the really dark sky and even now um as a professional
astronomer I really value appreciate and cherish the opportunities I had to go to
really dark sites with big telescopes and take the data that I needed and
living in Cambridge Massachusetts which really you can see the balloon
so it's one of those things where you know I really miss miss looking up and
saying you know something these are my best friends and there's much more in um
life than the what 100 years that I'm going to live on this planet so it's uh
absolutely it's a matter of perspective it's also a matter of wisdom
I'm not claiming I have it but what I'm saying is that I'm hoping that everybody in our audience will have the
opportunity to experience the vastness of the universe through looking at the
Milky Way galaxy at a really dark site yes interject a little bit Scott and Caesar
yes South America yes Nebraska star party in north central
Nebraska to this yes yes
eyes in North America don't sign me up sure yes I gotta go
there so John how do you yes John I I of course that if we have
opportunities to Nebraska here you can see here closer the all
animation that Eric while Eric are searching and working in their office of
a professional Observatory he's making all-time pictures and video like this
what a nice job yes Eric this is fantastic this is fantastic
so yeah exactly my first kind of outing more in-person
conference will be cellophane in Vermont cellophane yes August I'm
really looking forward to it I will be vaccinated and safe at that time uh so
I'm giving a presentation there but for next year I'm really hoping I'm gonna make it to the Texas Star Party and John
send me an in same information about the Nebraska server I mean
I'm gonna do everything I missed in the last two years everything one year I
will as stalik has uh we yeah we're looking always looking for speakers I
think when the last time I was on a mission we have a we have two speakers lined up so far this year but we're
always looking for a new talent I was about to send your little private chat but I'll say it here we're we're always
uh looking for new talent and we've had uh Abby a bowling back up there we've
had crenvira highsini which I'm sure most of you have probably heard of uh we
had a young gal here a few years ago called Jordan his name was Jordan concannon who just blew us away with
what she was doing she uh she graduated with a dual degree in physics and astronomy University of Hawaii here a
few years back well I think that you should in invite
Libby it's going to be in the works and I will be very happy to come over
and support her well yeah I think I'm just gonna come
it may be too late this year to get it all wired together I'll try but uh next year
we'll start planning on it yes we are taking I know about this everyone yeah
it's official be a part of that as well nice yeah yeah John I would love to
check those uh Skies out I think you're closer to me than where I'm going this
year which is all the way to the border of Oklahoma and Texas yeah I think you're a little bit closer so I have to
I uh come check that out and do some Imaging down there
yeah we get some uh
sorry that you guys can all set up and do your Imaging and uh I'll be going back and forth I'll be
Imaging one night and if you have another clear night I'll be bringing my C11 and actually using my eyes I like to
do both because it's it's you could get all the way into the Imaging side but
there's nothing like having something millions and millions of light years away hit your own eyes and now we need
that for yourself we had a con it's a big job there
uh we had uh Scott help me who's who's the the guy down at uh uh in Big Bend
Texas now that has the 40 48 inch remember his oh I don't remember his
name I remember the telescope he was up there one there one we get
[Music] we get Scopes and and once you've looked at the real Sky through there in fact we
a couple years ago we had what we called the uh the one billion light year club we were looking at a quasar I can't
remember which one it was but everybody that got to see it then got a certificate that said they had seen light from 1 billion light years away
awesome yeah those you definitely visual you definitely need aperture to be able
to pull in all that light astronomy you you need time and uh or
astrophotography you need time and integration time to tease out some of
those details but uh no I am very intrigued John and um I'm thinking that
I'm going to be putting that out the word out to my astronomy clubs about his
dark sky Park and inviting them to check it out um that may be my trip next year uh to
come to Nebraska I'll wear my U of M uh shirt it'll be a big tent Affair and uh we're gonna we'll
have a good time underneath the stars there you go right
okay uh Cesar do you want to introduce Carol
um sorry I was muted I was talking YouTube okay yeah
um thank you Eric by the presentation uh again uh the videos that we what uh was
it was amazing maybe next time we are talking about the videos and the work is
amazing I really invite you your in your office is really a dream
um uh where we are going to uh
League to present the their prices um well Carol yes thank you Cesar and uh
Scott for sending up such a fabulous program uh this is most impressive and
Libya is so great to hear your report tonight you continue to amaze me by sending setting your goals or you want
to be five years from now and that's sounds real impressive about the goal of having your Messier certificate in five
years in fact I have a feeling you'll make it with some time to spare even so
well done uh I would like to uh uh yeah I also
like to talk about uh John Johnson and their group coming back it's so
refreshing to see we're coming back from the pandemic slow steps at a time but we're getting there so that's really
encouraging to see and we hope to see more later okay
I'm gonna share my screen we'll get to the store prices
everybody see it yes okay excellent yes
the warning we always put on this first screen is that if you are Out Among the
uh using a i-pace or telescope make sure you don't Point toward the sun without
the proper filtering so we'll go on from there uh the first thing we're going to do is
give the answers from GSP 43 which was held on April 27th before I do that
though our virtual Alcon 2021 is coming
on August 19th through 21. that's the National Convention for the astronomical
League normally it's held in a fixed location physically but we're doing it virtually this year thank you Scott for
doing a lot of the heavy lifting there for us and next year and July we'll be
back in Albuquerque so put that on your calendar as well
the questions from that last Star Party first question this galaxy in Virgo is
named after a type of hat what hat is it
and the answer is the Sombrero Galaxy
the number two question from that Star Party Proxima Centauri is the closest star to
the Sun what kind of star is it and your choices were Red Dwarf brown dwarf red giant
blue super jet sun-like yellow star and the correct
answer is Red Dwarf option A
number three a well-known star funding run tells you
to use the Big Dipper's handle to Arc to Arcturus and speed on to what other Rod
star and the answer is spacca and Virgo that's an easy way to remember those two
locations is that little rhyme there and we have several names we're going to
add to the monthly door prize list from that star party they are Andrew corkel
Becca atala book Davies John purcelli
Laurie and Sarge help mount bushing those names too badly and Cheryl pre
Cameron yellis who's on this broadcast Norm Hughes Richard Grace Christopher
Larson Jane labinski lubinsky Jen Hendrickson
and now turning to the question for tonight's start party
question number one what is the name of the NASA helicopter
that has made very recent history by flying on Mars
and if you know the answer to that send your answers to secretary at Astro
League .org that happened just a few days ago so uh
check it out real carefully yes question number two the next total solar eclipse is visible
from the Western half of North America parts of South America and Southeast
Asia what is the date of that event and again send the answers to secretary
at astroleague.org and finally
if one weighs 200 pounds that's 90.7 kilos on Earth
how much would the person weigh on March and I know one thing I would like to go
to Mars for that reason because I can usually help them but
and again send the answers to secretary at astroleague.org
and astral League life number six will be back this Friday May 7 2021 at seven
o'clock Eastern six o'clock Central it will be featuring Astro Bob King
his talk will be on meteorites time travelers from the infant solar system
and that does it for me and thank you so much and back to Cesar
and Scott thank you Carol uh
thank you uh yes the people need to send the answers to to the email that
um that I have I don't have the email sorry but you you you sure secretary at Astro League a s t r o l e a g u e dot
org okay thank you thank you well Scott we are going to the 10 minute
break okay we can do that
um yeah so it's time to stretch your legs and get ready for the rest of our program we
have coming up uh Pekka yes Sweden uh Pedro cyzar uh also from
Argentina uh yes Cesar brolo this guy that I know that uh yes you know this
guy yes I'm 44th Global Star Party he's coming on with a special presentation
uh we have Adrian Bradley uh coming on who's been with us through the program
he'll be talking about light pollution Molly Wakeling out of uh yeah you know
is is will be with us John Johnson who's been with us as well we'll talk about Nebraska's Star Party
yeah we have dick Striker um yeah uh I'm not sure what his presentation or talk
will be about but I'm sure it'll be interesting uh and Cameron Gillis uh
will share more of gillis's universe so um uh so we're uh we're we've got a lot
more to go we also have the after party uh and I have posted the link to the
waiting room which will open here in about two minutes uh to get you prepared
if you'd like to be on the global star party with us towards the end of the show so
um right now we will go to our 10 minute break uh and uh we'll be back
okay friends I think I'm gonna log out okay in a while
here is my research assistant
oh who just turned one here hold a week
ago um yes I can show your assistance yes oh
my goodness because all over Instagram oh that's the key it is nice I can write
mine sleeping right here yeah oh I I absolutely adore him he's uh
he he changed our Dynamics in my little family so um I have to tell you guys I love
animals I really do I this is the first time in my life I managed to have a dog so uh both for me and my boyfriend's
been like a a a a life-changing experience
uh we have a baby now yes we have a baby now oh my gosh mm-hmm
yikes big commitment that's right no it's not
just the community it's a pleasure I mean this little creature is changing Dynamics in our little household so
um anyway astronomy aside such a pleasure to see you all again I
hope that you are safe and um you get your vaccination soon and
I'll see you hopefully next time yep yeah
so so those of you that are on today okay uh our next Global star party will
be on uh May 15th which is International astronomy day uh so that
will be a Saturday event and it will be co-hosted or special hosted by uh the uh
Royal Astronomical Society of Canada the Montreal chapter which uh I think David
Levy is very involved with and so um so anyhow
um but if you would like to present uh you know I mean it's like Christmas time
for astronomers right International astronomy day so we're having a global Star Party it'll start a little bit
earlier than it normally does and uh uh watch for uh details about it as I send
out group group mailings about that great great sounds good
until then clear skies everyone and be safe
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understood that you are invited to everyone to a barbecue because yes they
don't need translation Adrian Cameron Scott everyone is invited and especially
in a farm area in a farm area where
I'm going and I will no barbecue some corn or something so I I will link your
plate the vegetarians don't worry I will cover you okay I will take care of the
meat for you but I can I can put some vegetables in the in the barbecue no
problem but not so just something my wife will want me put more because my wife will want me to eat at least some
more of the veggies to go along with the meat me who will be here vegetables will
be here yeah yes everyone we have the same the same problem here yes I I
normally we we feel that the barbecue with meat I think Argentina you know
that I think when we do the barbecue it had to be
a Sunday because at night with the smoke and everything we can see anything and
the the equipment maybe breaks so the the smoke is a lot with
and smell you will not going to do observations or anything you will going
to eat that's right so yeah that is why we set the camera on the intervalometer
we pick the target we let it go and we come and eat and we
forget that it's running we have lots of images to process and we wake up and go oh I hope my polar
alignment is good yeah and it's nice so we have so we have lots of images of
first thing and now you've got an image of something else you have no idea what it is
um but you've taken you've taken all the images yes you don't care because you're
eating that I would love most of the time our get-togethers with the star parties
we do it's all just about looking at the sky adding barbecue to it is perfect for me
I would be the best one ever okay so I'm holding all three of you
it would be it uh to at the the for 4 AM barbecue break to
to start party safarian barbecue I I think it is wonderful yeah I will hold
all three of you I will probably need you all to help me to know where to go when I finally make my trip to um
the southern hemisphere down you know I uh
exactly yes that's really yeah that will
yeah Stella says life-changing experience I I think she will be right
chances are my camera will sit here and I'll just be staring just looking at it and just taking it
all in um I don't want to miss the experience of actually seeing it before I fire up
the camera gear and say now how am I going to compose this night sky shot and
you know then go crazy and make sure I have batteries um I've got lots of spare batteries and
chargers and I have to get all of that squared away so leave
the moments only live the moment I I will I will live the most absolutely that is the
plan my advice would be uh treated as your first total solar eclipse so yeah
carry the camera you will you will want to have it but don't worry too much about it and try to yeah enjoy it
visually has some nice IEPs that you can borrow sure
all right I will do some I will do some visual you've got that big camera
um or that big camera lens but it's Nikon I have canon in Sony and my Sony
has an adapter for Canon lenses so um I mostly Canon
with my um with my gear but don't worry we hang it from the from the double
outside it can't take anything oh okay oh that will be that will be fun
we will uh we'll look forward to doing that um yeah so now I have I have friends
that I can contact that's the first step I just have to um
I just have to Outlast the pandemic and save some money and
um be ready to take the flight yes and and I'll I'll know what camera gear I
want to bring because when I go when I go cross country this fall I'll
be driving out to do some Imaging at a dark sky site
um similar to John's out in Nebraska this one will be in Texas and
um I only plan to bring what I need to do a little bit of daytime and a whole
lot of nighttime photography um it may not take as much as I want to
carry I want to carry the entire all the cameras every lens I own and throw it in
the truck and go but on the plane I don't want to do that so I have to figure out the minimal amount that'll
still get me what I would like to see I know the wide angle lens will come and
then I just have to figure out maybe a lens that I can use versatile lens that
I can use for some Daytime photography as well so I will be
figuring that out and in order to have the money I will sell all the rest and
then I can come and see so um that will be the plan flights down
to at least from Northwest Arkansas down to Buenos Aires is only 756 dollars
round trip so that's pretty good deal you know wow yeah I just got to get to
Arkansas okay a path is beginning to form where would you fly out of Adrian what
what city I would be flying out of Detroit Metro um to get to Arkansas maybe last let's
see Detroit [Music]
yeah I thought I'd check too foreign
influence them to develop a special Argentinian uh vegetarian chorizo for me
so you know that might be tough they like they like
their their uh their meats down there in Argentina I know anyhow
um I don't see Pekka here with us right now he may come on the program a little bit later uh Suzanne so why don't we
just go ahead and go to our next speaker um yes I trying to see if Pedro is
trying to connect it again I did see Pedro on earlier yes I I did see yes I seen Pedro
um if not we um let me see
that yeah the schedule would be after yes the schedule I have this Carol and yeah we
haven't traveled but because well but I think that Adrian you can
talk about uh if you call if you Scott agree with this maybe Adrian can the
boss you're ready yes well thank you but uh you can tell us about
um uh a big problem today that is a light pollution how how the like pollution
affects the skies yes I would be photography and
I'd be more than happy to go ahead this will be the presentation I have prepared
is I do a lot of Milky Way shooting I wish Stella was here to see it
um the way that I'm going to show the effects of light pollution are to show
how Milky Way Imaging looks in various Border level Skies with your hired
portal numbers you can hardly pick up things like the Milky Way whereas in your lower bordel
class numbers it's an amazing streak in the sky and it it's you know we talk about seeing it
um in this in the great state of Michigan we have different places unfortunately we don't get we go down to
portal 2. John will tell you to come to uh a four to one state where you can
where you can read from the light of the Milky Way I will have that added to my presentation as I share my screen
um so let me go ahead and start my presentation let's see if this works yes
um and so so when we talk light pollution we're
talking things like this in my um light this is like coming from Canada
tungsten light that when you image it has this orangish yellowish glow to it
and if there's enough of that light it can begin to wash out
um things in the night sky um Starlight the band of the Milky Way
that you see here this is taken in what is typically a portal 3 Zone but
I will show you the different um portal classes that I that I've been to over
the last three or four months these are just some specs um one thing I didn't include was that in a
couple of them I use a Scott a Tracker similar to uh uh see maximiliano
um your tractor your your uh Sky I think it's a star Adventure
tracker that you had with your telescope connected I use this very similar one
um so this is the bottom line you end up you end up being assigned a higher
portal class if there's more light pollution in your area and that means you do not have a sky where you can see
with the naked eye a lot of the uh a lot of things that the night sky can offer
so let's start with the worst of the worst Ann Arbor Michigan where I'm from is a
large city there's a lot of bright light I I would like to tell you this is
Jupiter um depending on when I took this picture you can barely see messages of the Milky
Way and it took um it took some uh processing to get this
this is uh this is um Antares out of Scorpion
you'll see this star and I think just about all the images I tried to take with a rising Milky Way the Northern
Hemisphere does not get to see the uh southern side of the Bulge so
um we miss out on some of the things like the coal sack nebulas the magellanic clouds are hidden from us and
you know of course we're North so the southern poles you know are invisible
this is a portal 7 Sky now if you go outside of
the outskirts and you're into rural Skies it's borto five class you image it and
you begin to see some Milky Way detail um your you know the clouds here are
blocking some of the uh light pollution so the this is what you would consider a
rural Sky um the light pollution is coming from that main city
and this is the place that I often Point people to if they want to do any kind of
visual astronomy at all because the sky is at least nice enough to see a lot of
different um a lot of different things but you know the skies do get a lot better and it
looks like I've rolled backwards by mistake let me see if I can click this button okay
there's Antares again now we're in Portal 4 and we begin to
see definitions in the Milky Way there's Antares oh this is the meteor yeah yeah
this is this is Yep this is when you start being able to image when you go to
a dark sky preserve this is one in lower Michigan called Lake Hudson dark sky preserve and notice there's still this
glow here you still have and the higher up on the horizon the light blow the
city glow is the more it interferes now there's just enough Darkness with a good with a good
image you can get some detail and naked eye when you see the Milky Way
You Are seeing some you're not quite seeing all the structure but you are seeing the
um these Lanes you don't necessarily see the dust Lanes but it's blank where the
dust lanes are you can barely see the Crazy Horse nebula here
um this is how it appears in the northern hemisphere you kind of have to Crane your neck a little bit to see the
outline of the Crazy Horse and then the line um the dust Lane going into the roofyuki
region so at portal 4 it begins to um this guy's begin to get better
and we go to portal three you see some structure but not quite
color in the Milky Way naked eye when you image you get a lot more you get a
lot more stars as well as a lot more structure in detail look at the Crazy
Horse now you can tell if you're looking at it this would be its head it's uh
bent front leg you can see that um in images you see the line going into
the rose ofuyuki complex here you see that in images and
you know you have to be around these dark areas this is Lake Huron this red light is persistent at
this particular location and I can still get all this detail that's Canada
there's still a little bit of light pollution but it's not enough to
um block out a lot of the detail that you can see in the sky it's still there
but it's minimized that the light that's called a light Dome
about 10 degrees maybe less this may this may be more more like seven degrees up from the this
is the absolute flat Horizon because you are looking over a lake um there's
um Antares again um and then finally we get down the
Portal 2 here in Michigan and most of the noise reduction that I tried
to do we're taking stars out of the picture because there are so many stars that you
image in a portal 2 Zone um absolute detail
there's uh the Lagoon m-a and M20 um M16 and 17 are here if you look close
enough and you know what you're looking for you will see a lot of nebulae that
um that are in here as of yet Sagittarius hasn't quite risen
otherwise you would see M22 you'd see a ball representing that up close here
the coat hanger from the summer triangle that is Altair and I think we don't have Vega or denev
in in this particular shot but this is the start of the uh summer triangle and
the cygnus region goes off this way um still some lights Portal 2
discoloration here comes from I want to say the town is Saint ignis in
the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and this is a this is another small town where
the light glow is small but it is often in the distance to the
East and this is rising uh Southeast there's our bright star Antares and look
there's Messier four we can now see Messier four here Antares I believe this
is another NGC globular cluster there's a faint globular cluster
maybe this is like from that I'm not sure is it in small NGC object but um
the darker your skies your images show this all of this detail this this region
here if you look at a real detailed view of the Milky Way you will see this you'll see even better detail of this
region this um all of this that's coming from the
central bulge and there's the northern part of the central bulge we don't see again we don't see much else other than
the northern part but it is still fantastic and last slide of my presentation
um these are all beautiful pictures we've taken I've taken them with my camera all of this detail shows up so a
lot of you may say was this what I really see well what you really see is this this is
naked eye this is you looking at the sky with your own eyes and you're seeing
you're still seeing color you're seeing some of the you're seeing
these lines in real time this is this is um this photo represents
just how much Sky you see in a portal 2 Zone a lot of the light
that you see how dim a lot of the light is on the horizon it brightens up when
you image it but it's you know when you're out there
at a portal 2 Zone you are seeing exactly the Milky Way look like this
four to one I would expect this to become brighter and I would expect it to resemble
um I'm going to go out in my presentation I would expect portal one
let's see if naked eye well this actually wouldn't be I would expect that to the naked eye
it should look similar to what I've imaged it should look like this naked
eye you should see this detail with your naked eye you should see the dust Lanes
the nebula you should see all of that naked eye when you're in a border one zone and anyone who's been to a portal
one zone could chime in and say this is you're right this is exactly what you
see minus all of the uh the light pollution here so it's part of the reason that we as
astronomers are interested in reducing light pollution oh it's very simple we want a nice guy a
beautiful night sky that we can observe but it is also about the uh about wildlife and nature
and natural cycles of light there's Moonlight that comes once every couple
of weeks and then the Moonlight Fades and it is completely dark animals work
off of those Cycles during Moonlight they'll move in the night more yeah but
during um dark Cycles they stay more sedentary um I have no I've noticed that from
driving at night when it's a new moon very few animals are trying to cross the
road but now with the light pollution and with constant light you have animals
confused and you have animals moving when they normally aren't and there's
also there's hazards in the road when they're trying to cross for those that
are traveling at night it is messing up sleep cycles it's um it's something that
more and more cities are taking a look at and seeing how can we illuminate
proper or illuminate in a way so that the lights are not directed up at the
night sky and um the whole goal isn't to make things
go back to the Stone Age no lights but it's to be more intelligent about how
we're lighting up our businesses at night using just the right amount of light for people to see
and yet not directing it up at the sky so that we can enjoy the night sky
portal classes can go down in areas and more people can enjoy and actually see
what is up there a lot of you that have not seen the Milky Way before that's why you haven't seen it because
it's washed out by all of the light pollution in the major cities so it's a
long process there's some it's not there's balancing to do he's
the problem yes yes yes Adrian thank you and I want to be sure to point that out
yes and and your work comparing how Over the Horizon you can see how the light
increasing and cover the Milky Way and
the different colors are well this is a gray study of with your pictures how how
uh increasing the Marvel number this is was a great thank you very much Adrian
you're welcome yes thank you very much uh well uh we I
have my presentation but uh we are um we
um can uh we are going to um let me see
hi big Striker um really quick so yeah
we have really quick I wanted to ask a question to John those Milky Way
pictures that you saw um would you say that the uh my image of
the bortal force guy is naked eye with your skies at uh in Nebraska
yep sure um we're uh
Bartle one for the most part it's been kind of interesting as part of our uh getting this uh
package together for our uh designation again in our you know our package for Ida dark sky Park designation we've been
taking a lot of uh sqm readings of the sky uh with the nice guy meters
and we've kind of to the conclusion that when we're up there during
the maximum Milky Way summer Milky Way in August that light from the Milky Way is
affecting the darkness of our skies whoa you can see you can see the layer
of the Milky Way yes yes well we have some places in in no especially in our
place of the third party but if we um if we go a little to the mountain we can
see yes the second that you tell John the the in your hands you can see the
like of the Milky Way it's amazing and well your your
serpari place is is amazing too yeah yes I I I now I know where I need to go
for it for the next surprise United States [Laughter] we would welcome you yes
yes for sure um the picture of the uh you know in Portal
seven you still were able to eke out the uh the Milky Way there so you know that's that's
yeah I that was probably the most impressive picture because it was the
hardest one to actually do um I didn't expect to get that yeah that
was uh that was a personal dare and it it actually came out I go wow I actually see it uh nice job much easier in a
darker sky yep what well um we are going to Molly Watling
hi Molly how are you doing Molly Molly is it it's it's it's an amazing
astrophotographer um not only as a photographer you know he he know a lot he knows a lot of
astronomy and in every uh Global surprise she as she
explained their objects that she she she
should I don't know if shoot shooting is it's okay but you make amazing pictures
and you uh Wonder us with your explanation and we really learn a lot
about your pictures yes um yes so it's not quite dark enough
here for me to be able to pick up anything yet uh so I'm um kind of waiting on the skies to get a little
darker try to pick up a globular cluster which should be probably the easiest thing uh as the skies get darker okay so
I'll let you know when I when I have something but yeah it's still a little bit too bright here unfortunately yes
it's dead of night and cloudy here Molly so you almost you almost have sympathy
for me almost yeah it's uh it's like 8 30 here on the uh uh
on the coast here in California um and we're we're in deep Twilight now
uh astronomical Darkness doesn't start for another hour uh so uh a little bit
darker and we'll be able to pick up something at least um but yeah it's uh clear as a bell tonight and I've had clear nights for
the last week so much so that I'm actually getting tired of covering and uncovering my Scopes every night oh my
God yeah I'm looking for I'm looking for the button to mute you because over here
in Michigan it's been raining for like three straight days you know we have a saying in Michigan if you don't like the
weather too bad because we um if we have more than two clear skies in a row we're
all surprised and within and if there's another clear sky we're all tired because we sit every single night waking
moment trying to do something um I put a lot of miles in my car during
those moments I think Wednesday night is our next opportunity for everybody to
just rush out so um yeah so yeah it's it the weather does
play a role and there's it's no wonder that a lot of research is done in all
the areas you're in where there's more clear skies it only makes sense yeah we
try to do research and uh next month so I'm going back to the
land of Cloudy Skies
what's my backyard rig I'm able to take advantage of even iffy nights or partly
clear nights uh where previously when I had to drive out to the observatory I would only go out if the forecast was
really good um so I can kind of work on partial nights uh now that I have a backyard set up yeah yeah it should be sad for the
for folks out there astrophotography does give you an opportunity
to if you've got anything at all that you can image with enough time you can
tease out a lot of detail that otherwise you would normally need clear skies to
get so there is some value we still don't want you to forget that light pollution is bad but it's one of the way
it's one of the other ways we've combated it by uh getting better with our tools and techniques with
astrophotography we can continue looking at the sky but then we have another challenge and that's all of the
satellite constellations that are going up in order to provide internet all around the world it's a benefit for the
world but for astronomers it's not so much when you have streaks going through every more more and more frames
um it can get difficult so it's a never-ending battle to um you know to observe the night sky
yeah yeah and unfortunately there's some techniques for for us amateurs to use to
remove satellite trails from images but for really sensitive cameras that are
doing astronomical science and stuff like that um once those pixels are blown out they're blown out and they've lost that
observation um so uh while yes the amateurs in with our uh less sensitive gear uh we can use
uh pixel rejection techniques and stuff to eliminate satellite Trails the
satellites do have to be absent from enough frames to have statistical significance to be able to reject the
pixel streams but uh yeah the the big sensitive uh professional telescopes um
they're they're kind of hosed if a satellite goes through their view so and I I know in Miami it's a really good
point you know if I'm Imaging near anywhere near the ecliptic I get a satellite at least one satellite through
probably every other frame uh and sometimes more than one in a single frame yeah
uh every every 45 minutes there's one that goes right through the middle of the Orion the uh Orion Nebula I've
actually I would be willing to share my background screen because I have an
image I took that shows that exactly and I don't remember if I did that yeah I'm
waiting to make one of those where I I don't reject the pixels and and you can see all the satellite streaks that go
through uh one data set uh the meaning to make one of those once I find one that has a reduced yeah so I think you
can see exactly what Molly's talking about here in my back here's my background screen I love it because this
was a single frame at a portal 3 Zone and there's all your satellite streaks
summer geosynchronous if you look down here look at all of the uh streaks going
together here um so this is this is kind of what we
were you know we're kind of lamenting about is that we're aiming at some Target
and we've got these streaks Adrian there are the the um this of of I
think that no because the the train of satellitos from SpaceX no it's there
another particular satellite yeah I've seen pictures of um when there's a newly
launched uh uh group of them and and they're still pretty bright and still
clustered together that's following through an image and you get like 12 lines through the image simultaneously
moving it at low earth orbit speed yeah yeah it just goes right through your
whole image and I think that subframe if you get that many satellites in a single subframe I think you have to throw it
out yes you you need sometimes you need Molly you need to see if you in the
single lights if you have some someone every every time is more normal that
that the people find single shots single lights with lines of
saturated diodes yeah yeah but exists
um normally the the stacker Pro stacking programs make something uh automatically
or you ever ever you need to to see to to watch this manually or on see live by
live yeah yeah there's there's ways to combat it but um it can if you start getting
enough of them in in enough frames then uh it becomes less effective
yeah yeah this is yes because it's it's something that that that the the
software looks like something wrong or maybe not and
because sometimes when when the pictures have a uh uh when the the software
decide we train a great pictures with great lives and no so good in the in the
person that that you put like uh like I don't know maybe in a stackered programs
maybe are all the same system but of course that you can say as Molly if if
that is that I tell because yeah no like that it's a statistical reduction
process where um so you have all your frames and if there is some light that
shows up only in one frame and not in any of the others or in very few of the
others then um you know if it falls outside of the standard deviation then it gets rejected those pixels get
rejected for that frame and they get filled in with pixels from other frames and that's how you deal with with
satellite Trails you can even move airplane Trails the same way ah it's a
disaster because if you have more right maybe I get a lot of those uh through my images quite often because there's a lot
of aircraft around here we have two airports here and then oh my god um uh
cosmic rays as well it does a lot of cosmic ray rejection uh because it's a similar thing where you have the cosmic
yes yes we have a little bit of a couple pixels of light that are only in that one frame and it's gone in the next one
so yeah it gets rejected because it's only in the one frame it's amazing every
single one sure once a time just some some statistics yes but it's doing even
even deep Sky stacker can do that it's it's pretty standard in uh any stacking
program to be able to turn on some kind of pixel rejection uh and yeah even deep Sky stacker has that built in yeah the
the old one the the the classic deep Sky stagger yes I use this well you know that I use this because I like the the
old things yeah yeah well it's it's a great yeah
um yes it's normally yes we are watching the the bar we always feel it yes yeah
it's a great place for for beginners to to get started because it's certainly a lot less complicated than pretty much
any other stacking software out there uh and it's free so you can kind of get your feet wet with it and uh then you
can pair it with Photoshop to get better results and then you can eventually start stacking with other programs like
uh nebulosity or picks and site and stuff like that um yeah to start getting the really good
results but yeah deep Scott stacker is a great place for for beginners to start yes yes it's a beginner to beginners or
ECC to to to to use um it's a great program it's a free
program for is uh it's great that we can encourage to the people with a free
software that work perfectly to start to to understand
the astrophotography yeah and you kind of get a feeling for you know how what do dark frames do for me what do flat
frames do for me um yeah you know and it does have some knobs to turn it's not it's not uh it's
got options of things for you to do um so you can kind of mess around with the different settings and uh yes and
yeah it's it's actually I actually um used it recently when
um oh what was I doing uh I couldn't I couldn't get picks and
site to register um oh yeah oh yeah juice grass stacker
has a mosaic mode where um if you have so like pixel site will also do mosaics but
that's like planned panels yes have a lot of of uh of tools that are amazing
yeah if you if you so I've done a couple image sets before where you you plop a
DSLR on a tripod and you let the sky kind of move and you take short enough
exposures where the stars are barely moving in each exposure but um uh you
kind of get a swath of sky and every single frame is only slightly offset from each other and picks and sight
can't figure that out but these Sky stagger's got a mode for that in particular and I actually recently had to stack an image in deep Sky stacker
and then bring it into fixing site because bits Insight couldn't figure out how to do the um yes
absolutely yes try that sometime I'd like to do a mosaic the entire Milky Way
so I think I'm going to try that um yeah but yeah I've tried it a couple of times
I've been thus far unsuccessful because my lenses have too much um uh
uh Barrel Distortion yeah the Distortion is too high but now I have a Rokinon 135
millimeter that has much less Distortion so hopeful to be able to do a really
wide field Panorama at some point using that so it's high on my list I look
forward to seeing it okay you got some nice shots there uh I've
almost got um uh the globular cluster showing up here I'm getting my settings yes show us
a picture okay uh all right to your picture I'll go ahead and
here um let's see it's not the con face nebula it is m53 which is a globular
cluster um and let me
bring that down yeah so the contrast isn't great right
now because um uh it's still still getting darker out
there and I've only got a couple of frames here so far and actually I need to restart amazing you have anything at
all yeah actually I need to clear this because the first frame that got in there was badly registered and um yeah
I'm just going to reset this real quick um yeah so it's going to start live stacking here uh so you can kind of see
this little smudge it'll clear up as I get more until you've just taken 30 second frames for now um but this is globular cluster Messier
53 it's in coma berenices which is a
constellation that's just where there's tons and tons of galaxies in comma berenices and of course since it's
springtime it is Galaxy season so there's not I wanted to go over to
something that that's a good narrow band Target because I'd be able to see that earlier in the evening but alas I can't see any good narrowband
targets right now because there's a whole bunch of galaxies up so um it uh discovered in 1775 by uh Johann
Bode who I think is the same guy that discovered m81 both Galaxy a name for
him um and it Messier included it on his list as object number 53.
uh it it's about 60 000 light years from the uh galactic center and also about
the same distance from us so globular clusters are these really tight clusters of stars um much much denser than uh
open clusters like the Pleiades and the Beehive cluster and stuff like that and the stars are gravitationally
interacting with each other if you lived on a planet that was inside of a globular cluster your Sky would be
filled with stars as bright as serious and that would like you wouldn't even be able to see a whole lot because the
Stars would be like like a moon in your whole Sky
um and they're actually some of the oldest objects in the universe they're usually uh between uh 10 to 13 billion
years old and they're thought to possibly even predate galaxies themselves
um when kind of galaxies are just kind of formless blobs of gas and stuff like that pumping out Stars
the uh they live way up above and below that the gout the plane of the Galaxy
foreign and they uh so there are some in the
plane like like M4 the Adrian was showing right right up there with Antares both of them are above and below
the plane of the Galaxy uh so that's why we can see this one during Galaxy season
because it's it's way up above or below the plane depending on which orientation you are
yes they're fascinating objects
yep typical and true Star Party form something breaks could not align
remember folks it happens all the time at every at Star parties we I'm sure
Molly's about to work through it uh yeah my guiding is okay
um let's see let me just I'm amazed you getting that right now Molly um
uh you know I'm in the Pacific Northwest a couple hours North and we still have
the uh the Twilight so uh you you get I guess you got dark enough Skies to to
pull out uh is it m53 yeah and it is yeah it's we're
in real deep Twilight now it's it's fairly dark outside but we won't hit astronomical Darkness for another hour
yeah but dark enough you can kind of see it here every I reset the sequence uh so
uh my stars look a little nicer in this first frame so hopefully it'll be able to uh to register the subsequent frames
um but yeah so yeah fun fact I can see the globular
cluster showing up now yeah it's kind of how it looks and oh and it's yeah it's coming in
um yeah that's how it looks in some of the crappy telescopes that I own so I've actually this is about it for me yeah
it's gonna get better yeah from the city uh viewing globular clusters in like a
small telescope um even even my eight inch uh they generally kind of look like this it's
not so you get out to a dark sky and look through like a 16-inch dobsonian that uh globular clusters really reveal
their incredibleness I got to look at a couple of gardener clusters on a 32 inch
uh Newtonian uh at a observatory in Ohio and you could see you could you could
resolve hundreds of stars because uh that's where that's where aperture makes a big difference
uh is when you're trying to resolve small distances between things and so
you can resolve globular clusters really well and see individual stars and you're looking through these really huge
aperture telescopes and like if I ever got a night on one of those um huge uh professional telescopes like
on Mount Wilson and stuff like that I would go look at a bunch of live weather clusters probably
they're really cool to look at through their big giant light buckets
excellent I can't say that yeah I dare say that your eyes resolve
globular clusters and large instruments a little better than a typical image
might I agree I think it's I think the seeing blurs out the Stars so quickly
that um in a camera frame that it's one of those things that like the planets
that really just show up better in the eye then you can really capture with the camera uh so I don't actually really
image gallbladder clusters very often for that reason and yeah I still can't get this
livestock I think I think it's just uh I think the is probably having a hard time
detecting the Stars to align the frames because it's still not super values so
yeah great but yeah I'll uh I'll let you move
on to the next speaker yeah thank you Molly it was an excellent presentation and really we enjoy your
work over images and your explanations about about what are you watching in the
in the image um well we are going to I think you had that
John Johnson backed out here is John Johnson here yes yes
okay John I guess I've been you know talking about
this Nebraska yes because we are starting to talk about the Nebraska Safari we we are
Imagining the place and well tell us well because I love the third
parties and especially I heard about your serparian I know that this is
amazing well we um we are uh planning our this year is our
28th uh edition of the Star Party and um things are going quite well uh so far
we we have uh our full lineup of activities that we'll be uh doing
um which will include uh you know obviously the observing the gorgeous
night skies but we'll also have our our uh Chuck Wagon catering service out
there doing evening meals for everyone and uh we will have um uh what we call
our beginner's Field School which is uh been highly uh uh recommended and and
praised over the years where we actually uh provide a very basic uh classroom
environment for three separate times during the week to um the newbies as we
call them uh new folks uh interested in the um in the astronomy uh field uh we
we uh advertise and really try to um promote our star party as a very uh
family oriented very beginner-friendly star party uh although we we do try to impose light
restrictions we're probably not as stringent about them as some of the other uh ones around the country uh
which adds to a very nice environment up there to to be in and we
as I think I mentioned last time we are in the process of getting our
International dark sky Association dark sky Park designation
we have submitted our preliminary package to the Ida in Tucson
we have um uh I've gotten a little bit of feedback uh from them and some other
people that we sent the draft to hopefully we'll have it all polished up and to them before the end of the month
for their review here in the next quarter they're they're quarterly cycle will run from
uh the end of May to August and hopefully by the time of our star party
I guess I should mention that for those of you I haven't been aware of it before it'll be from August 1st through the 6th
of uh this year and it's up there at the the Merit Reservoir State Recreation
Area which is up in north central Nebraska in an area of what's called The Sand Hills which is a very unique
ecosystem uh one of the few places in the world where you have this what just looks like
you know it's called The Sand Hills because that's the underlying soil material but it's covered with grasses
and especially in years we get uh plentyful rainfall to the uh it does
look like a sea of of grass up there and it's it's quite remarkable and
I need to save very few trees so you can literally See For Miles and Miles up
there and uh so anyway uh uh any and all that are
listening to this or are always cordially invited uh we'll also have
evening door prizes we we solicit and we actually purchase additional door prizes
with funding from our uh nonprofit organization uh to provide some very
nice door prizes for people that attend too so that's always a favorite and then uh one day a week we go into the little
town of Valentine has a wonderful High School auditorium where we um
where we have some lectures and talks and and some of the previous things going on tonight I've I've talked to
people about coming up and and doing presentations uh I think I might be able
to get Stella up there next year and then maybe uh uh Libby in the stars that
would be fantastic because we always try to highlight uh one of our talks from
someone new or younger in in into astronomy so uh we're looking forward to
that so um this year I think we have well we you know you uh
I've been working on uh trying to get her there for a couple years now but uh Diane Knutson who as of this year is
president of the uh chair or of the board of directors for the international dark sky Association so she will be
there doing a talk and then I think I've mentioned last year this uh Rob Landis
with NASA down in Houston will be there and we're still looking for a third one uh but I'll I'll let you know that might
be so anyway in a nutshell that's um you know I'm uh very thankful and grateful
for Scott uh always letting me come on and and uh promote the star party and what are you talking about we love it
well yeah we we uh I know uh the rest of
you know uh yeah I and Scott uh got to be I think very good friends I I really
appreciate what he's done and and I try to get down there at least twice a year to visit their facility and and talk
shop with this yeah he's got a wonderful bunch of people working for him there and they're all just top-notch
the Nebraska star party has kind of a a trailer I can play the trailer so that
people yeah I thought about that but you yeah if you have it uh go ahead because it would probably work much better from
your facility then all right well yeah this looks there give it a shot there's three Scott you're our stream
nice
as you can see we have a tremendous amount of space
yes you can see wow
I've already scoped out a few parts of that especially along the lake uh I I
will be right on that Lake Imaging there are some beautiful images to be
had out there [Music]
thank you Ray
I like got myself a a camper trailer last year so I can go to these types of
star parties that don't have lodging and stuff like that I'm really excited yeah that's one thing we're fairly limited on
lodging up there but uh but lots of space to camp in and uh
there is the the Merit trading post that has uh cabins there but they you almost
have to plan a year ahead to get one of them there's our catered meal 10.
look at that line I'll bet you that well I see that smoker
going so I already know how good the food is yeah yes the place of the barbecue very
important yep yes yes we we talked about that earlier barbecue
was important nice nice
okay getting my ticket there yes yes really we we we miss this star parties
it's a very watching the people and you know well I we um
as far as I know we're we're Full Speed Ahead I think we're the first major uh
this year that's going to try to do a full full-featured star party yeah uh hoping some more yeah okay Tech is
yeah they're going yeah
okay text is happening I'm thinking about going there since I
didn't go to Texas Star Party um so we'll see
yeah so I am going through that yeah I
think they're gonna but John I think they're going to do um some um restrictions they're gonna be
aware I think it's going to depend on where we are with uh vaccinations it
sounds like you're going full steam ahead the only thing is we've gotten
permission from the high school uh we we don't know I mean our state's pretty well opened up uh we may uh
once people to spread out and not be you know as you saw in that video all crowded together in line but well mostly
by August I mean you're up there in the wide open spaces you always got a breeze blonde so you know
in our state everybody seems to be uh and the CDC has come out and said now
that uh vaccinated or unvaccinated um if you're outside uh and as long as
you're not crowding together in a big concert venue or something uh and your chances of Contracting covetter are very
small outside uh if you you know maintain some reasonable distance so
that should help and uh okay text I just want to look for that October 1st through 9th which is unfortunately like
my first week of classes in the fall so oh my God I don't think I guess it means
I won't be seeing you there Molly yeah so I do want to go there at some point I
can only really feasibly do one trip to to Texas uh a year so I got to choose
between to Okie text and star party and Texas Star Party but one of these years one of these years well we're all one
thing we know we are going to Nebraska to see these dark side I saw that uh River going through and I said I might
just make my own trip up there and just show up but if you're officially during the star party if you're a fisherman
bring your fishing pole uh oh that'd be fun it's a nationally renowned uh
fishing lake too oh cool yeah it is a damned up River it's called The Snake River but because it winds back and
forth but uh and also if you've never done kayaking or tubing on a on a a
pristine River uh there's a river up there that the snake flows into called
the Niagara River that is a fantastic place to go um canoeing kayaking on yeah
nice yes they have to uh maybe checking into that as well well I have truck wheel
travel so Nebraska should be seeing me at some point here I'm actually driving out
and um yeah so I am going to step away for tonight but um I've enjoyed all the
presentations um John I will be looking up that site and uh getting some more information on
the interesting star party and if and if nothing else next year um I'll see if a few of my astronomy
clubs uh come and visit I think they would be very interested that'd be great
because we get uh yeah we get a big contingency out of the Minnesota area
Minneapolis Minnesota area Rochester uh we always get a contingent coming over from Illinois
and of course I have a and you know I got it I got a guy that's uh coming up
from uh Louisiana this year that he's he's bound and determined to get up there
that's good nice all right well we got to get you some folks from Michigan up there too
we got to get the rest of the big tin involved fantastic all right
um thank you all um thank you I think Cameron I don't know who's coming next uh Cesar will
say that but uh I will be stepping out thank you all again for having me
um all of you watching continue to enjoy the star party um
thanks that Scott would probably say but uh continue to enjoy it I will hopefully be back very soon
time zone have a good one thanks Adrian
okay well a better view of m53 up here to uh
now yes I like View
[Music] so the livestocking is actually working
now and um you are the only the only one that are making live image tonight
thank you you guys out here which which is real nice uh yeah yeah and a couple
other fast facts uh m53 is 220 light years across so there's some there's
some thousands of stars that are all within this this relatively small area
um yeah and it's I has a total because they feel sorry yes which is the field though
sorry which is the field of this picture of this area is maybe the field of view
of this is about half a degree uh so so the actual Lobby there cluster
is about um it's it's 13 arc minutes across so uh
just about half the width of of the full moon yeah
can I answer a question and maybe sometimes we can do a live view from our
Global clusters like Omega Centauri or yeah [Music]
uh we can do it with the small uh
I absolutely absolutely in any size Telescope yes yes
normally I make in this in this Global surprise normally I I make uh with that
only with the camera uh live view and they all they're all people uh avoid how
we stake the pictures and we are we are happy to receive uh
participants that make live image Cameron 2 make uh Lively much and it's
this is great it's it's really something that we made a lot of of live image in
in the in the uh the 44 uh Global third
party Global support editions and yes for the next time you can make this yeah
but be afraid of the winter because in Argentina now we are coming the the cold
weather yeah yes no problem yes like so the scope is in my backyard and I'm
inside yes yes so uh it's not it's not typically cold
here but if it were I would be nice and warm inside yeah yes no no yes I am the
only crazy guy that I with the windy uh in the balcony yes I made pictures and
it's got remember this 100 mile per hour Caesar yeah yeah yes yes and my friend
big that I introduced to my friend big Striker and this is one of my heroes
because big uh is is an astronomer educator and he worked a lot in historic
uh very important and historic U.S observatories uh you know of uh
some stories very near we uh
in two weeks ago we are talking about the the
shooter McDonald mirror uh and he really he know very near the history of this he
has the shooting man yes and I I know uh to uh I know my friend big uh maybe from
25 years ago and uh when I don't speak
English like now I don't speak English very very well but I think that 25 years ago doing a good job
[Laughter] thank you and uh biggest is really
actually is is he is still educating people and watching this the the Stars
actually um big told me that it's okay that that is right that you are using the 14
inches cat Smith castle and telescope in in the an observatory and well a big
tell us what uh
how was your your work in in in big telescope U.S the operator for for
really great telescopes yeah can you hear me okay
perfectly big okay well I'm on my 76th orbit around our sun star now and uh two
weeks after I got my last vaccine I resumed work at the cat fountain
Observatory west of Tucson it's a resort we have a roll-off
c-16 I'm sorry 14. and we have Star
Tours limited to five people and uh when it's clear
I do kind of a personal interactive one-on-one type of presentation uh not a
talking head it's uh people don't like that and I'm kind of a specialist at
that I've been doing uh such star talks and presentations and teaching since I
was 21. um when I got out of the service because
I had ditched high school and gone up to Kitt Peak I was curious about it I became friends with the Opticians and I
watched them aluminized 82 inch mirror one time and when I got out of the service I went
to work at Kitt Peak in the optical shop grinding lenses cleaning lenses and
um between Labs that's where I learned to wash dishes you know I enjoy yes
but uh it's very similar big it's real yeah very similar it is it is yeah I can
still picture the detergent the get all the grid out before the next
ingredient but um kid Peak was founded in 1958 after
exploring many mountaintops in Southern Arizona and other areas and it's located on the Tohono down
reservation which we used to call Papago reservation and it's 54 miles west of Tucson it's a
12 mile drive up the mountain but don't jump in your car um I'm a volunteer up there now and uh I
don't know if we're going to open until November right now they have a star tour activity
that people can sign up for they pay for it because out of those funds that's
where we get the money to support the visitor center right and uh
my knees are bad now I have a spirit of 36 at 76 my body's 83 but my knee is
because of the excessive gravity on this planet there are 110. so I sit in our small solar Observatory
and interpret that we have a h Alpha and I forget the other frequency
but so I do those but we have a 180 docents up there and uh now raise your
hand if you know why museums and planetariums use doses oh yeah it's cheaper by the docent
so [Laughter]
um but it was interesting having worked there 65 years ago some of the mountain
crew was still up there and we had quite some talks about how it's how it's changed uh there's it's a
more of a rental facility for big universities for their research in the
southwest and of course nowadays everything's going to remote so doctors so and so can sit in his or her office
with a computer and get their data that they need um
I worked at McDonald observatory in 68 69 I think it was as a research
assistant telescope operator and back then we would slave over a cold telescope all night long we would
and we had heated flying suits but I have two memories from McDonald uh
one December 1968 NASA calculated and gave us the pointing coordinates for
Apollo 8 on the way to the Moon and we got images of that it was just
really something I'll always remember that and years later I tried to get that
to NASA to give to the astronauts and it took me about five years to feel
slightly assured that they would do that uh but uh any of you want to email me I
can uh send you that image I reversed it so it's easier to see the spacecraft and
also the booster tumbling along beside it my first time three human beings spam
in a can headed for the room and this is very interesting yeah yeah
amazing it was something but in uh I think it was February of 69 uh a little
later I decided to go back to school at Arizona State University so I said bye
to my friends and goodbye to Fort Davis Texas and I was in Phoenix and back then we
didn't have internet but I read a newspaper and it said somebody had shot holes in the 107 inch telescope mirror
and that was my replacement Lucky them this is I've heard the story
yeah I had a you didn't have any any role in
picking this replacement did you no okay no no yeah no us oh my gosh us
underlings didn't get to do much in the UT hierarchy but anyway
um I had a dear friend my supervisor uh at there is Maurice Moran from pick
dumidi debut in France Observatory a wonderful astronomer technician uh and
we had a good day spectrograph there and uh he taught me how to set the blaze
angle uh for the dispersion and so forth but uh I called him as soon as I read
the newspaper article because it said he had been taken hostage by this black case
and he was okay but he said Victor I would be on the next plane to Fox
and he was he blew out he just didn't want to deal with that and I don't don't blame him
one other thing that was there were two things if I may um it's time we had some people from
Mexico and to create a diversion for the border patrol they set the uh the
mountain on fire so my job at night was to sit up out in the sweat of the 82 inch on the elevator
and keep an eye on the Fire so that was really something
and then in town my first wife was there with me um
it had a population of 500 had seven different churches
so is a wild west Texas town for sure and uh there was a young astronomer
named from Austin and when he came out he stayed on the mount but he come down and had dinner with us once in a while
when we were walking down the street he had long hippie hair and this old lady about 85 she comes up and starts tugging
on sheep on his sleeve young man are you a communist
or her her name was MAUD and she was an original Montgomery Ward mail order
bride that went to West Texas really wow yeah so uh
it's interesting but I always treasure that image we got of Apollo 8 on the way to the Moon
it was really something anyway and now knocking around the world doing many things and this guy with the
funny Mickey Mouse ears you're looking at over there off Kingdom with telescopes on Calle
Florida yeah yes is there all the other store where you because when when you
big came coming to in the 90s when you come into Buenos Aires from the from the
crucifix ship uh because you are
teaching astronomy to the people in the cruise ship and every time that big
coming to Buenos Aires and you know when you love astronomy and you say and a
store in middle of of the downtown and do you see some telescope in the window
they say huh here here is is a guy that sell telescope I I don't need to talk
with him it's me um we start to talk maybe in the 1997 I don't know time
twice yes yes and I think in another Safari that I
really I have the I hope to another one day to go with big Strikers go to
the up to the um Earth's uh Riverside Riverside sir party yes yes
yeah I warned you about that and we got to camp out in a tent because a friend
of mine stayed in the dorm years ago and I had my RV up there with another buddy
from the Santa Barbara astronomy club and we heard this knocking on the door at five in the
morning he's out there bleary-eyed I said yes and he said I've
never heard so much damn snoring and farting in my whole life
laughs if you go there don't stay in the dorm and I actually I didn't have a tent one
year I stayed in the dorm and then I just went out and slept on the ground it was terrible sorry Molly but this is
something that appears in especially in the in the men's uh dormitories of in
all safaris yeah yeah so I I uh we have a lot of of fun in the surprise yeah at
the uh at the green I got to go to the green Bank Star Quest a couple years back and they have a really nice
um uh like kind of a mass dorm where the visiting scientists stay and they had the men's across the hall and the women
the women storm we had a different kind of problem where the majority of the women there were were not into astronomy
themselves they were there as the uh begrudging tag along at their husbands dragging them along so there's a me and
like one or two other women who were actual astronomers and everybody else uh
you know they were going to bed at nine o'clock and getting up really early in the morning making up friends of noise
when we're trying to sleep yeah three in the morning sure yeah
yeah I started yelling at people and then uh to shut up so I can go back to
sleep and then that could have been what that could have been one hell of a cat fight huh oh please
oh come on all right no I I just uh I just yelling at people from my bed and
then curled back up into my sleeping bag and I put up some signs later and people eventually got really really we miss all
of this the the the is is we are we are
um uh we are projecting our grandest third party for April uh next year April
because this year here is impossible because the the vaccines are very low I
have the two the two shots but only because I I working in healthy because I
am a teacher and I touch contact lenses optometrist but if not it's really slow
the number of that's like signed people and we are not able to make the third
party this year we are going we are moving to a April uh 22 uh uh Eric do
you have the the the new now because you know you know but uh yes we are talking
with Jaime Garcia my friends uh my friend Jaime that is another astronomer
that work with me and the third party and uh we are we have the hotel
uh reserved because we take the entire hotel in the it's in a hotel in the not
in the mountain area it's near in the near to the flat area
yes near to the canyon yes yes in the in the in the in the gate of the canyon
maybe which is cool because it covers a bit of the like solution from near cities San Francisco so you have a
really really good Sky close to the Senate we're looking up and you don't
have that ugly you know yellow orange glow in there Horizon
so yeah that's a really great great place for observing yeah yes it's a
great place uh big do you you I think that sometimes we talk about when in
your time of uh big telescope operators uh operator uh you change the plates
because today we are talking about ccds and All Electronics but you I remember
that you told me how uh for example the of course the so-called place that the
telescope was and and to to change the plates it was something a part of work
that you made yeah uh glass plates uh they are closest
place they're pretty stable and they're coated with an Emulsion and the exposures took quite a while but that's
what we used back then but also at the 82 inch Dome we had a coup de focus it
was a little room in the dome where they could do a camera device was and yeah
we had dark runs and then light runs when the moon is on and with kude you
can leave the lights on in the dome so one time this other uh night assistant me we were up there
um hanging out getting ready to work all night and uh we thought well let's take a picture of each other okay
so I took a picture of Chuck and after the flash went off within a second this
little fellow comes streaming out of the coup de door lightning lightning click
click closing closely dumb so doctor somebody from India but uh
just things like that but anyway I eventually wound up working as a edutainer astronomer on cruise
ships and I did that seasonally for about 19 years but then in 2010 the bean counters of
all the crew clotheslines Cruise Lines uh they fired all of us in Richmond
presenters and all of the priests and rabbis they decided we're not uh that were not on money generators
but it was fun while it lasted uh it was really tough Duty listen I I had to get
up in the morning eat breakfast then lecture or mess around till noon
and then I had to eat lunch and after that I had to get up and take a nap
until about 4 pm then I had to get up and eat dinner again and then lay out on deck half
tonight showing the Stars to the passengers I miss it so much I could cry
but I've been around South America probably 36 times and uh like I say when
I walked past his Optica shop with the telescopes and the when though we've been Amigos ever since so it's yeah and
you went to Chile too yes yes yes I did a lot in Chile I also uh later wound up
being an Outreach specialist with affordable planetarium at Lawrence Hall of Science chewing gum and bailing wire
up at Berkeley but I did lots of research with a planetarium affordable
planetariums called Star Lab in the Bay Area so I at one point I thought well
um I'm gonna I'm gonna get back to Chile and start training teachers and and do a
Lawrence Hall of Science style Outreach there and eventually in 03 my buddies
and I down there uh we had written a grant proposal to then Presidente Lagos of Chile
and about eight weeks later I got a letter I was in California from him or his office
chili which means do this for the people in Chile so here's the presidential order right here's the Ministry of
Education they send it to we haven't heard since
so if I uh I've written a historic science fiction piece called dolphin
homecoming and I've spent the the lockdown trying to pitch it to Hollywood
and that's been a lesson they don't talk to anybody yeah but uh if I get lucky and it gets
opted with that uh jackpot I'm on the next boat or playing back to Chile uh
except with my bad knees now I'll have to train someone how to do the portable Dome yeah yes
well thank you Rick what's the pleasure talk with you again and of next uh we
have a another conversation for for uh like the last time last year uh for for
uh soon in Argentina and I invite you for this soon too
um thank you very much big sure so for this should I send the bill to your
office and the optica yes if you need glasses yes I can send
you one of this no problem all right all of you thank you uh nice
to say this on TV like this yeah yes it's a pleasure it's a pleasure
big because we have a great history really well anyway good night everybody good
night good night ciao
well we are going to Cameroon
Hills is your time camera I give you the my time of the presentation
thank you so much Caesar yes it's been a really uh a really great uh session this has been
awesome we've had so many uh great presenters and uh great conversations
and and lots of deep topics I love it it's awesome and uh great great camaraderie and I I want to just call
out is it maximiliano or mass miliano Maximilian maximiliano open your
microphone yeah Maximilian and Emiliano mix it and
maximiliano perfect I love it something I really like yeah it is the
only one Argentinian that I are drinking mate yes it's a cold night I invite you
because I I don't get to to get to get my one and I don't know where if you
have one this is um
yes I do have beer I love it only water yeah
well okay Cameron you you have a live
image or or image that that you so I don't have any uh I I could show
some images I've shown in the past um but if it's okay I I just wanted to continue on my journey uh of uh kind of
doing my sky survey um and uh and and talk a little bit
about my my uh Adventures uh recently in the last week uh so if I'm gonna share
my screen here um
okay you see this right you see blank screen right yes and now what I'm gonna
do is I'm gonna share my tablet that'll come up here
there it goes start now
okay I'll just move this out of the way let me close this okay you can see my screen now right
yes so what I'm showing is that this is uh many of you are probably familiar
with Sky Safari um and let me just uh to make things more clear I'm going to turn off the uh
observing list let's turn it off here so we can just see
this is uh the current night sky and um what I've done
is I've been doing this uh uh this survey so I if you've watched the
previous um star parties uh what I've done is I've basically uh uh have been similar
over the last year I've been creating observing lists of all objects down to
14th actually 13th magnitude that I can visually see with my uh my eight inch
Newcastle green and um and basically uh
uh what I've done is I've completed the circuit uh just this uh last month with
Virgo which has many many galaxies of course and uh what I've done in the last week
if I if I go over here um I actually have been in in the
constellation of links and links if I if I take a look at the observing list that I
did last last week all right let's go down to links
oh there it is so links has a list my my list is a 41
objects if you see that to the right um most of them are galaxies
and if I look at all of them and I just highlight I'll just show you
uh this is this is the list of objects that I observed on one one day one one
evening I should say last Friday we had a clear night here in Seattle it was raining the rest of the time but I I was
able to get in and out of out of all these objects
um well I went through my list and I categorize I put descriptions on each of those
and if I go to best and brightest what I do is I after when it's a rainy time or
or it's the daytime and I'm finished by observing I actually filtered that out
and let's just highlight and now you can see I choose the objects
that are easily visible like for example some of the things might some of the
galaxies might have a good high surface brightness so even if there's a moon or
or something you can actually still detect it and see some structures sometimes you'll be deceived and you say
you know maybe it's a 12 magnitude uh like for example this galaxy right here is 11.9 uh this one here 11.7 this one
here is at 12.5 so that 12.5 but it's a small Galaxy so it has a high uh surface
brightness and what and I still can describe it as a distinct oval patch with a brighter core you can actually
see it's a little bit of structure in that even though it's at magnitude 12.5 I have Bortles six to seven skies in my
my backyard here in Seattle um and uh my my purpose of doing this is
you know one of the frustrations when you're doing star hopping I used to have an 18 inch uh dobsonian
um you know one of the frustrations especially in a partially light light polluted sky is a Surface brightness
right you you can look at objects and you may not have a chance of finding it
um whereas if you uh you know as you get more experience and you have now with the go-to technology I can start to um
try and heal it and and see what is detectable and what is not and that helps me when I get the next season the
next time it comes through I want to image these brighter objects and uh what's really fun about this uh
what what this process I'm going through is you of of kind of rediscovering and
re-serving constellation by constellation is uh you can find some
real nice nuggets like for example in links there's this quite a bright Galaxy NGC 2683 that I discovered and I was
very happy and it's a magnitude 9.1 it's not a Messier object but uh it's a
beautiful object and if I look at my description um it's a beautiful bright elongated oval
with a hint of modeling and a brighter's core and actually if you look at it uh you know I'm going to take an image of
this in the in the future with my smartphone but um basically it's it has
a very nice sharp edges it's almost Edge on um but I I'll be able to have a more
complete uh you know description as I'm building my my experience here and
and uh you know starting to have uh you know a database if you will of of
objects um this will be nice for everyone to share with everyone so that if you're on a night and you're
wondering what what objects to see beyond the the main objects you can you can look at this list and I'll have uh
I'm going to be getting an Imaging system I have I have a smartphone I've been using that it's very good
but I want to start to kind of do parallel processing if you will so I
have one telescope which is doing Imaging and the other one I can do observing and and I kind of working at
the same time and uh and and uh so I just wanted to share with you uh you know my progress so like I said last
week I was in links um I haven't it's an altaz and if I don't have an equatorial so Zenith is my
even though it's the best part of the sky I don't have my go my uh my altaz it
has kind of a dark hole there just like a dobsonian it's very difficult to see a Zenith so I have to wait until uh like
Leo Miner is another one I need to get in and ER and I didn't get a chance to finish her so major there's tons of
galaxies that isn't there but I um but as you can see here uh you know I
finished um
and Virgo was a major major deal but larger cluster of galaxies it's huge
huge and then of course huge now is the time to observe Virgo because
it's it's full of I don't know if uh you Maxi
took a picture maybe with the reflex camera of the of the change
I try to I try to do it with the the F4
but I have too many like pollution right here we have a Mercury light and they
are changing to a LED so they are killing me right now but I want to go to
a farm from a friend to do a good night
pictures of a bigger girl and the American change chain yes yeah it's
beautiful and and here's an uh what I wanted to do my next step is you know here's mercurian's chain and and I this
is Sky Safari uh plus but I also I I'm like I said I'm getting an Imaging
system here um you you you show us last week or two
weeks ago uh Cameron uh pictures of of do you have that again
the the pictures of galaxies that you took absolutely absolutely let me let me
share let me stop sharing here yeah yeah that let me do the disconnect thanks uh Caesar so let me go and share
see here I got uh I don't know if this is the one that
let's just take a look at that one I don't remember if it was in the in the
Virgo cluster but this galaxy I don't remember what object it was but I I
remember that was two elliptic galaxies I think absolutely this was before uh I
have another one I just see here um
give me a second uh to do with uh you know probably here
Zoom oh yeah I think it's one of these because I
remember that we say whoa and we say the Galaxy is a but I don't remember the
what object it was do you remember Scott that
Cameron had uh yes it wasn't it was Orion no it was it must
have been um [Music] you have a wonderful pictures of Orion
that's just a Ryan [Laughter] no no okay well oh here's the one yeah
yeah this is the one okay perfect okay uh they have a variable they have a variable object um yeah I was just doing
a couple of years yes Yeah so basically uh I had some pictures
of them and let me put this in presentation mode
and make sure that I'm
duplicate slideshow there we go
okay are you able to see my screen now yes yes we we can okay perfectly
yeah so we have the Eskimo clown face the nebula um and then needle Galaxy well Galaxy
hockey stick Galaxy and Whirlpool Galaxy this is the one of course Libby was talking about earlier so and then I also
had the ghost from Jupiter so if I just skip ahead uh this was the telescope I used equipment
um I've used uh uh the Mac 102 as well and so when I saw maximiliano's
um um you know the way he had it set up that's that's very familiar I so this is
just the moon um some Moon pictures here here's how those variables uh nebula so
I did uh I took a couple of pictures I was amazed how bright it was it was and you can actually see some structure in
here and then I did a this is my first uh stock uh attempt uh I didn't do much
uh you know processing so that but this uh you know it was it shows some nebulosity more than just the uh the
main nebula so that was kind of neat um and then if we here's Orion
um I had this artifact uh that I haven't figured out how to get rid of this infrared but it hasn't it the night what
I like about this picture is you can still see the uh trapezium a little bit
I had the same issue with the infrared sensor I only used a black tape of cable
yes yes and I forgot it yes you were right you know what and by the way I do
that too and it would be much worse but what happens is with my phone they put it right beside the camera so there I
can't it gets between the glass and so you're you do the right things so your infrared is a little bit off obviously
with the uh with uh what's it xiaomi or or the sorry the um Huawei right we have
a Huawei phone yes yes yeah mine's a Samsung phone and then
we we the way they put the infrared sensor it unfortunately I I I use the
electrical tape you I I like your idea unfortunately it gets in there but uh
but good good and then um
um this is this is pretty good you can see that the uh the actual outer ring has a little bit of structure
um and I played it with some of the io settings uh on the on a pro uh uh Pro
mode on my on my camera and so that was the best and then um here's this was really neat uh in m46
uh in in um uh Guinness major um there is a a a a cluster a star
cluster with a um which is m46 and then there's a planetary nebula puff this
little puff and I believe you can see here I was able to eke out so that was that was fun
um and then getting to the galaxies uh this is our uh the the galaxy of the
night of course uh and um NGC uh four five six five Nadal Galaxy and I was
playing with different ISO settings I didn't do any stretching or anything but I'm sure if I if I did some uh
processing here I can probably get some nice uh a nice image yes do you have do
you have a laser like this for processing for a stacking you have a treasure there yes yeah yeah exactly you
have a great information yeah thanks thanks and and so I I didn't
um but I this was just direct uh picture and then uh here you can barely see uh
whale Galaxy um NGC four six three one um so you can see and here you can see a
little bit of brightness there yes this is actually a really nice Galaxy it's quite quite large and has some good
structure to it visually yeah have you uh if you considered ripping the lens
out of that Samsung uh I heard what you said yeah Yes actually yes I know a guy
I know a guy now that can help you with that and uh yeah you know so yes yes
will give you a lot of very short feel of the phone fob but
with a Newtonian you can do it okay yeah
totally totally yeah let me find a picture of what I took with the F5 and
and the Huawei P10 without the lens uh doing 30 seconds of a M83 and the the
pilers of creation oh yeah yeah when you find it I remember this picture
yeah yeah and then this this one here I was happy I love m106 m106 and uh or
some major uh it's a really nice um it has you can see the spiral
structure here and here's a zoom and you can actually see the uh the dust Lanes in the core uh and and some of the
spiral structure and again no processing just uh direct uh picture so I really
like to like to see that and then um and then here's uh you know Libby's M51
and and this actually is a good representation of almost what you're going to see here and here's a here's a
um yeah zoomed in version of different uh processes you can see quite when you go
to the iso 3200 with the gain it gets quite uh greeny
um but uh and also this is zoomed in right so there's some pixelation but uh
but it's you know I it would be really nice to hear what Libby says when she
sees the spiral arms for herself uh first time but it's it's a beautiful thing oh yeah um yeah yeah sure and then
uh and then goes to Jupiter uh you know some nice bright I love planetary
and and you can actually see a little bit of structure you know you can see the central star uh you can see uh the
the ring and anise uh and say and of course the outer ring so I was happy
with that and then the other one here sorry oh sorry yeah no no no it's a question
about this this is uh uh all are single shots single lights no not the second
yeah no processing no nothing uh just just direct and not even not even raw
format or anything yeah I I just I just took to the direct picture you you have
a goal in your hands you can start to to taking raw and with the same lights do
you have a great information to start to stack and processing because it's very
easy and we can help you and and encourage you to to stacking and
processing excellent oh thanks a lot Caesar that's that's that's really nice
and then and then I had this other picture I forgot this is this is funny uh I I don't know what uh I don't want I
don't know what galaxy this was but this is actually a good representation of what I saw in links
um you know that Galaxy it had a really nice kind of Edge on uh pointed pointed
uh Edge he could very similar to what you see in through the eye IPS but I
forgot which one this was I I didn't keep track that's the only thing with smartphone you start to get a little bit
carried away and then sometimes you forget but in you yeah yes yes
it's a great it's a great great material for for to start to because when do you
have a great light that one single light you you can see the shape of the Galaxy
and you have something to start to to to work and it it's not it's you know that
you Cameron have a technique and have a great technique in your pictures and if
you start to to work in in stacking and processing come on do you have a goal in your in your hands
because uh with with uh this quality of
single shots you you have you have a you have a great thing like a maxi when it
started to to to ask me about uh eyepiece and blah blah blah and actually
well he he's using reflex cover about maybe every time you return to the to
the old love that is the the smartphones sometimes yeah yeah I think I think
there's you know just just and this has been uh spoken about many times Caesar
and you know by Scott and and a lot of the experience uh astronomers like yourself is is that um there is a uh you
need a a you need a range of tools right you need a range of tools there's no one
magical uh hole in one machine so to speak absolutely yeah you need you need
to use everything so I what I what I what I mean to say is is that I'm I
really am enjoying a smartphone just like maximiliano said at the beginning uh smartphone is a great way to uh to
kind of get your get over into the the big step into uh astrophotography uh and
and really kind of be within reach right within a region very modest budget you
can get in there and then you get motivated because you absolutely
yes absolutely and then and then once you get that then you start like I I I'm
so excited about it but I actually ended up like I bought an I have an ASI error
I just got it was just delivered from opt yesterday and then I got in and then
I got a zwa0 294 uh coming on in in a couple of weeks
yeah I'm starting to get hooked I'm starting to get hooked
up yes come on and and really really like
you you first of all you are very uh
smart uh to to choose the view the fields of the objects
you know a lot of magnitudes or what is the more interesting things to to take
pictures and now come on in your in your hand uh cwvo who is the number
and it's four point something uh Micron so it's it's a wide field uh yeah yeah
it gives me a very wide field the 183 or whatever I forgot what it was that's a good one too but I I'm thinking of
actually getting multiple right because uh I I want to be able to do uh planetary as well
no yes it's it for for deep Skies too no of course that especially for the sky I
think exactly and so what I want to do
um I'm gonna let me just actually I'll just finish up um these presentation here uh I let me go here
um yeah it always goes into this uh funny presentation camera
need you need the uh Apple or extra scientific 80 millimeters you don't have
a an apple refractor you hit an area which I am so excited I
mean Scott knows this I I have uh I have been on order with the 80 millimeter the
ed-80 FCD 100. uh I I'm I'm that's that's in the in the queue and I I
ordered it in and uh you know we we know the the situation of course right with
uh oh yes yes I I I know especially Scott but I'm patient don't worry I I
know I know at this I know what that baby can do and I'm I'm very much looking forward to coupling that uh and
using using that absolutely it's gonna be beautiful and uh and uh in fact in
fact uh sorry I'm I'm gonna jump around a little bit here I'm going to share
my screen okay let me share my screen
so basically I'm going to share my screen I'm going to use uh I'm going to share Sky Safari
Pro now so let me is this Pro yeah I guess so uh
let me let me go into uh so I'm gonna go to markarian's train now
but is this a pro let's hear wait a minute that's Pro yeah
and I'm going to change the magnitudes so if you compare I'm going to put on
my observing list and the nice part is uh
because I have the synchronizing I can actually
okay so here's the view in Pro okay now if if I go to Plus
this is the view oh it already moved because of the I'm sorry do you do you
use this program to to manage or drive your your
um Evolution yes six okay okay uh this is yes yeah
so let's compare the two like here this goes down to magnitude uh 13 let's say
uh but what happens is when I get into Imaging right I'm gonna see a lot more galaxies
like look at down here the eyes right eyes are a beautiful pair uh even visually right I mean uh but look at
these galaxies just the the south of there that you don't see in here because
what's going to happen is I'm gonna but if I turn my on my imager let's go back to the uh to the to the other one
um okay and then I go scope display I've already added I have by the way here's my 8080 you can see I have a Mac 102 uh
and I have my ed80 already ready to go um and then and then I have my uh you
know my eight inch Smith Castle greens yes it's nice because you organize your feel of vision or or the the
yeah and yes so I have I have the FC 6.3 uh focal
reducer already on my Schmidt gas brain so that's going to give me uh the maximum field of view on my
Schmidt cast screen right uh but you compare it let's compare that with the uh your yours
eight inches eight inch yeah eight inch Nickel in two
thousand uh 32 millimeter focal length but I'm but I can reduce it to around
1300 uh I forgot what it is but f6.3 now I'm going to compare the a set to 294.
let's look at the image uh scale so here's the two image scale so you can
see uh that one Circle in the middle by the way that's that's my 13 millimeter nagler which gives me 156 power in my
eight inches yeah so you can see that with if I use uh so that's my visual and
if I if I put my uh 294 on an f6.3 in my in my eight inch micasa green
um guess what you have you have the full field of view um uh within that so it's perfect for
Galaxies right perfect for galaxies and then and then uh but but then I have my
ed-80 so I can get the entire markarians chain with the ed-80 uh without any uh
reducer yes the entire the entire uh mercaran change in the in the field yes
exactly exactly exactly yes and so uh yep yep yeah the most the the most of of
uh the the program normally with with uh Schmidt casseriences that you have a a
small field of view and uh um but of course for any type of image
do you have the solution in different telescopes it doesn't exist a telescope that
can come be for for
any situation uh is it the best excuse that we have to to have many telescopes
oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah and then what I want to do is I want to mix and
match like I'm going to uh you know I'm gonna piggyback uh my 8080 on on the uh
on the um you know eight inch and then and then I can use it also as a guide
scope or or or I can have two different images I I ultimately I want to play
with different things uh yes and find you know different nights are going to have different uh situations right and
so so I might uh I might want to observe in one and then an image with the other
that type of thing so it's really fun I mean uh like and it all started because of that smartphone stuff I showed you
earlier just being able to enhance the visual because I've been a visual Observer for many years and now being
able to augment that with with the Imaging capabilities you know it's and smartphone it's really wonderful sure
and and you use him more like like to have a register of your views
as much of the smartphone yeah this is great yes yes yes yes
I I found the the emergency if you want to see it uh yes okay
let me show you yeah I'll stop sharing yeah
wait a second show us the the the this pictures uh okay Max is out
okay you you see yes yes okay
this is from my Instagram but because I I couldn't find another place you can see the the pillar for
creation and the Eagle Nebula and this is where the
100 uh 50 millimeters F5 and the cell phone
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whoa not amazing this guy yes no no normally normally I I comment in
the Maxi uh you did again Maxi
I'm like commentary come on
gorgeous you know what we know what's really neat about this maximilia is actually this is very natural looking
it's it's actually this is very natural like there's a lot of processing you know that's done this what I mean is is
when I see this nebula it actually really looks like the way the nebula would really look if you were closer to
it you know what I mean yes um it's really very very good very nice well this is from the south
El Eric
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the star and this is the kahoe yeah this is a really really huge small
sorry no it's only sorry I have this
and it's going to be so bright that it's going to be visible with the naked eye in playing daylight yes
it was the for many years the most massive binary system known uh still is
one of the most massive systems solar masses solar mass is 1 and 60 solar
masses the other the other stuff wow the thing is huge and it's close yeah
and here's the homunculus behind The Star
you can see the code yes yes
sir party we Norm using using a uh my my
11 inches Medical Center that I don't have anymore unfortunately uh we we see like a gold
color in in the in the area of attack Arena yes it's amazing ah this is this
is with a cell phone too yes this is the M83
no no no we need to repeat this yeah yeah but only for for because we
are in the after party but uh no you know what you know what's so nice I mean it's beautiful what what what were the
skies like Mass miliana when you took this picture what was the sky condition no it was it was great it's great it's
not doing a science no no it it's not the city like one of the
five or six five yeah and this here's the first example yeah
this was 30 seconds and I think was uh 20 minutes stuck it but because of
the the the zoom that have here of the fob
I can I can't have more light but that's why I use that application deep
Sky stacker is this deep Sky camera that's a
foreign to do a lot of pictures in a very short
time yes yes you know what's amazing here oh that's nice wow
this was with the 200 millimeters of a friend from Alberti
in a city from here in Marcos man you're
so lucky in the South you get both best nebulas you know wow do you have a ride
we share all right so many galaxies
yes we need something like this or for the pictures of M31 come on yes
for our next Global Safari uh something prepared with about
galaxies or or nebulas yeah this is great
yeah beautiful beautiful no is you know what what's amazing about that is I
think it was said in previous ones seeing the Unseen right to be able to detect that spiral structure that is
just beyond you know that like via Galaxy I forgot what was the one uh that you showed with the spiral arms
um pt3 the M83 so M83 if you see that visually
if you're lucky you'll see the bar right the central bar and and and and you
might in the dark sky for sure you'll see the tendrils of the Spiral arms right but but you have to be in the dark
sky because they're very subtle piece on Galaxies so so sensitive to uh to bad
portal uh or bad light pollution uh but but but boy if you have those Dark Skies
or if you have a smartphone uh yeah you can pull out that that spiral
structure that on face on that's that's that's beautiful I love that yeah yeah that's very nice
yeah wow thank you Caesar thank you that's really
nice thank you thank you everyone thank you everyone really really we enjoy this
44 Safari and yes I think that we we can
we can keep more information on more pictures we can make a contest uh where
if you win you can put a telescope in the piggyback of the Eric Gonzalez uh
Observatory
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piggyback place oh amazing this night last night we we so things
really amazing and uh really I appreciate and
and for me was an excellent experience to to share with you and be a a call a
host with Scott Roberts yeah I mean you are our special guest host not of course
yeah yeah it was great you did a great job Cesar you guys awesome really
interesting people on and uh we made new friends and that's that's what it's all about so thank you thank you
um I uh Eric I will add you to the um to the group as well as for you Maxie and
uh you guys are welcome on anytime okay great meeting you guys
thank you well okay so um I I guess this kind of wraps it up uh for tonight uh we
have uh as I I mentioned in chat uh the
next Global star party will be number 45 it will be held during the international
uh astronomy Day on May 15th and uh the special guest host for that will be the
Montreal chapter of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada and so
but they're they're really looking forward to having International people on um they want both hemispheres uh
attending and um so uh you know I want you know I hope that all of you come
back on for that particular event I will be sending out more information as I know
exactly what time they want to start they want to start a little bit earlier than than what we started what we
normally start this one which works out pretty good for those of you in Argentina so
um so anyways but it was an honor and it was wonderful and we saw some great
images we had a lot of fun and uh so thank you very much and
um thank you so much to all the audience I was interested and shared and supported this program we will uh we as
my good friend Jack Clark Heimer would always say keep looking up and we'll see
you next time take care yes thank you all right thanks all right cheers guys
everyone thank you thank you thank you Maxi thank you Cameron thank you thank you
see ya guys so
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