Transcript:
7:00 p.m..Scott Roberts: Welcome and Intro
watch the star party but more like um breaking down different subjects like
7:05 p.m..David Levy: Welcome and Poetry
engineering and um engineering astronomy and other things like that for kids my age
7:15 p.m..David J. Eicher The Universe in a Microscope
[Music] well it's good to see you back Libby it's good to see everybody I miss and I
was telling all my friends at space camp I was like I have so many fun astronomy friends I
7:35 p.m..Chuck Allen Astronomical League Door Prizes
mean as like a lot of them aren't my age you you just love to talk to them
because I never really get a lot of kids in my area who are interested so
7:45 p.m..Deepti Gautam
well we might not be your age but we're all kids at heart we're all yeah Children of the Earth
[Music] age doesn't matter but I know I still want to get kids interested because it's
important because you know there won't be NASA there's no kids or because kids turn into adults
8:00 p.m..Libby in the Stars
and there's no kids to run it or anything because there's nobody to even run NASA so we have to carry the torch
8:15 p.m..Conal Richards - The Universe in a 6-inch Scope
so it's like there will be no NASA and then we'll just we won't really be able
to get anywhere in the universe and especially for the people who want to get somewhere in the universe it's not as fun but you just have to ignite
passion and let everybody know what is out there in the universe
8:30 p.m..Ten Minute Break
yeah it's all about planting the seed and awareness and that's great that's great maybe
8:40 p.m..Cesar Brollo - Southern Hemisphere Skies
doing great
9:00 p.m..Jerry Hubbell – The MSRO Cosmos
well we are having a the probably one of the best summer storm Seasons we've had
in decades it is just coming down we just had a rain of about at least a
9:15 p.m..Maxi Falieres – Astrophotography in Argentina
tenth of an inch and uh over the weekend since our last
Global star party we have had almost five inches of rain is just comes down in buckets and wow we
really need it and we love it yeah yeah that's the rain water is life
9:30 p.m..Adrian Bradley Nightscapes
I mean uh I mean you it's one of the key ingredients and I think last last week
was the doctor um hopefully forgot his last name uh professor
9:45 p.m..Cameron Gillis - Camstronomy
Mass um
and you know he was he was talking about the ingredients for life right you need Earth and it's a solid you need some gas
10:00 p.m..Ten Minute Break - After Party
and you do you need water in liquid form and uh and then what was the other one
um energy of course yeah just now in fact just now I saw greeting he was a
10:10 p.m..Pekka Hautala - Connections with the Universe
lovely little a gopher snake and right in front of our house and he said
it's wet out here and I said yes it is can I join the global star party tonight
10:25 p.m..General Discussion
and I said well I'd like to let you but I don't think so it would be a little
difficult I mean I could hold your tongs or something but um
I think that would be kind of interesting if you were to talk about a serpentine view of the stars but uh
probably not tonight good try good try you had the right
intention yeah hello Jerry hey good to see you hi David how are you
oh pretty well thank you good
11:00 p.m..Rodrigo Zelada's Universe
I'm changing my moniker
Gerald Jerry Hubble is a very well-known part of explore
scientific and he is also on the editing board over
at Springer and we're really honored to have him here today
thanks thank you David trying to get the observatory up and
running had some few issues with my internet here a few minutes ago I restarted my router and got it all back
Jerry did a great show earlier today on photometry oh thank you that was that
was that was awesome Jerry thanks thank you goodbye everyone I really today I I
enjoy the the photometry of course that I I copy every link that that you
post hi camera how are you hey good how are you awesome
and uh today was an excellent show of uh about photometry and and I I'll I'm not
uh tried yet to change some some file
from CR2 or raw files from the VSR Isle
cameras it's really nice because it's something
that when the people when the amateur astronomers looks some worried about about take
pictures it's great to put them to make
some science starting to to take to to start to to take photochromic
photometrics sorry measurements of stars is really great
it's really helping for maybe you know maybe they can start to to found a
steroids or observing the rotation of the asteroids taking the
taking the photometric values it's great because when you have the The
Cure of flags of an asteroids and maybe
with a six inches telescope um many material streamers don't know
that they can do it they can take measures automatic measures
there of that of an asteroids
that get the data to to know the shape in the rotation it's incredible
there's a good comments is ours good to see you here I did want to show you a
copy of one of my um Springer books this is one that was came out a few years ago
one of my more academic publishings and uh just wanted to show you the cover of it
that's nice oh yeah nice yeah
oh very nice those were the days when I knew how to write [Laughter]
I'm sure you still know how to still know how to write I may not yeah you may not want to as
much but again I I read I already returned later
because I I had to work in a 10 minutes more to get support to our customers to
to start to use astrophotography and it's with the access 100 and I'll
disconnect and disconnect and connecting later again
but I I liked it started with with the growth in the early connection
right on good flexes are good stuff look forward to seeing you later man yes okay I
return late bye bye oh yeah all right see you sir bye-bye I uh
I I relate writing a book to eating an elephant eating an elephant yeah you're right
it's the same process yeah bit by bit it's one bit it's one
bite at a time you just have to work through it yeah it's true you have to have a road map
um
it's good to spend uh a month or two just working on the outline for the book and and identify
every every chapter and every section in each chapter
it's kind of like writing a program in a way also
we're going to find out tonight if we have a place in the universe yes
foreign I like that quote you and I are
have as much connection or uh you know content you and I are all as
much continuous with the physical universe as a wave is continuous with the ocean
I like that I do too yeah nice quote I don't know if you ever
have you ever watched Lewis Black he's a comedian he uh he had a bit about Starbucks in the center of the universe
Starbucks yeah so he was a New Yorker so I guess he was in New York and he faced
the Starbucks on the corner and he turned around and there was a Starbucks on the opposite corner
he said he reached the center of the universe right there it's all right just
don't get sucked down a black hole so he knew his place in the universe at Starbucks
you got to start somewhere
okay I think everybody's ready to get started what do you think
I think we're just about ready yeah just deep breaths and lifting weights and uh lifting some weights uh
doing some push-ups during the Olympics I am yeah
okay I think we will get started then here we go
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well hello everyone this is Scott Roberts from explore scientific and the explore Alliance and
um tonight we are celebrating the 56th Global Star Party
um and we have uh we have uh regulars that have not been around for a while
because of other other activities they're involved with but there many of
them are here tonight um including uh of course David Levy is always here with us but we've got David
eicher who's returned after uh I think he was at uh space Fest and a couple of
other things as well and we have Rodrigo zaleida who is
studying uh and I'm not sure if he's already involved with a professional research team right now but he's he's
kind of uh Crossing that bridge from amateur to professional he's going to be back on the show tonight
um which is totally cool Libby and the Stars she was at space camp and uh you
know so that that I know she had a lot of fun with that um you know it was a great experience for her
um and we have other people on uh tonight as well uh Chuck Allen from the
astronomical League deep Teague Tom from Nepal uh Colonel Richards will be on
with us later in this segment uh and then of course we have uh the contingent from
South America we've got Caesar brolo Maxi filarez and um of course Rodrigo as
I mentioned earlier um and then we will have uh Pekka
haltala will be coming on Cameron Gillis is on with us Adrian Bradley
um so it's it should be a great night of uh of astronomy and lectures and um uh
you know and Jerry Hubble we'll hopefully he's got some clear skies we can get some live views through the mark
Slade remote Observatory so um I will get started at first by
introducing my dear friend David Levy David is in Arizona they have been
swamped with water because of the monsoon um but uh you know I think that I think
that Arizona is dry as it can be sometimes you can certainly use the water so
um but uh David uh you know it's it's great to have you on the on all of our
star parties I was sitting back today thinking about uh things like the great
conjunction and uh some of the other you know the other events that we that we
did together uh just in this it's been almost a year uh August 4th uh
this summer will be one whole year of global star parties and we're already we're already past uh fat past our our
56th uh one so uh at times we did more than uh more than uh one a week we were
doing a couple a week at some point so but there's so much going on in the sky
uh so much to talk about um and for me it's kind of Evergreen you
know and people people like the people I'm with tonight um uh you know inspire me and they keep
me going and uh you know I know they keep you going too and so uh we'll turn
this over to David Levy uh now and um uh thanks for thanks for doing all that
you've done for us David thank you Scott and it's uh really wonderful out here
between the last Global start party and tonight's Global Star Party
our home has seen over five inches inches of rain
it has just been coming down in buckets wow it's almost like God is knocked on
the door and said more water and the last tenth of an inch has
happened within the last 25 minutes and uh we are just so pleased our desert is
turning so green and we're just lovely and I wanted to share with you that I
had a conversation with one of the other species
hmm I think we lost David here
let's see if he can come back on
well you know what he might have had a lightning hit or something like that that's possible
oh wait fronti says he got rained out yeah well we'll come back to David uh if he
can come back on um so that it bumps our schedule up just a
little bit but that's that's okay um uh David icker has uh spent a lot of
time in Arizona recently he was at space fast um hanging out with astronauts
um and I think he took some time just to kind of relax and check out what uh Arizona has to offer
David how you doing man I'm doing well and and I was up in
Flagstaff recently as well at Lowell Observatory where there's a huge huge
new Museum project that is uh launching this kind of exciting um in a few years there'll be a 38 and a
half million dollar new Museum complex on Mars Hill so that's an exciting development as well
wow that's great is uh Ian McLennan and Bill Peter's involved with that
exactly yes indeed they are they're working on that with a pal of mine named
Glenn Smith as well they're all planetarium people yeah uh yep so they're they're working on that and and
there's going to be actually not to go on and on about this but David is almost back
um but we there will be an open air planetarium on the roof of this Museum
in which people will see the real sky and have planetary discussions as well
as theaters inside the building so anyway we've got David back okay that's great that's great hey David you made it
I'm back I'm back okay and um I was just I'm sorry about
that but uh you know when you're dealing with technology um I was in the middle of telling you
about a little serpentium that I just bumped into about half an hour ago right
outside our back door and he said it's raining can I join the
global star party tonight and I said what would you have to offer and he said she has a little Serpentine said
I look at the stars more than you do every night I'm out looking at the stars in fact I want you to show me the
telescope and I said I don't think I can do that very safely but uh you're welcome to come in and
join the global star party so tonight it's possible that our little gopher snake will join
us at the start party to tell us about his view of the night sky until that
happens I wish to introduce you to a very famous American writer Ralph Waldo Emerson
when I was in college I didn't study him that much preferring instead his best
friend Henry David Thoreau but he has had wonderful things to say
about the Stars and I read this particular line as the introduction to one of uh Isaac
asimov's books and I'd like to share that with you right now he wrote this in 1836 in his
essay on nature to go into Solitude someone needs to
retire as much from his chamber as from society I am not solitary while I will Wilt I
read and write nobody is with me but if a man would be alone let him look
at the stars the Rays that come from those heavenly worlds will separate between him
and why he touches one might think that the atmosphere was made transparent with his design to give
us in the heavenly bodies the Perpetual presence of the sublime
seeing in the streets of cities how great they are and this is the part that really gets to me
if the stars should appear One Night in a thousand years how would we believe and adore and
preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God which have been shown
but every night come out these envoys of beauty unlike the universe with their
admonishing smile back to you Scotty excellent it was beautiful
it was beautiful poem great um uh you know the theme of our program
tonight is um you know our place in the universe and that that meaning uh is of
course different from for everybody I mean there's a scientific meaning for it but there is uh the experiential meaning
of it too you know what what is you know finding your your your your place
amongst everything that's going on in your life you know and uh
um you know for me uh I think almost the moment I really got involved in
astronomy a lot of things clicked you know I uh started to understand
um not only um you know scientifically where where we
are in the universe uh of course we learn more and more about that all the time I mean it's a scientific method
right we used to think that the Universe was a certain size in age and now it's another size and age and sometimes that
number gets revised um and there are constant discoveries going on uh David eicher is
um you know clear to point out that we are living in a golden age of astronomy
um and uh the dialogue that goes along with that uh helps us to understand uh
you know our relationship with the universe uh and uh the path that that
we're that we think we're taking so um today he's um he's going to be
sharing with us uh views through his microscope and um so I'm going to turn
it over to you David thank you Scott and you know Libby when
we came on earlier was talking a little bit about Carl Sagan and I'm actually
coincidentally doing a bit of writing right now on a project that is just
starting up that that ties into this you you mentioned our place in the universe and we've talked about what we're made
out of and and there were products of the universe and looking uh microscopically at some of these
minerals and meteorites and so on and and uh it's interesting because Carl
years ago I was fortunate enough uh one of the first times that I spent uh made
with carving around a little bit was it a meeting in of all places Eau Claire Wisconsin
um it was a meeting called comets in the origin and evolution of Life which was
held in 1991 which I know is unfathomably unimaginably long ago to
some of our panelists here today um uh but but it was it was an important
meeting because at the time it was very uh in Vogue to think about comets
contributing a lot of water to early Earth and also Organics of course which
they contain small bodies in the solar system and and how that might have related to the origin of life on Earth
and so all this stuff ties together you know where we are in the universe
um of course as Carl said famously in Cosmos you know that the carbon in in
you know in apple pies and the iron in our bloodstream and so on and so forth came from uh stars and and so to look at
these elements and how they combine these atoms in specific ways and know
that the atoms in our bodies were literally made in stars for the most
part um is is pretty neat and and reflective on on where we are in the universe and
and how we relate to it um thank you yes sir of course I'm just going to say
that one of the things that I brought back from Cosmos was a line that he said that I've got to
repeat you now to create an apple pie from scratch you
must first invent the universe that's another he was pretty good wasn't
he and then of course there was Joni
Mitchell who said uh you know we're Stardust we're golden we're billion year
old carbon but we need to find our way back to the guard you know there's that song that that popularized uh this
notion even before Cosmos as well um that that uh Crosby Stills Nash and
Young had actually a sort of a bigger hit with in the public Consciousness there but
you know as we know we've talked about already that uh and forgive my aqua blue screen but
that's the out-of-focus microscope I'll get to in a moment here but we've talked already about you know where does the
stuff of the universe where did it come from because as we know early on it was energy uh and and energy and mass or in
inter con are um you know our exchangeable uh
quantities of the same thing which of course E equals m c squared tells us c squared being a constant the speed of
light so you know we can eat a cookie and run across the yard and convert that
mass into energy part um and it's amazing because now we
actually know in last uh decade or so much more accurately where the elements
came from and therefore where the atoms within us came from and of course with hydrogen and helium and a little bit of
lithium it was Big Bang nucleosynthesis very early on in the history of the
universe but as we've talked about also many of the uh heavier and and more uh important
if you will uh elements came from exploding Stars either dying low mass
stars many of them or supernovae high mass stars that exploded
catastrophically or in the the uh case of some of the heavier metals of things
that we like for industry and jewelry and so on including Gold Silver and platinum from merging neutron stars that
we can see occasionally in the universe as a gamma-ray bursts
so you know we're literally made of atoms that have been sent forth into the
cosmos mixed around and eventually ended up in our bodies which is uh pretty
incredible so let's see if we can take a a look at a couple of common things here
we'll start with um I don't know if you can see this here but this is some of it's a little
shinier than than other parts this is native copper which of course is an
element and a very simple stuff and and largely comes from uh supernovae or
originally the the copper atoms or uh exploding white dwarf stars as well at
the ends of their lives so that's ordinary you know not super attractive
stuff but then if we go to copper iron sulfide this is uh what mineralogists
call chalka Pi Rider calca pyrite um this is uh you know elements getting
together and and mixing together and you can see there's some iridescent colors beautiful uh that form from from
oxidation from oxygen of course oxygen really really likes to react with
everything very easily and so this is a copper iron sulfide that that has been
oxidized a bit too that gives us those pretty color
you can see it perfectly excellent excellent excellent then some
things are as I said are more exotic and they crystallize in ways now this is the
result of uh neutron stars that collided I don't know if you can see these and
we've got this microscope is quite high powered um but you can see these little wires
this is native silver this is from combsburg Norway a famous silver
locality and you can see that silver often crystallizes in wires and as I
said silver gold and platinum all uh originally resulted
um the origin of the elements from neutron stars that collided uh which
gives us nice jewelry among other things in our culture
um and we can go to a real exotic uh
Maybe
there we go sorry about that got different distances here
um this is a little cube of plaque
and you can see it magnified here it's uh maybe a little less than a centimeter
in diameter here and uh so there's a little bit of iron in this but it's mostly Platinum which is quite a rare
metal and that again is the result of merging neutron stars then there's some
really ugly stuff as well but it's kind of neat and I thought I'd just show this it doesn't look like much it's kind of a
black sphere and in a moment I'll change cameras here and just kind of quickly if
I can show these so you can see the whole specimen at once but sometimes minerals come from really strange places
we think of just the the areas we like to traipe surround on on Earth's surface
here this is a ferromanganese nodule that's iron and manganese and a little
bit of carbon and a little bit of oxygen that's from the ocean floor of the
Pacific South of Hawaii so it turns out if you get down to you know uh the floor
of the ocean and you miss all the shipwrecks you get lots and lots of these Pharaoh manganese nodules that are
along the ocean floor that occasionally there's a substance down and infections
a few other hard to come by and uh kind of ugly too
then I thought this is really only partly a mineral but I thought I'd show this for fun because there is a you know
we're living beings we're sentient we can talk as we always do about the meaning of all of this and the universe
and look out and understand galaxies and so on there's a kind of a bridge
sometimes but we mineral the mineral world and the Living World
um and some of them actually change uh with each other over time intervals that we can talk about later but this is if I
can focus it here this is just one example here of a living being that is
trapped this is 20 million year old Amber tree resin fossilized tree resin
from the Dominican Republic and this is a uh an opera this is a a fossilized
winged ant that's 20 million years old so if we could get into the this thing
and extract the DNA it would be in there and that's the cracked surface there that you see of the of the Amber that's
been polished and there's the the winged ant and you know we know we could not you know clone one and bring it back to
life you know uh a la Jurassic Park I'm afraid but there is 20 million year old
DNA in there so that's kind of a bridge that preserves a lot of life that we can
study on Earth helped out by a little bit of mineralogy here so now I think it's fun just to show a
few of these from time to time and if I can get back into my preferences here
and it will allow me maybe I can quickly switch cameras and I'll just show you if
this works can you see me not yet
no I couldn't see me you see you
you can't see me I can see you now yep yeah okay yeah maybe it just took a
minute so I just wanted to show you here I'll hold them up a little bit closely but try to keep them in Focus this is
the copper specimen on top there you see the native bunch of copper there
crystallized that I showed it first and I thought it would be good to show this because the microscope is is a pretty
high magnification system here's by Metallica I write
there from gold to kind of uh A nice bright purple uh then we have this
little boot of uh silver mineral that's called a can fight and and then some
calc white calcite but the silver wires there are uh silvery colored stuff on
this specimen throw the focus out here
getting too close to that camera um there's a little tiny uh Cube as I
mentioned on top of this Mount here up on on the top uh there of a little tiny
cube of platinum that's of course quite a Rare Element much rarer than gold
um in its native form there are Ferro manganese nodule dredged from the ocean
floor looks like a little you know uh clump of of black uh Atari Rock not too
exciting visually but it's kind of neat to know what it is and then here is our
20 million year old winged ant that I don't know if you can see within that
Amber or not but I think about as well as we can try it yeah I think we're
getting a little bit of a video Freeze Frame here uh oh
let's see there we go
is that a little better yes it is so anyway another little say
random sampling of things that the Universe likes to make
and remember that all of the there are about seven octillion atoms in your body
on average a human being uh and that's seven billion billion billion atoms
and every one of those is a product of the universe most of them a product of of stars that lived long long ago so
that's a pretty neat thing to remember when you're falling asleep tonight Scott thanks and back thank you thank
you very much that's great okay um you know it's such a I mean huge
difference of seeing those things under the microscope versus you know especially when you saw that little uh
square of uh was it or platinum right so
yeah and and a lot of times you see these things and you don't think you don't
make like the instant connection oh yeah this this originated from uh a supernova
explosion or uh two neutron stars hitting against each other or something like that that's not the immediate thing
you jump to you might look at it and go wow that's beautiful you know where do they find that uh you know you're just
amazed at the color or shape of it or whatever or something you might do with it like make jewelry out of it or
something like that but um to know that it came from you know the
the fusion furnace of a star you know uh uh you know that exploded eons ago you
know is just that that really uh bends the mind that's for sure
um Scott as you said uh already you know we're we we only know this specifically
in in the last number of years that you can count on on a couple or three hands
so we are literally living in a golden age of beginning to understand the
origins of the elements where they came from and and why and how um so so it's a really privileged era to
be able to know that now which a generation ago we really didn't know with any kind of specificity you know
right that's right yeah and so it just uh in Our Generation
Um you know it's just amazing to have watched you know uh early Space
Explorers uh uh not knowing you know maybe hearing about the idea of a black
hole but not knowing that we have black holes um you know it was just and it's just been Discovery after discovery after
discovery so uh you know what a thrill it is for I think any astrophysicist or
any scientist today and almost any discipline because everyone's realizing it's all connected
so which is that and that helps to maybe put some perspective on your place in
the universe so you're connected to it all uh up next is uh Chuck Allen from the
astronomical League um the astronomical league is getting ready for their uh virtual event which
will happen um uh in um
August 19th through the 20th is that right August 19th through the 21st in uh
and it will be online and it's free Chuck are you with us
foreign it does not look like Chuck's with us
right now okay all right well we will I'm sure we'll catch him a little bit later then uh we I've noticed that we've
had a little bit of Internet issues here tonight so um
and uh why don't we move on straight over to Libby in the Stars
so I'm so excited to be back because I actually just got back from space camp and I really wanted to share the
experience because this is actually my second year going so um I made a presentation of all the
things I did so I really wanted to share it and share some photos and there's even Adult Space Camp so it's
never too late you can go all the way to near living so you're almost dead
because you can go at any age so I just wanted to share the experience so I want to go ahead and start presenting my
screen someone present so uh
here's a picture of me and my friends chilling in an astronaut capsule we decided to take a picture because we
were all like we found astronaut capsule that we went inside and we took pictures so we um it was just one that you walk
into we're all looking at all the controls so I want to talk about my journey into space camp first because
I live in northwest Arkansas and I really don't I don't like traveling in the plane as much I mean right now with
covid um if there was no covet right now I would travel in a plane but I love
going on a good road trip and it was um eight hours but earlier this year I
drove 21 hours up to Key Largo in Key West from my home so um it wasn't really much of a drive
since that 21 hour drive that made all the way up to Florida earlier this year
so we my journey up to space camp we um we did it all in one day and a big
nights of rest before we checked into space camp because that was a long long road trip
so I want to talk about the habitats so it's face camp you know you might not expect this but they try to make it look
as much like the International Space Station so this is what inside the back
um the rooms look like I took a picture before everybody else came in here and so I actually stayed right kind of up
above the desk and um the walls on the side of the building
are curved like this so that's what makes it look like the International Space Station but I kind of like to refer to it looking like a cruise ship
because the place is so big and there's kids running around everywhere and it and there's like all these you get like
a it just looks like the inside of a cruise ship because there's big railings and you can look over and it's just
gigantic so one of the first activities that we did was the 1 6 gravity chair so the one
six gravity chair was one of my favorite things to do at space camp I am I'm
really tall for my age so it was really funny I kept on jumping up and it was almost I was I was jumping up so high I
was surprised myself but um so they call it the one six gravity
chair because there's basically saying Earth's gravity as a whole and if the moon's gravity is
1 6 of Earth's gravity so that's what they're saying so um basically it's just a simulator what
it would be like to walk on the moon the with the gravity and everything except you don't have a I mean like astronaut
suit so it's kind of like that thank you and so one of the big things
that we do during the whole entire trip is you get to do um Mission day and I
remember we were um you get assigned a rule and so um she went around to me and she said do
you like explosions and I say yeah I do and she's and she said well you're gonna love your job you're a Fido so I was in
control of explosions which I was really happy about my job this time so I got
mission control again so you can either mean astronaut or Mission and control and I was really
I was really like I really want to be an astronaut because I was mission control last year but I got a different job and
so it was really fun getting to do all that and of course I get to have the big experience again of um wearing the giant
headset and being able to talk through it because you there's like 12 kids in the room there are more kids this year
which I was really happy about and um there are like 12 kids all lined up on
the big giant desk and all of us had rules and then everybody was just talking for the headset to the
astronauts and we had big screens like all over the walls and everything there were like four TVs
for a side of the room there are like eight TVs total in there and you can watch
um the security cameras showing the other kids in the team as astronauts
so the next thing that we did during the trip was a multi-axis trainer so this is
one of my favorite things to do at space camp so NASA they set up astronauts and
this was a while back and they the astronauts experience a temple spin so
they did not really expect to have a temple spoon so they didn't really have any training for it but they have to
keep their Consciousness so NASA made a trainer but then later decided to take
the trainer out of Astronaut training but now the space camp has it in a slightly slightly more kid-friendly so
um you were spun around in every single Direction you can be and it's just
spinning you around and you're um the people uh the people who work at space camp they ask you a bunch of questions
like basic questions like what's your favorite planet what's your favorite food what's your favorite animal
so that was one of the most fun things in the trip so I want to talk a little bit about
Mission patch so um while you're at space camp you get to do a mission patch and so this is my
team's Mission patch on the right right here and I actually drew the mission patch for my whole entire team because
they picked me to draw it and um we decided we wanted flying Tesla the
International Space Station along with 13 stars representing everybody in our group Mars and like what we like to call
the two potatoes because they look like potatoes as the moons and a capsule re-entering along
with everybody's name on the side so we actually won best Mission patch which I was really proud about because I um I
did the mission patch they chose one person out of the group to draw the mission patch and that was me so I was
really happy because I got to do it all and I was and we won the best Mission patch so um
we get to learn about what a mission patch does so they basically told us
for a while NASA didn't do Mission patches and then they started doing them because there were so many teams who did
like funny Mission patches but as I started taking them more seriously and um
soon enough I'm once you get a Graduation you get a
patch for your whole team that has everybody's last name on it that you can put on a jacket or anything so I'm gonna
get um I got a couple um a jacket I'm gonna get a jacket soon to put all my patches on from his face
camp and just missions that I like and so um while you're at space camp you also get
to talk to an astronaut which is a big part of the thing so we um all gather up
under the gigantic Southern V rocket inside and we have a big screen with a
um astronaut over Zoom talking to us and so he tells us a little about what we did so we met um so we got to meet Larry
De Lucas and last year we met Hoot Gibson so as so I was very sorry to meet
the astronaut you don't get to talk only a couple kids get to talk to him personally and ask questions because
there are so many kids that you know you can't really waste his time going
through and through improve every single kid but um I was glad I got a couple kids got to go
so Larry to Lucas um here I'm sure a couple of you know about him but um he
did Crystal um forming and crystal growing so he learned about that in space and so
um he tried to grow crystals in space and he told us a lot about that so um
space camp was very fun I was really glad I got to go um I was afraid it'd be the same
experience as last year and yeah that's the same stuff but it's the same stuff as you do last year but um
it's definitely not you know it's it's a different it's a different experience because you meet so many more people and
all the girls who are in my cabin from um this year we still keep in touch and
all of them were so interested in space and everything so um I hope soon I can get some work um
girls who were in my cabin on to the star party because I know they were all so deeply interested in space but um
I can't wait to go again next year we are actually signing up again next year because um I just love going and it's it's a fun
camp because I've gone to like a lot of outdoor camps where you're outdoors and
you know I love going in the outdoors that's one of my favorite things to do you know I love astronomy I love
mountain biking I love you know I used to I like rock climbing all that stuff and so
um I do all these activities outside but the camps were never just really fun for me but space camp was was really fun and
um I wanted to mention this to the audience but because um I mentioned this to everybody on the star party before
um the live broadcast started recording but you get um presentations while
you're at space camp um they teach you about space and everything and you know most of the
presentations we're just talking about engineering or NASA history or Like Satellites and stuff like that you
know none of them were really based about astronomy but we did have one talk about astronomy and the kid who was
giving the presentation he was about uh say 25. he said okay so does anybody
know who Carl Sagan is and I'm like jumping out of the audience raising my hand I'm like I don't know who Carl
Sagan is and um he was like oh my gosh you're so ahead of the crowd he's like how do you know and I was like I
actually have a bunch of astronomy friends who are like who were really good friends of Carl Sagan and so
um he shoved the whole crowd um the pal duva pal do block uh video and I
remember all my friends were just amazed by the video and they're like that video is so cool I mean you don't even have to
be interested in astronomy not just ignited a million people's passions because it's like the videos
tells us how small we are in a universe but yet how big we are in this world because we you think that the Earth is
just you know this Earth I mean you just think that the universe is a size and
Earth is a pretty decent size even look at all this research showing how small
really we are and how you how the universe is just infinite and it keeps
on growing at every single second it nourishes so many possibilities out there of life and
so many things and another thing I really enjoyed this year was um we got to do the planetarium
so last year we didn't get to do the planetarium but another thing that we did get to do
was just sit on the floor and watch a video so we did that and it was still very entertaining I thought it was
really cool and fun but um while I was um while I was at space camp
last year I really wanted to see the real planetarium this year they were lucky enough to let us into the real
planetarium because covet has gone in a little bit better for um
space camp because they've been keeping the kids all social distance and stuff and everything is done well with
precautions and we got to see the planetarium and it was just mind-blowing
and everybody had and it was so cool because we had a life um live
presentation and the screen just you could literally see the craters of Mars and you could see every single you could
see every single bit of what the universe almost like a simulator what are you sold solar system
looked like and data of what you know our galaxy looks like and what
scientists expect it to be and it was just so cool and mind-blowing um and that was one of the best things
that we got to do on the trip but um I really enjoyed it going and I hope I
get can go again next year and I'm gonna see if I can get some girls who are in my cabin from this year and even some
friends I made at space camp that they wanted to come on because a lot of my friends were like oh my gosh I want to
come on too and I was like I was like I'll see if I can connect you and my boss or anything like that or my friend
and we'll see if you can we'll see if you can get on the star party because I said we literally allow anybody on the
star party they said if you have an astronomy passion and you love to share the love of astronomy with others you
can come on so they're like we'd love to so I'll have to see about that but um
it was so cool getting to meet kids My Age Again because I mean like everybody you can just have
like a 10 hour conversation of how you got started in the space and you know
how cool it is to think about space and all that stuff and it was just a lot of
fun to go visit and um and I'll be going back again next year and
um I know cybella went on the week just right after me so I hope she had the
same experience because it was really cool and I got to do all these fun things um
one of my favorite things that we did um was um there was two other girls that I met before I went to space camp and um
they were all like one girl was named Shelby and one girl's named Hannah and um we stuck together
most of the time um the picture on the front of the presentation is just me uh all of us just hanging out in a little
astronaut capsule that we found but um I was really proud of my team this
year because we actually won trivia night and I wanted to point this out because I was like
sitting um and um most of the questions were about NASA history and so um everybody got a
chance to go up and I almost stopped trivia right about as I was about to go but then they said let's just do bonus
question instead and I got the bonus question right and I got my team a bunch of points so I was very happy about it
so we won trivia my whole team won trivia we won best Mission patch and me
my um me and my friend Shelby and Hannah um Shelby and Hannah we um want to
scavenger hunt and um we we're trying to answer a question and
some dude came up to us and he said you know I worked on that Rover right and he
said and we were like wait you worked on that Rover and he said yes I got to ride that Rover and we're like on the moon
he's like no he said I got to practice it on Earth and I got to build this Rover for the astronauts
and we were like what the heck I didn't even realize he was wearing like a scientist lab coat he was wearing like a
NASA lab coat and we were just so thrilled and we talked to him and he said he said there's always
opportunities out there for you to get a job at Nasa and he said I worked on that Rover I built it and I got to test it
out on Earth with NASA back in back in the old days and we were like so
surprised and he um it was so cool that we got to talk to him and then
we suddenly realized that there were just scientists all over the museum that we didn't realize till later but NASA
had invited scientists and you can go around and talk to them for people working at um the kids at space camp and
all the um all the workers and stuff and it was so cool we ought to talk to all the
scientists and uh he told us that he used to work on the Rover and he showed that he just
took a little picture of his vest and he said this is a picture of me in my 20s working on the Rover and it was just
this like black and white photo of him on the Rover going over a hill
and he said I actually drove the Rover to 11 miles per hour even though it's not supposed to go that fast so
he just pulled this black and white foot out of his best and we were just All Amazed
but it was a really fun experience and I hope cybella had the same experience as me because I know a lot of kids weren't
even interested in space in the beginning and at the end they were like oh my gosh this is amazing so
um I think next year I'll have to see sybella me can go in the same session and we can request rooms and stuff like
that I think you'll enjoy that that's great it'd be it'd be great to make that
connection here in uh in Northwest Arkansas for you too so one of the things I would like to say
um Libby is that you are so fortunate that you had the possibility in the experience of going
to space camp twice in my generation all I could do was watch it on
television I remember May the 5th 1961 uh eating breakfast at home and there
was the rest of our family and Mom at the table and I went I am
and Mom said are you coughing and I said oh just a little bit and Mom knew exactly what I was trying
to do and she said maybe you should stay home from school and I said well how about just for the
first part of the day and she said yeah for a couple of hours you should stay home from school after breakfast she and I
went upstairs turned on the television and we watched the launching of Alan Shepard into space
and I will never ever forget that just wouldn't share that with all of you
good talk Libby [Music]
um Sarah I hope when I go back to school while I've been trying to start um more social media sharing of like
documentaries for kids my age on different subjects is in engineering and
stuff like that so I hope to um get more kids interested in space because I know um
it's very important to do that I don't see a lot of kids in my area and I think
to myself I'm like well I don't know what NASA workers are going to be here because in the future we won't have the
people who work at Nasa right now it's our generation that we need to unite the passion and tell them about all these
cool Rovers going to Mars because the way I got interested in the space was like just Outreach and I want to um
that was Scott's Outreach um it was downtown at the square and he had a telescope out
and he was showing the moon eclipse and I was just amazed
and for like the next three years I was amazed by space and then for a while
um then we went into the telescope shop because I've been wanting to go there my mom was like people say it's a really
nice shopping and I was like I want a telescope too so I was like um I was like it's a Outreach that
inspired me so I know I've been inspired me I'm this deeply inspired right now I
can Inspire other kids to get into space and learn about space and I know um I'm even
inspired by white weather and stuff like that I love storm chasing I'm not really professionally storm chasing
but it's like one day yeah one day one day I'll just I'll just watch the clouds
and then my mom see her take the right uh take the wrong turn all the way back
home I'm like no I want to go chase it she's like no you're not ruining my car
today oh great thank you Libby thank you so
much um I wish I think everybody listening
wishes that they could have spent a week at space camp you know that would have been awesome so and I hear it's for
adults too is that right yeah they have they have like adults they have
you can go all the way up till you're on your golden days you can go as long as you want any of
y'all can go and then I know they even have like small little activities that you can do they have weekend space camps
and um I know one of my friends Hannah that uh she's from New Jersey and she
just did a scholarship to get in the space camp so she got a free flight suit and she just did a scholarship and you
just write like a five paragraph essay and she got in so awesome I was so glad he had she had the
opportunity to come because she said I'm all the way from New Jersey I said they gave me free space camp a flight suit
and 500 for traveling and one of her flights got canceled last minute so she
had to spend like a bunch of money on her 500 to get an Uber from Tennessee all the way to Huntsville Alabama so wow
goodness one thing I'd like to also add is that I was showing the moon to a uh a guy in
his 30s we thought he knew everything there was to know about astronomy and uh he was looking at the moon and I
and then he took his eye away said okay what else is there and I said what else
and I said uh when I first started looking at the moons who were telescope and following a program
that the person at the Royal Astronomical Society recommended
I looked at the moon for over three years before I was able
to identify 300 craters and 26 mountain ranges on the moon and make my own map
and uh if you have a second I'd like to show you that map yeah I love to see it
uh you'll have to say something David to get the uh camera back on you there
um this is the map that I drew
back then in the 1960s it took me three years
and I just wanted to share that with you I drew it myself it was from
1960 to 1964. and uh I have it still now
so I just wanted to share that you should make a poster of that just make it into a poster David
the Hall of Fame actually I do have a poster of It kind
of here slightly smaller version of it
and it makes the cover of my magic quotation book
and that's cool yeah
this uh this glass plate that I have here is um
uh was you taken from uh not Wilson Observatory and the date on this glass
plate of the Moon I don't know if you can see let me get a good angle on it here
maybe turn around this way that's the Emulsion side you can see the craters and all the rest
of it I think this was taken with the 100 inch telescope um and uh there's actually some writing on
the top of in fact it does say 100 inch on there and uh there was a gentleman a
name escaping right now that took these images of the moon um with with the those telescopes up
there and um uh you know there all these plates were uh sadly being thrown away
you know so um I was I was gifted one of them um but um
uh you know the Moon is absolutely fascinating and endlessly and you could
spend your whole life looking at it you know studying it uh you know so it's
it's not uh as I I I totally get what uh Dave was talking
about you know he's probably aghast you know oh okay well what else is there you know
well this is amazing all by itself right I have um I had a cup
um that I was in the thrift store I love going thrifting and just looking in the first storms for random stuff I don't
even need but I still find for a cheap price anyway and say yeah that's kind of cool so um
I um came I was looking in like the silverware section and I just
immediately ran to this cup because it had the Apollo 14 astronauts on it it
was vintage I've shown it all from the GSP a long long time ago yeah and it had
all the astronauts and it showed them walking on the moon and stuff Apollo 14 and it was just so cool to look at it
and um a couple like Weeks Later every single
day before school I would drink out of that cup and then I wash it and then I'd show it off to my class and be like look
at this cup look how amazing it is yeah and I found it at the thrift store for
like 50 cents and one day I woke up and my dad was like okay so I have a little bit of bad
news he said I accidentally dropped your cup and broke it I
so I was like well there goes my amazing
cups I drink every day out of it was like not only I loved it as a souvenir but it was just a really cool cut and he
said well I mean I broke it at like 5 a.m but then I went on Etsy and looked
how much like a old vintage one would be too and that was only like four dollars
I said I got that one for 50 cents I said the three of that one is
good but I was like oh well I'll just get another one offline for five four
dollars because that was a really cool cup I had and I always shut it off to all my friends and then I was like I
should have probably I should have not have drank all out of that every single day
I should have just kept that in a safe place because I know to money it doesn't sound
valuable but to me that thing was the most valuable thing I always kept it on my like shelf in my room I always showed
it off to my friends I was like I don't care that it's four or five dollars I said I found this in the thrift store
and I think that somebody was trying to give this away I wouldn't have I was kept that I would have put it in a glass
box I would have right I was like I ran into it and I immediately got it and it
was such a cool cup that I had for a while but sadly with a glass and it broke so there's more on the way I'm sure I'm
sure Libby okay so let's transition over to Connell uh Connell thanks for coming on today
um and uh uh your your talk is about the universe
through your six inch telescope correct yes that's correct so to answer the
question um what else is there uh it's kind of a tricky question answer because there is so much but I'd like to give a little
bit of a sampling tonight uh some objects that I particularly enjoy studying with my telescope
um let me know if you can see and hear me all right here I'm just going to set this up yeah we can right how is this good
so uh starting off I wanted to share a little image of mine uh this was a long exposure star Trail I took in May of
last year my telescope was there I remember I don't know if I think it
was a neighbor's light I was trying to observe and knock some objects off an observing list and off to the right over
here um there was an unfortunate uh floodlight shining into my yard so I took the opportunity and it turned out
to be a great one to get a beautiful image with my scope in the center some trees in the background and then those
star Trails uh just kind of bringing in the the summer sky
but we talk a lot about about um our place in the universe and it tends
to be a very deep discussion it tends to have very large numbers and figures in
terms of distances or we saw earlier ten thousand galaxies in the Hubble Deep Field
and it can all be very hard to grasp as astonishing as it is
so I wanted to um distill that down if I made to just a couple of objects that you could see in
a modest telescope uh these I can see in my six inch very well but they can also be seen in smaller apertures and give
some kind of a sampling to give us a little bit more of a Hands-On approach to learning about our place in the
universe so it's a list of five objects I have here tonight kind of going out in distance
starting off we have Jupiter and the reason I selected this object out of the
different planets in the solar system is because of how much there is going on now traditionally we think of Saturn as
the showstopper object in our solar system it has those beautiful Rings the Cassini Division if you look really
closely in larger apertures you can see bands it has a couple small moons and as interesting as that is Jupiter is much
more accessible to smaller apertures with all the activity it has going on so you can see in the image I provided here
there's four different moons the Galilean moons that are all very bright fifth and sixth magnitude approximately
there's the the great red spot right there there are red equatorial bands and
then these tan sections they're called the the polar zones that change color
and there's festoons that appear and sometimes they appear and disappear with different seasons so Jupiter is a very
interesting and active planet to observe over smaller time scales and you can see all those changes in a smaller telescope
in the case of the moons you can see them coming over the planet and and uh
you can see their Eclipse Shadows projected down um I remember a couple of years ago I
saw a double Eclipse with two of its moons or a Transit I think that it's called
where you can see two Shadows crossing the cloud tops at the same time and that's a beautiful and astonishing
experience that does remind you a little bit about how amazing the universe can be and how much there is going on around
us even if it seems so distant but then speaking of distance Jupiter
averages about five astronomical units and its distance from Earth and there is so much to see once we go a little bit
beyond that so moving on to an object a little bit
farther from our solar system at 350 light years is a beautiful double star called Alma now I picked this up in my
telescope just last fall I saw it for the first time and it's naked eye it's about second magnitude and it's just
incredibly beautiful you have a golden Central Star there the the brightest companion and then there's a Bluer star
a bluish white color separated about 10 Arc seconds away and that's not too far for a lot of
telescopes it's very easy to see we have an image here on the right at 220 times magnification and of course 10
Arc seconds is very manageable in a six inch telescope and smaller apertures as well
now looking at an object like this we learn a little bit more than just uh what we can see in our solar system we
see two stars orbiting each other we see two different types with the color if we go into that a little bit more that
tells us about the temperature it tells us about the size and there's so much to learn extending only a couple hundred
light years out of the solar system which really is not that large on the scale of the Milky Way and the scale of
our local group of galaxies so going over much farther from our
solar system but still within the bounds of the Milky Way is a pair of objects in our night sky Messier 46 and a planetary
nebula NGC 2438 now these two objects one is a beautiful
bright open cluster that looks great in binoculars it's sixth magnitude and then if you look at it closer with the
telescope there's an 11.5 magnitude planetary nebula down at the bottom of
this image of the cluster here and that's a really fun object to see it's a blader it's a brighter planetary and
it's got a little bit of shading you have all the different colors of stars this is high up in the winter skies and
Canis Major and of course it's really fun to look at with the two objects uh kind of right next to each other
but looking at the distances we actually learned that they're not really related astronomically they just seem to be
lined up from our perspective in our solar system so the planetary nebula and distances
tend to be hard to measure for those particular objects some estimates put it around 3000 light years I saw some that
were closer to about 1500 but nonetheless they aren't quite the 4900 that we know the cluster sits at
so we learn a lot about these two different objects planetary nebulae teach us about the dying
Stars the low mass stars and then we can see all kinds of different Stars different colors and different sizes of
stars throughout their formation spans in that cluster
but talking going back to the theme of our place in the universe we understand
that things aren't always as they seem so we have a nebula here superimposed on that cluster if you will and uh it may
appear to The Observer that they are related that they are at the same distance and in the same area of space but they actually are not so there is so
much to learn by looking at two objects in the same view in your eyepiece
going farther out is really a showpiece Galaxy you can even find this in binoculars is Messier 81 sometimes known
for its companionship with Messier 82 the cigar Galaxy quite nearby
this is a beautiful spiral galaxy you can see the arms and larger apertures but then you can also see the core and a
little bit of the surroundings in a six inch from Suburban Skies that I observe from or maybe binoculars from from a
more rural site but it is just a beautiful galaxy at 12 million light years away
and as you can see going through this this list of objects we're stepping farther and farther away from our sun
and still learning so you can see there's spiral arms coming around Galaxy
classification can get a little bit fuzzy because they can be so active and diverse some of them are Bard spirals
with the bar going straight through the center this galaxy seems to be more of a traditional spiral with so much blending
in the center and the two arms one extending over the top and underneath in
this particular image and if you look at the size the size of this galaxy is not too far off from the
open cluster we looked at just just in the last slide even though the Galaxy is so much larger it's farther away and
that teaches us a little bit about positioning and how things again aren't always as they seem and how much there
is to learn by going in closer now finally ending our tour of a small
sampling of objects in the universe is a quasar called pre-c273 this was among
the first discovered in fact it was first discovered as a radio Source if you look at the image I have on the
right here it appears quite like a star that's why I don't have this the size listed
um if in fact if you were going over that field this particular object is in Virgo you wouldn't notice it unless you
were looking for it as as the the object being a quasar so it's about 13th
magnitude it is a little bit dimmer for a six inch telescope but very visible in an 80 inch or maybe 10 inch dobsonian
those larger telescopes still very accessible to the amateur but the most astonishing thing is even
though we can see it it's at such a great distance compared to the other the other objects I've discussed it's about
two and a half billion light years away so when we are looking at this object the light we're seeing left the object
at about a time when the Earth was still forming it looked very different um I don't even think life was coming
around at that time our solar system would have looked quite different with where the planets were the outer planets
hadn't quite migrated outward yet the moon may not have had as many craters and that brings us back around to seeing
this object it's almost like a form of time travel we really are looking into the past and quite far into the past uh
two and a half billion years or so so going back to our theme of uh our
place in the universe there are quite a lot of objects that we can observe with just a small telescope like a six inch
that are accessible to the amateur astronomer and they can teach us so much about how much there is to see and where
we are great thank you very much awesome awesome Connor I think everybody
go ahead David or a colonel um it's obvious from what you have shown
us through your wonderful six-inch telescope that that scope means the world and the
universe to you my question is a simple one what is its
name that's a hard question to answer right now
um I guess I've spent so much time observing I haven't come up with a name what would you recommend I think you should spend time coming up
with a name that's important to you but you know my belief and I really strongly feel this way is the telescopes
are people too and if you have a name Colonel your telescope deserves a name
too and I'm not going to suggest one to you I think you really need to look at your telescope and choose a name that is
appropriate to it and what it is seen my telescope which is sitting right here
Minerva named after the Roman goddess of wisdom is uh one of my favorite telescopes and
I have used this telescope as well to look at 3c273 as I'm sure you have and I
strongly suggest that you come up with an original name for your telescope and
then let us know when you've decided on that thank you I'll let you know I like that suggestion uh you know the telescopes
really do have a personality have personalities of their own with how you use them that was my that's my first and
only telescope and it's shown me so much in the past five years so thank you very much for that suggestion I'll let you
know what I come up with please do and cause Connelly you want to keep that one I I uh my my first one of my first
telescope was a uh when I was your age was a six inch Newtonian that's a great scope and you're gonna enjoy that one
it's really nice to see what you're doing with that and really appreciating that's a sweet spot with aperture as
well you're getting enough detail uh and it's it's it's still easy to manage
um so it's really great to see you sharing that and and I I just recall when I was your age
looking through that six inch Newtonian of myself and it's a great scope
yeah you know if I may share a short story um when I first saw our the title for
this week's theme our place in the universe I thought back to a particular moment I had looking through some planetarium software in fact
um I I I've read a lot of stories about people who have said they've had this one moment where they've realized how
vast the universe is and I could never really grasp that you know I'd go out and look at the stars
and it was so beautiful but you could never really understand it um just in your own Mind's Eye
so I remember I was compiling a list of the objects I'd observed the Deep Sky objects and and this was in Sky Safari
and the program has a feature where you can call up a list of objects an observing list and it'll show you all
the locations of those objects with respect to the Sun or the Milky Way you have this view that you can kind of zoom
in and out of now I had done this I was maybe four years that this this was maybe four
years after I got my telescope and I knew I'd observed so many targets and spent you know probably a couple hundred
hours at that point or at least dozens of hours under the stars and I thought wow I wonder how much I've seen and how
much of the Milky Way it's going to cover and I I plugged it in and I hit that that button to to call up
um the locations and it shows this map of the Milky Way and it looked like just this little neighborhood and that's kind
of when it hit me how how big things could be I'd invested so much time in observing this guy and I wasn't
disappointed by this in any way but I just seen that I'd only scratched the service surface
um with with so many years of or four years of observing and that was a really special moment to me understanding how
how small the universe could be from my perspective but how large it actually was
layers and layers yes yeah it never stops Connell so everyone starts that's the great
thing about it well uh uh up next here is uh deep Tiga
Tom uh those that you watch who have watched Global Star Party regularly have seen deepti on many times uh she has uh
she's written poetry which she's recited on this
program she always gives a great presentation uh but she's also starting
to write some articles about her experiences in astronomy and uh so I'm going to turn it over to DT DT thank you
for coming back on to our program all the way from Nepal folks thank you Scott and hello everyone and
today I'm talking about the first of all I'm talking about the all of the uh Team
our team our place in the universe is uh hundreds years ago the most unique
astronomers considered the universe uh to be about uh 2600 light years in
extend and less than a billion years old and with our solar systems near its
centers today have seen object 13 billion light
years away in a universe in uh 3.7 billion year old containing hundreds of
billions of galaxies and we are located in one of those galaxies known as The
Milky Way and nothing however has been more revolutionary than the idea that is
entire universities in the state of constant sales is planet star in Galaxy
are born and died this story of the life of the universe
and our place in it is known as Cosmic Evolutions although the idea has roots
in the 19th century and was occasionally involved in the first half of the 20th
century five astronomer sources the swords and it really come into its own
only in this species in Cosmic Evolution has several possible outcomes and it in
point may be planet or star and Galaxy and we observe this and I know they
exist and the result is what we might call the physical Universe magnified of
itself it alternately Cosmic Evolution may result in the profession of life
either um microbiology or intelligence throughout the Universe and the outcome
the Holy Grail of uh astrobiology programs around the world the old
that will constitute a biological universe and our third possible outcome really discuss is a universe in a which
cultural evolution is taken into account is there is one question is there anything special about our place in the
universe why we don't live in a special place in the universe but we do live in
a special time in the universe in the distance futures um million or even trillion of years
from now a Galaxy will be flying away from us so quickly and their light will
never reaches us in our place in the universe steals the story of our world
formation of the first galaxies star formed from the uh great cloud and
containing the moral elements made in the first few minutes and both starts
their lives dating and Supernova explosions and formation of the solar
system and its planet in many many any moons life on Earth and it needs and
land and in the sea finally exoplanets and uh planets that sound a distance
star and interest spread in the text are short pieces on some of those who reveal
uh those owner Etc and I have one third
Point like uh he tried to hold water in his face but it only weight is so it
pumps we he didn't try to hold here in his face and it tried his wet hand he
tried to hold fire in his empty face but it left him with a burning sensation he
then tried to hold sand in his face and it slipped not before giving relief he
realized Universe could not behold but it could not be what it could be filled
and sensed and now recently I have written our articles about my experience
or my view towards the universe is like is human beings we strive to explore our
existence from a tiny part of the universe named Earth we want to see
those twinkling star moon the Sun and learn about them and I'm still
Enthusiast or simply astrophile as you are all those moon stars and other
Heavenly Body attract me my heart always wants to Lost in the beneath of this
space I remember the day when I was nine years old and all I knew was the old
Jupiter Arts rocket and settlement despite my lack of knowledge here that is I dream of settling down there maybe
it sounds funny but this dream is my source of inspiration which always motivate me to move ahead in his being
extra enthusiasts there may be some kind of dream is you is our inspiration that
we have created and similarly talking about our nightmares uh I I call it one
of the special nightmares I have seen neighbors and one night I saw nightmare that I was in some kind of mission on
Ellen with the five crew members becoming our astronauts and we are going to space in a rocket we thought in
aggregated near my house and Rocket was Advanced which can easily be returned
and take off and we moved to our space and unfortunately the fuel was existed
and we frequently written backed and again next day we take off and solve the
problem and we were returning our rocket was iron rocket was out of control and I
was in panic and unfortunately I wake up and imagination has no limits and um I
think many of us has imagines once and have created a wonderful
um uh in our imaginations and that's all about me and recently
um uh I was involved in uh extra resource campaign and uh recently
we have got two provisional discovery of the asteroid that's our SMS and thank
you this was that's awesome yeah DTI also posted the article that uh
that you were uh talking about right towards the end so it's nice to uh to
read that and it's very inspiring um you know I have not met very many
people who can say that they've had dreams about being in a spacecraft okay
or flying into space I've but I have had astronomical dreams which I'll share sometime but um
uh you know there's uh as in learning about astronomy and
knowing that we're looking back into time we're seeing events and light
um or anyways events that happened long ago and they're not
they're in the past you know so yet uh you know the through uh the traveling
you know the space time traveling of light Across the Universe we get to uh
we get to witness that it's almost uh in some ways when I think of it it's almost dreamlike to me you know
um and and then you compress that down to just seeing somebody across the room
you know there's space between you and them you know so you're seeing them in the
past as well you know just that long ago but yeah in the past so it's um uh and
then the the more that uh the you know the uh great information is coming out about uh quantum physics and all the
rest of it you start to learn about uh um you know the fact we're not even really
sitting in our chairs we're floating above them slightly you know so just the
all these little things that that are coming out of this golden age of of
um astronomy and science physics you know all the stuff is coming about uh to
give us Discovery after discovery um you know and it's uh as David eicher
pointed out it's only been the last few decades that we've been able to uh
understand the universe in the way that we do you know so and I think that everybody realizes that
um you know there's so much more to learn and so much more to be discovered so it's exciting for young people such
as yourself you know Libby and Connell and deepti you know I think everybody that's in the audience it's a little bit
older than you uh realizes the the huge Adventure you guys have waiting for you
so that's great well I'm turning this over to uh Chuck
Allen Chuck Allen is here with us from the astronomical League uh which will
um be having its virtual event here uh coming up this August and um
um I will share the link with you um but the astronomical league is I
believe the world's largest Federation of astronomy clubs they have uh I believe coming up on 25 30 000
members something like that is that right Chuck it's 19 000 but thank you okay
thank you [Laughter] all right nineteen thousand still a lot
okay probably if you put them all end to end they can go back and forth to the Moon you know no problem
um uh but the league has uh been a great resource for all levels of amateur
astronomers whether you're just I mean frankly just beginning to look up at the sky with your binoculars to uh actually
doing research you know and if uh if education is your uh is your passion you
know their educational outreach program is you know Second To None uh they have tons of observing programs recognition
programs uh and it's been run for 75 years now is that right 75 75 years I
mean just of and there it's an all-volunteer group so it's just it's um it's amazing to me uh that uh any or a
volunteer organization could last so long but uh you know it's all starts off
with a great vision and Mission plan and the league has that
um I'm going to turn this over to you Chuck but uh thank you for coming on to the
program I know that you are running you told me you're running a little bit late which is absolutely no problem you know
so it's great to have you Josh for that I was visiting a friend whose uh granddaughter was in the hospital and I
lost track of time oh so I apologize for that so we're sorry no everything's
everything's fine um and uh thank you for mentioning the convention it's coming up uh on August
19th through 21st these are afternoon and evening sessions three o'clock in the afternoon the first two sessions
start in the afternoon then at eight o'clock Eastern time the two evening sessions began on all three nights let
me uh go ahead and share my screen Scott yep and I think this is the one we want
okay can you see that okay okay here are the yes okay uh here are
the dates and we've been posting the amount of the door prizes and every time we do it changes we're now over eight
thousand dollars in door prizes we had the idea of asking Our member societies to sponsor nice store prizes
instead of us begging door process for vendors directly and it worked out fantastically so
you don't have to be a league member and there's no cost to register just go to
alconvirtual.org right here you see it and it's also on the front page of the astronomical League website and uh sign
up all we need is an email address so we know where to notify you when you win one of these wonderful door prizes we
have incredible speakers Dr Jocelyn belper now the discoverer of pulsars coming to us from Oxford University
Dave eicher of course uh Dr Richard Gott at Princeton Dr David Levy who's a good
friend in here tonight Kelly Beatty David Dunham Paul Cox with SLU and slew
is providing Paul Cox's providing a free membership to one of our student
registrants and it will be one of our award winners or applicants for awards
uh the League's National young astronomer award applicants and also our horchheimer applicants as well will be
eligible for that so Library telescope drawing and all of our youth and adult
Awards will be presented during the confession so it'll be a really fantastic event we've added Dr Larry
Crumpler from Canada uh excuse me from the perseverance mission in New Mexico he'll be joining us and Dr Chris Gainer
from Canada an author and very very prominent astronomer in Canada as we round out the speakers for this
event uh the doorprot sponsors uh include most
notably Scott Scott Roberts of course and explore scientific which is
providing the the grand prize uh for for this event the uh explore first lies 127
millimeter exit off cassegrine telescope with Twilight now so please please join
us for this convention it'll be incredible I'm not going to go through the solar warning again we do this every
time just be aware folks if you're new to astronomy at all and you've gotten your
first telescope uh be very careful do not try to observe the sun unless you
know precisely what you're doing and you have professionally made filters that are properly installed the damage that
can be done to your retina will occur far faster than you can even register that you're seeing something too bright
in the telescope so it's a zero error activity you must not make any mistakes
with it okay the answer is from GSP 55 on July 20th the question was which of the dwarf
planets is the largest in our solar system in terms of diameter it was originally thought that Eris had that
record but after more careful measurements it was found that Pluto still had the record by 31 miles so
Pluto is still the largest of the dwarf planets and these are the dwarf planets the
largest of them today Eris very close in size to Pluto and you can see some of
the others that have been discovered since and it was the discovery of most of these other dwarf planets that caused
the change in status of Pluto when the iau met some years ago
answer to because the question was the constellation Camilla pardalis like many
constellations depicts an animal what animal is it and it's a giraffe it's the Latin word for giraffe which is also
similar to the Greek question three was what organization has the final word on what names are given
to litter craters Martian mountains stars and asteroids and really everything else in the sky and the
answer is the international astronomical Union it's the worldwide Organization for professional astronomers in the in
the world the correct answer is from GSP 55 on July 20th were these
and they were Josh Kovach Kovach Cameron Gillis Andrew corkel Mike Michael
overacker Israel monteroso Adrian Bradley and Beatrice Hines all right
congratulations to them okay our questions for tonight July 20th
send your answers by email to secretary at astrowleague.org secretary at
astraleague.org there's a lizard in the sky what constellation is it
okay number two within the last decade this world was found to have a reddish
North Pole what world is it
there's a hint in the question okay and number three the Apollo 12
mission landed so close to the spot of an earlier unmanned spacecraft Landing the astronauts were able to walk to it
what was the name of the unmanned spacecraft that the Apollo Astronauts could walk to
from the lamb and that's the end of the questions for
tonight please join us on September 17th for astronomical League live event nine
we're skipping August obviously because of our convention but on September 17th at 7 pm we'll be back with that hosted
right here with Scott Roberts soon always has our back thank you Scott appreciate it thank you it's going to be
a blast I can't wait for the event to happen um I think at this point we're going to
take a 10 minute break and then we'll be back with more speakers so it's time to
take a stretch and get some coffee get a sandwich and we'll see you back in just a few more minutes
hey Scott yeah oh you can't hear me good
hello yeah it's just it's me Simon oh hey Simon how are you doing thanks for joining us I'm good the answer to Chuck
Allen's last question is uh the SpaceX ship
that will be the answer in five years in five years that'll be that'll be the uh
real answer
seemed really dark I'm actually just hiding in my bedroom in darkness to get away from the Heat
wants to join me
foreign
foreign
thank you
I always love putting things together and wanting to know how things worked
one Christmas I remember my mom giving me a Barbie doll house and the Dreamhouse they put it together that
night before I guess and I was pretty upset that it was already put together I wanted to do it so that that was one of
the things very early on that they had a clue of maybe she wants to do something with her hands but then it later evolved
to engineering in college I had to work to get through
college so I would work a semester and then the following semester take the money from that to pay for it that
semester and it took me a little longer to finish because of that
I didn't let it stop me I can't
I kept my path to working I guided in the Hubble program started with I
actually interviewed for a different company they were not interested in forwarded my resume
then believe it or not I had never heard of the Hubble project so when I got the phone call
I was trying to figure out who are these people I didn't interview with them I didn't get my resume to them
but I had the interview and here I am 21 years later and in a career that I never
even thought of and grateful very much grateful for [Music]
I have many favorite moments when working on the Hubble outside of the
engineering aspect of it Hubble is very much a family unit we've grown together
we know each other's families each other's children and spouses it is
so much of a family some fun moments or the best moments for me have been the service and missions
and while there was a lot of planning and a lot of grueling hours involved
because of the people it made the job so much fun and exciting
the advice I would give to young females or even just a young person in general
would be to not give up and if you have a talent that you feel or not just the
talent a talent or skill that you feel is a
god-given thing and it is a strong desire in you to fulfill
then you'll be able to do it regardless of what adversity or what Roblox or
challenges come your way don't stop keep going and that it will eventually happen
foreign
welcome back everybody uh hope you enjoyed that little break there and a
really interesting video there um with uh danine Lewis
um so uh just giving you some I guess some insights into what goes on at NASA uh up
next is uh Jerry Hubble uh Jerry is uh working the mark Slade remote
Observatory from his home which is just a few miles away from uh from from the
uh you know the distance you told me is like four miles away is that right two miles as the crow flies yes yeah uh yep
it's right up the street uh basically and it's it's I like to think it's far
enough to be to demonstrate remoteness but close enough to fix it if I ever need to go over there right in the
middle of it in the middle of a session so I've only had to do that twice over the five years that we've run the uh
Observatory so that's that's worked pretty well so uh and Jerry for people who don't
know what the mark Slade remote Observatory is when once you kind of give a quick overview sure I'll uh let
me uh share my screen I'll bring up the web page just to give you an idea of what it
is and show you a couple of pictures um
give me a couple of minutes here a couple of seconds to get this up here
all right let's see here
so msro uh the mark Slater mode Observatory was was built about it's
going to almost six six years ago and uh Dr Myron was suda and myself
started the uh started the project after uh a friend a friend of Myron's Mark Slade
passed away and left his uh the state left his astronomy equipment he had been
planning on building an observatory and had a had a dome and a mead 12 inch
lx200 and a lot of some camera equipment and a lot of other things that he was
gathering together to build his Observatory and he was not able to do that so Myron and um decided that he was
going to build it for him and as his legacy and uh and then two
two years ago or almost three years ago now we we formed uh msro science uh
which is a non-profit 501c3 non-profit that's that's into training Outreach and and
research uh for amateur astronomers and professionals we've actually had
a couple of professionals contact us to provide data for them too so
we do a lot of Outreach a lot of training for high school students in the local school systems
and also people all over the world have done observations on the nsro
and uh let me get let me show you a couple of pictures I think um let me see here
about us so that's what the Observer this is
station one Observatory and it's always interesting to show people that because
they say why do you have it up against the tree it's because that's where the deck was
and that's where the peers were when Myron first built uh this deck and put
some piers on there that's where it was at so uh early on when he first uh built
his house he had the trees weren't quite as high and he had another Dome a larger
Dome on this structure actually that uh he had removed and sold uh two or three
years before and then we built this um and this is Mark Slade and that's
what Dr wasuda looks like and uh this is what uh the inside of the
Dome looks like with me in the picture and then there's another picture of the uh
of the observatory we do have two other stations um
that we have in service uh that I'm using station one right now though with
the uh it's got the Explorer scientific 165 in it and I'd like to share that now the
desktop I've been Imaging M5
which is let's see there it is
foreign can you see that yes
so that's that's M5 um I'll show you on the chart
where it is and and you can see those trees in the uh that I showed you behind
the observatory that's that's uh over here actually um
let me go let me zoom up it's opposite North actually there is there's a house and there's other things around the uh
perimeter when you're looking around um
but uh let me see I can move this chart so this is what it looks like
to the north all right you see all this brown stuff that's all trees and so the sky is
actually the dark and the blue that you can see there that's all the sky we can see but but basically we can see the the
uh ecliptic very well and then also the meridian to the South we got good views to the
South it's just not so good to the north um
let me go back to where our Target is and um so your Sky actually shrinking as
since uh you guys have built this oh yeah in the last five years our trees tree line has has gone up right although
yeah although we have cleared a couple of other trees uh that Myron has cleared
from that location we our other our other stations are located in the middle of his backyard which are clear of trees
you know in terms of how close they are so we got much better views from the other observatories it's just this one
is just kind of stuck here but it's fine we we had plenty of targets to observe
um all year long uh if we're not dealing with weather you know then we have some targets uh
that are that present themselves for us to to image and I just thought I'd just grab a
random object and and go to it and uh pretty nice random object yeah so I've
been playing around not so um Pekka I had a session with Pekka on
the observatory uh probably two or three months ago and we talked about this concept of uh or
Imaging but we're doing observing with the with the camera we're doing real time observing with the camera so we
take an image we go to the next object we take a couple images look at it you know so I'm going to take an image now
and get an up-to-date image for the thing but but basically you just stroll around the sky and looking at different
objects just like you were would be visually you know that's kind of the way when
when you're doing these uh informal um type of observations you're not you're
not there to take data you're not there to even record you know save the images
necessarily you're just wanting to look and see what you can see in the image
um so that's kind of a style of of of astrophotography that's yeah it's
easy to get into chronically assisted astronomy right it's kind of easy to get into and to get get your feet wet with
stuff you know just an augment it's an augmented visual experience basically I
did that a lot as I um went from True visual um there was a product called Revolution
imager 2 that basically that's what it was for where it would do a quick 30
second image using whatever telescope you had um and It produced an image of something
that you were looking at so that's pretty familiar with it is it was a
great way to see certain things in the night sky especially if it was a little cloudy
right so you see I I changed this stretch on this uh to bring out more of
the stars but I find it interesting too to play with this a little bit pull back
a little bit and see where the where the where are the brightest stars in the cluster and you can basically zoom in
and and see these Stars you know that are the
brightest in the cluster and then you can always you know go back and
see the extent of the cluster uh you know that really gives you an
idea this is kind of interesting this this little tail right here and then you got this little Loop here
kind of thing structure with the Stars but that's that's kind of and and to
give you an idea of of what the this field of view is like 1.3 degrees by
about 0.9 degrees so um the full moon you you could fit four
full moons in this image basically in this field of view for the camera
um so I love this EAA Jerry I mean what you've done is you've
just extended your tool kit from visual right and now yeah right things you can
study the object more you can zoom in and uh you can you can do without stretching like we talked about earlier
you can do photometry there's a lot of different things you can do now that when you when you be able to put this on
the computer so it really enhances the overall you know uh understanding and an
appreciation of the objects you're looking at right exactly the other thing you can do this it's a fun exercise to
do is to uh you know identify the stars in the image and compare them to your
star chart so let me uh I'm going to zoom up on the chart and you can see there's a wealth of
stars here just like in the cluster or just like in the picture
uh but it's cool to be able to identify individual stars in this image and um
yeah there are seated variables stars in this in M5 RR Lyra Stars I think are in
the M5 and um over a hundred thousand stars I did want
to bring I'm going to switch away from the observatory for a minute I did want to bring up something on my earlier talk
with on photometry I talked about calibrating the v-band filter
and I found that chart to show actually it's a spreadsheet that
I created where I did some processing on the data on the measurements and I want
to bring that up to show um so you'd have a better understanding of
what I was talking about earlier today uh-huh um
so basically can you see that Jerry oh yeah
can you hear me Scott yes well Simon saying something I heard
something in the background no it's uh can you guys actually hear me on my cutting out you're a little bit low you're low yep how's this
way better okay yeah way better I don't know what's going on then um uh real quick Jerry I was going to
ask you when you were showing carts to seal with the uh Sky blocked out I think a lot of
people always ask this question is how do you get it to do that oh yeah yeah I can I can talk about that let me uh let
me talk about that in a minute after I show this chart real quick um so I talked earlier about how you can
calibrate your filter even with just a standard green filter using the reference catalog Stars so I'm
this is based on a uh the image of m67 that I showed earlier
which uh which has a wealth of stars uh to be able to with a with uh good data
for the different magnitudes on all the stars and what I did is I plotted
each of the star the catalog value of the range of stars in the catalog
and against the measured visual magnitude uh
that I processed in the image and so you can see there's a linear
relationship between the two okay and you don't you can't quite see the uh
let's see if I can zoom up on this a little bit
um let's see let me go to 200 I may scroll out of the
way okay I figured that would happen let me it goes to the other
I have to scroll up a little bit to show you this other chart
there it is yeah almost yeah so how does that look yeah that's good go back down
just a little bit there you go yeah so there's a line plotted across here that's the linear fit and this is the
equation I was talking about earlier Scott remember I told you there was a calculation okay that's basically a
relationship between X which is the um the measured value and and Y which is
the catalog value all right so the the goal is to you to
have a measured value and you want to know what the real what the catalog equivalent magnitude would be okay
and so you plug your measured value into X and you multiply it by this number 0.9955 and then you add this bias value
and then that comes up with the actual equivalent catalog value that's just the
that's based on the statistics of all these Stars and what this r squared is telling you
is that um this linear fit fits to within 99.3
percent of the True Value oh that's really great okay so that tells you that's that's a good
calibration and this was taken with the v-band filter on top of the uh one shot
color camera remember that was the experiment I talked about that I did a couple years ago saying okay so can I
really use a a Bend um one shot color camera to do photometry
accurately with the v-band filter and not and it yes you can
uh and this is uh the proof of it right here that there's no Distortion there's no
you know sometimes you might have a distorted data set that that's got a
curve to it and it's not quite as precise but you can see how nice and precise this is the other thing to look
at is that the Precision of course goes up it gets tighter so the the stars get
tighter to the line down here at the brighter you know visual magnitude and starts at visual 10.
10th magnitude and it goes all the way up to 18th magnitude or 17 and a half that's what but you can see the scatter
as much uh worse up at this end than it is down at the tight end right at the 10 11th magnitude
level which is to be expected because you got more noise in the background you've got
other things that cause this scatter but overall it's it's really a nice uh
nice plot yeah and it works good you have a question here uh book Davies
asked can Albedo be done that way too uh for example the moon and planets
um you could you could measure so when you measure an extended object in terms
of brightness or magnitude uh there's there's probably a standard debt on what what the area is that you
measure and you accumulate the uh the count the photons and those pixels right you that's basically what you're doing
with the star with the apertures you're summing the pixels uh summing up the counts and all the pixels that are in
that aperture and you can do the same thing with um with an extended object like the lunar
surface maybe where you have measured let's say you you calculate a value you
sum all the pixels in an area of let's say it's one square arc minute okay on
the moon and then you calculate what the average is over that arc minute a square arc
minute or maybe you say okay over 10 square 10 square Arc seconds this is
the average magnitude or something like that that's kind of the way it would work
uh it's not like a point source it's a little different
interesting let me get back to uh Simon's question thank you Jerry yeah yeah and thanks for
all the the great stuff that the MSR msro does uh you
um uh might have pointed out that you can join the msro
um and take part in uh getting I mean you would be trained on how to do photometry and spectroscopy and they've
got lots of programs like that you can involve yourself in uh the practice of
doing science um once you've got the hang of it you can take that to the next level and
involve yourself in Pro-Am projects like um what the double as the American
Astronomical Society is trying to develop so you'll also find that kind of
collaboration possible through uh probably through the astronomical League
um the Alpo and the double a v s o so these are just some of the organizations
that really support uh you know citizen science with the amateur astronomers
um right so Simon's question was how do I set up my Horizon basically that's the
key word um let me Zoom back out and I'll show you okay again
the horizon line so you can see there's this plot along the edge of the circle
that shows the Horizon so the way you do that is you have uh you go to setup
um I think it's under Observatory and then you've got a tab that says
Horizon on Cardinal seal and from this you've got a you can
create a file that's this file right here just a
simple text file it's got on each in each line it's got two values it's got
the Azimuth and the altitude two separate values
one on each line you can do as many as you want we did every 30 degrees so we start out at zero and go down to
um 330 and then you have the altitude for your Horizon and that and that's a simple
file it's just a simple uh file like that and let me actually
let me just demonstrate it real quick it's not a I'm not going to pull up the actual file but I'll show you what it looks like here
um just so you get the idea so I'm assuming you're doing this with
the scope active so you can actually see what's going on well so there's a different ways to do
it but we we actually pointed the scope and down along the horizon until we
could see the tree and that's when we that's the altitude that we measured uh to make it to make the measurement
there's another way you could do it you could stand in the observatory and use a use your phone as a theater light to do
the measurements for Azimuth and altitude so what you would have like start there
you would have that and then you maybe have 20 degrees then you have 30 degrees and you might have maybe it's 15 degrees
is your Horizon and you do 60 and it might be it might shoot up to like 40.
and then you know 90 you might have uh uh 50 you know that type of thing and
then 120 you might have um back down to 40 you know that's that's
what the file looks like right there it's that simple uh there's no big deal it's not a hard
thing to create um other than the decent measurements
so that's that's how you create it all right well cool very cool
thank you okay so up next is Adrian Bradley Adrian has uh treated us to
many uh nightscape photographs uh his uh
images of the Milky Way are mesmerizing and um but uh he's always looking for a new and
creative way to capture uh the stars in the sky and the Horizon and
um so we always enjoy uh him sharing his his great work with us Adrian I'll take
I'll let you take it from here all right so I recently added another screen
to my setup so I'm gonna try and share it and here we go so what you're seeing now
is actually me running a routine in Photoshop that
um one of the images that I've played around with doing HDR merges with Let's
uh so I wanted to prepare a speech because the
um with our topic being our place in the universe um I wanted to
share a little bit and just using this image you know my view of
the fact that we are on Earth We're part of the universe deep the eloquent you know eloquently spoken this
very well as did others whenever I look up I know that the things that I see are
impossibly big and may not be able to get to them but unlike the definition of
astronomy which focuses only on the night sky and not on Earth my photograph
my photography has always been to try and merge the two to make the two belong
together so you have detail in Milky Way shots and you have this dot is Jupiter
this dot is Saturn here the light cast on the night that I took
this photo the light from Jupiter cast itself on the lake
and to me there's a bit of a connection there in that you can see the bright
light sunlight reflecting off of Jupiter is actually visible as a reflection on
the lake so my my simple view of the um you know our place in the universe is We
Belong um and you know we were discovering it no matter how far away it is
it's something that we're able to see so long as it's not cloudy um we absolutely do belong in the
picture when it comes to looking at items in space now if we study just
those items themselves you know you can't you can't always have a tree or a
beach here um when you're looking but um
we do belong and it depends on the the series of photos I've taken recently
um you know this is a simple Sunset picture the reflection of the sun showing here
but this thing is big enough to swallow one
million Earth and yet it looks it's something that you
could blot out because of the distance it's so far away that you could blot it out with your thumb if you wanted to and
if you see how big you know the Earth is compared to us and
then imagine a million of those fitting into this thing we call the sun
um there are some scales that we just can't fathom in our minds they're just really big in
fact I someone asked me if the recent flights to um
you know the um suborbital flights someone asked if they had flown past the
moon and I told them they they weren't going to get there they that's the
moon's not that close although it looks close and I'll even pull up an image and this is a composite I tried to do
the show what I saw as the moon was Rising it is a little it's a little off
the Moon is um a little sharper um our eyes of course see it contrasted
perfectly in the sky we don't necessarily see the Shadow you know the light glowing as
bright you know that we take some Liberties when we do images um
to try to convey the beauty of what we see with our eyes and that's that's what
I've decided to do with my photography is to say what I think is beautiful make my pictures
to a point where they capture the beauty that I see just by sitting there and
looking up at the night sky and then I got a chance to do some Milky Way
Photography again and um this is one of my favorite places to do it because in Michigan we don't have
many uh Skies darker than portal 4. this is a portal 3 Sky we've had some smoke
in the night sky so we haven't been able to
um see the night sky as much so just about every chance I get When the Smoke Clears if there's going to be a chance
to image the Milky Way which is Scott mentioned it's what I love doing just seeing that Ribbon in the Sky
um I will image it every chance I get and um yeah I have a couple I take a couple
images of it and with some of the Distortion from the lens I was using it
makes it look super big here but um it's often peaceful even if I can't see
as much detail with my own eyes I just know it's there and
we'll go to grab it at any point and this time of year Milky Way Chasers
um northern hemisphere Milky Way Chasers you're going to see a lot of the core of the Milky Way standing up like this
around 11 or 12 for those of you that are that also like to do Milky Way
photos all of this light is a um there's a bright light behind this building
bright red light that um you see a bright green light here this place isn't
so good for observing but it's off of the lake and you can take some beautiful photos
off of the lake it's uh it is a park where a lot of people go camping the
skies are dark enough to get pretty good Milky Way photos here and um
it's uh it is a nice place to um go out and just sit amongst the Stars so
um yeah I guess the my answer is um what I see out in the universe from
my vantage point whether it's the Sun or the moon you know whatever's in the sky
it's something that I'm looking to capture and I am always blending it with
um blending it with Earthen things this this experiment from some
years ago this is a winter scene you can see by the trees just
um any any folder that I take I seek to include the Earth as a part of the photo
and I usually do these splits where you've got a landscape and then you've
got the night sky and the two are working together so so yeah I would
I guess I would summarize and just say it's you know the um the Earth is a part of
the universe you know the Earth is hanging in space our definition of
astronomy of all things not including the earth I think would need to change I
think it's it's all things in space Maybe space may be the focus but
Earth is a part of that and uh whether we whether you represent it with a uh photo of just the objects in space
itself which I know I had one of those here um if you if you're just that if you're
just doing astrophotography of things in space those are beautiful but there's nothing wrong with including
in fact here's the picture here there's nothing wrong with including the Earth in any of these photos now when
we're shooting straight at things in space we Marvel at how they look we we enjoy seeing those
but the Earth is still a part of it and um
and I'll leave you with the uh sunset here there's nothing wrong with enjoying the
beauty of our own planet with with our photos so green yeah so that's that's my
presentation hopefully um when you're doing photography you have
to you can get caught up with a lot of people that'll see your work and they'll say maybe you should try it this way or
you know you should take your photos and add this or that you know go see some
experts talk to them and and some of that's good if there's a certain thing that you want to do but ultimately your
photos are yours and it's your goal um whatever it is you want to do with
your photography with your art that matters more than all of the things that
have been done um it's it sets a direction your your photography can then it stands out only
because it has your stamp of this is what I see when I'm out there this is
what you share with the world um and it makes it your own you know
whether it'll win Awards I I try not to worry about things like that
Awards or competitions more so than just you know getting better at my craft
and you know getting trying to get what I envisioned when I take my shots so
that's my story and I'm sticking with it you're sticking with it
it's a good story it's a great story so okay uh we had um uh Simon Tang came
uh tonight to visit us and so uh Simon if you could uh uh come on with us I
know he says he just came here for support but you know uh he's such a great astrophotographer that we got to
see a few of his images um I probably I mean my solar pictures you guys have already seen him to death
even if I only took them this morning so that's probably not that exciting but I will show you this one because I
know Caesar um should really technically be up next and my cat is going to be screeching at me in a second because
she's decided to join me as you can hear her and get in my way so
I'm just going to show you one that um if my cat would move
that's her but so this is the Eagle Nebula uh M16 I
hope you guys uh can see this okay yes we can really beautiful this detail
there this is actually part of a project that I'm working with uh with a bunch of
guys all over the world um they even Knicks named it the bat which stands for big amateur telescope
um basically the guy that's putting this together has a YouTube channel um he's called Astro biscuit and
basically what really got me was the idea of what he was trying to do how do you overcome atmospheric scene by taking
uh certain types of images with certain Scopes in a specific way
so I joined the group started listening into this and one of the targets I wanted to do was M16 so
I said yeah I'll be a part of all of this craziness and we just basically sit there and we just take exposure after
exposure after exposure and we just send it out and to be honest anybody can join this but so this is my data that I'm going to
be contributing into the project which they already have and I actually have
access to a couple of observatories so I'm gonna have four Scopes I think in total all looking at the same place
doing the same thing and the idea here is we're trying to compete with a seven million dollar
telescope [Laughter] idea um so that's what amateur
astronomers do that's exactly so that's the whole point it's it's so many people all over the world doing this and it's
actually really interesting um everybody has their own little uh thing that they want to throw into this
but the core of it here is to get as many people as possible taking pictures of the same object with specific
parameters because we do have a set parameter to follow because otherwise everyone's just going to do 10-minute exposures
but it's it's actually quite strict so uh was it uh four width uh all width
half height maximum size whatever that statistic was again has to be below a certain number which makes this
incredibly hard because we're trying to get past bad seeing oh I see so Simon if someone wants to uh
look into this what website would they go to uh that's a good question I think if you
just do a web search called Astro biscuit and connect onto his Discord um I think all of us should be able to
help everybody out from there in fact I'm surprised you don't have a Discord yet Scott uh we do what we actually do but I I
have not used it much oh we better get on there yeah
um so yeah uh just look for Astro biscuit um I have no idea website so I will
put that link in to the chat and people can go check it out it's Simon that's a
beautiful image you know and and uh uh something that you know is so inspiring
you know I remember when I first saw images of this object back in maybe 70s
or 80s you know I thought oh wow you know that does really look like uh the eagle you
know because we called it the Eagle Nebula of course um but when Hubble uh came back with
Pillars of Creation which of course is the same region just way more cropped in
um you know it was very interesting to look at the uh Hubble image compared to
amateur images like this one okay because you can see a lot of the same features
um and uh you know so it's amazing to think that some you know that that uh
you know a private individual with his private telescope uh you know with uh
with with some great skills uh can turn out such amazing stuff you know so uh
you know I think eating with the with the professional stuff that's out there you know Scott I I honestly think that
technology has now gotten to the point where it is so far ahead of itself that
the real problem has become us utilizing the technology oh yeah because before it
was a problem with technology and it was getting to that point and how do we exceed it and it's I think in the last
year um companies have just come up with such fantastic uh cameras
regardless of what it is it could be a mirrorless camera a DSLR whatever uh and these astronomy cameras but the thing
here is the technology has jumped so far forward that images like you're seeing
right now as far as I'm concerned when I first got into this I wasn't getting anything like
this even if I had the same scope but with the camera that I had from five years ago it was night and day and I
think um shalindra is it Challenger yeah um he has my original camera that I
first bought and it's great to get him involved in it and have him have the camera so he can kind of experience
um where I came from but the moment that the camera uh technology improved
results like this suddenly became easier and easier and easier I mean I'm not
going to turn around and say it's a tribute to my processing skills or any of that kind of stuff I honestly have to
say that technology has far exceeded the expectations of what we think we can do
and recently when I had a chat with somebody they just straight up said to me that NASA doesn't actually have the
time to go through and do these things and they rely heavily on people like us to do this for them right that's why
they don't challenge any of us well maybe the seven million telescope thing but that's a different story
that's a different story that's right yeah so um you know the not only technology in
itself and and all kinds of things but big data is another you know big
conversation because there's so much data from like uh Sky survey instruments
I mean the Iran the IRS um uh observe maybe I'm pronouncing it
wrong but it was the infrared Observatory astronomical Observatory that was put in orbit and uh they
collected so much data that at the end of its run they they estimated it would take like five or six
decades yep of science is working on nothing but this data to you know to go
through it all so but they've made it public now so anybody can access this now as far as I remember hmm
yeah and citizen science programs like that are really uh now becoming a a
thing at this point I I mentioned earlier in the program that I'm on a uh
a task group with the American Astronomical Society uh to uh try to
match up amateur astronomers with professional astronomers uh in their Pro-Am projects and and somehow help
build uh membership in this in their programs but they are all about the science you know so
um but they would like to have they need help you know so you can get an army of amateur astronomers that know how to do
it um then uh you know all the better well Simon thank you very much thanks
for coming on you're welcome to hang out the duration if you'd like so oh yeah like I said you know you know what I'm
like when I come on here I just come in and just just cause Havoc so you guys do your thing I don't see I
don't see like uh you know flying cats or anything yet so although we did see one walk by
um okay so Caesar brolo is up next Cesar is from Buenos Aires Argentina uh uh if you
watch the global star party at all you've seen Caesar uh on his rooftop uh
in in good good skies and bad um but uh he is always someone that is
trying to kind of break the boundaries of uh of what amateur astronomy uh can
be especially for someone on a budget okay so Cesar thanks for coming on to the program today uh it's called it's a
pleasure like every does the every level some party is great to be a part of of
this so wonderful uh event and really I enjoy uh to show
something to to share and my experience uh like uh I'm a terroristronomer
because my work is selling telescope from 30 years
um Maybe by my place in the universe is
maybe it's more my function in the universe's soul to the people and
but more than so sometimes I I
fell I feel more more near to to talk to the people to
rush into the people to to make different things just I I finished uh to
to uh teaching and explaining to the
customer uh how to use and make the the first uh the first steps in
astrophotography using a quarter amount
um every time every time that that with many people that they told me
okay who is the first step well for example
with this this uh customer this guy we
started to take pictures inside the room with the turn off the turning off the
line the lights to to experiment the Sensibility of the camera
um this is this this is uh first steps of
yet but is the first Sensation that the the technology can do it
um it's something that have a magic in in
the first steps that are sometimes are uh forget when the people
is going to to make more more pictures and you know are thinking more in
technology and the capacity of of having a surprise about the things
about the universe sometimes it's lost and
um this is why I ever ever I enjoy the
um the first steps of many many people that is starting and trying and making
their first steps uh trying to make a picture of the sky a picture of of uh
the moon something more easy that that they're all their own first
pictures of a Milky Way but I really
enjoy this unfortunately I and I have one object that
we can try to make I try to make in in the next uh in in the next weeks it's a
galaxy is the peacock Galaxy and only I show this subject because I
choose this because in this time of the year is in is is a really southern
hemisphere object that maybe Maxi have a great pictures of this and I show I'll
show you um in the map let me share the screen
if I have a let me try if I have
[Music] I don't know if you can see the the
carducial map Sky Map or only
you can see the sky map now yeah yeah not yet not yet you're sharing let me it
says you are screen sharing so I think no yes yes it's yes I try again sorry
okay um well I
not um okay
sorry that I don't know why it's unable to to share
the the option of carducial but
Neil pen is maybe you should be choice
of limit I'll I'll try to to
share some pictures of these objects okay well
the typical object of of South Africa this is a
picture that I took from my balcony here in Buenos Aires Palermo
is is going to
um I don't know if I can okay
now the funny ah okay okay I don't know no yes the jewel box that you this is
the lab the last picture that we talked about the and the next picture that I
interested in in show it's um
Silver Box is is the is the was the last
in the last uh in the last weeks that I show you
uh Omega Centauri cluster
when it is this was the object that I took the picture
from the lab the few a few weeks ago uh not few years ago
three months ago that I I was talking pictures and talking about this next
object is this from the city I don't know if if
it's possible but the idea is take again is taken from the next weeks and it's
very important for for this time of the year because this is is highest Over the
Horizon uh at this time uh the Pickled Galaxy is
9.3 maybe or five I don't remember exactly the the magnitude number and
this is the the next object to to take a
picture but but not from the balcony if not I'll go to the to the Rooftop
of the world and why because it's it's a very
interesting Target from the city because it's very difficult to to have this because in a sky that the Baltimore
number is 9.3 it's nearly too impossible but not possible
um it's a very interesting Target to choose from from the city
it um it's very interesting because it's a it's a huge Galaxy
um and it's biggest like a Milky Way many people say that is the the older
dog doctor of the of the Milky Way and
here maybe you can see uh an accessory Galaxy of this galaxy it's like this
galaxy is like a large magellanic cloud
of our our Milky Way it's something like it's very interesting because it's a
Galaxy that you can you can see today that we are talking about our place in the universe it's very
sometimes a very difficult whole hold people from people I don't know how
they can see what us from another galaxy one the
most similar the most similar this is a 25 Millions years like years and
it's really similar The View that we can have
uh in the peak of the Galaxy is similar how the how they can they I don't know
they maybe got I don't know uh they can watch us from another galaxy and it is
very interesting um well it's my my target for next week
not maybe two or three weeks ahead but it's very interesting to
to um have the the sometimes our place is
the idea of of um the physics the physic position in in
the universe or or um in our galaxy or you know it's it's
something that that is well for me a it's it's nearly impossible to explain
because I am only an amateur Stormer but I well then I am amazed about about
the idea to understand our place it's it's something like a I can imagine it's
uh the idea but it's it's great it's a great a great example this galaxy pic of
galaxy of uh because it's uh it's similar to to the Milky Way galaxy with
an accessory Galaxy like a large magalani Cloud this is
it does give you great perspective uh to see an image like that and that was a
great example um you know it's it
you know just like uh looking at um uh minerals uh that you might hold in your
hand and making the instant connection that these minerals uh were created
inside of uh Supernova and then it's not you know when you think along those
kinds of terms I mean you kind of get these flashes of like realization you know as as you're you know living your
normal daily life you know absolutely is mind mind blowing mind yeah mind blown
something that that we I talked with Victor Russo the the the discoverer the
man that discovered the the last uh Supernova I don't remember the name sorry the number of the Galaxy in case
Argentinian like he's very he's a a like a look keeper he's a they have a
he made he made keys
[Music] um he uses his uh Newtonian uh 16 inches
telescope um trying his in his first night trying and
calibrating his CLC the reveal camera uh he discovered that something was
wrong in a galaxy a supernova and many months later when we I had I was lucky
to talk with him because I know to Victor from many many years
uh Victor told me and about things like they discovered in this Supernova like
a goal goal yeah is was made in this Supernova for example in many many
supernovas a lot of like like you told is is real it's incredible that many
many um materials born not born but are formerly
yeah amazing yes he's great yes what he's
about to say yeah right yeah yes
it's something that is it's completely out of my of my mind of
course yeah I find uh you know Caesar you've done a lot of uh Outreach with the public and
um I find that uh when you're you start to talk about the distances of things uh
it is uh for people who are just new to it maybe seen through a telescope for
the first time or starting to even think about astronomy really seriously for the
first time uh you know they are they find it very difficult to wrap their
heads around the distances and uh you know you show them
you show them the Andromeda galaxy and you tell them you know this is 2.2 million light years away yeah we're
traveling at 588 or 5.88 trillion miles or yeah
like that way oh yes absolutely fine but yeah as as we become more familiar and
we work with it um uh even as amateur astronomers it it becomes um
uh you become okay with it and uh and then you start to uh really
um I think more appreciate uh absolutely what you're seeing through the eyepiece
even though maybe you've seen it hundreds of times to the telescope you know it's never the same it's the
incredible in this picture of peacock that I I took with I would think with my
son and and it was funny because what's up the the picture that I showed you
Jasmine showed you is a picture that we took with Augustine in a show before
after the show to to project live image to the people and when we turn off the
the projector in the world for the people that starting to to you know to
use the the sorry no to adapt to the to the darkness
um Eric Gonzalez the astronomer that that uh
some weeks ago he asked me can you can you
targeting to the in this the same time of a year in wintering but in Mendoza he
told me can you turn it to the pickup Galaxy because in this time is is high
in the over the horizon yes why not but my mom is the same moment like in this
time that actually use camera wheelies is an Autism
and I I told her I told him that come on
it's impossible to take a a picture of a galaxy with an ultimate Mount and it's
nine magnitude 9 um actually uh in this picture of the
this galaxy you can see like many pictures of Cameron engages uh you can
see a lot of galaxies far far away come from let me share sorry sorry very very very
uh fast to to share sorry let me uh try
it thank you very yeah it's really fun I'll be showing them again later yes let me
uh there's one the moral bound to the star
at the left yeah yeah there it is yes now that one's
further away yes for example yeah yeah
it's a it's what's a uh I start to take pictures while we was talking you know
and drinking whiskey if it's something that sometimes we may we we
bring in some third party not all time um when on another day we had the the
the picture for stacking we was amazing with the with the this magic is
incredible really something that yeah absolutely
yep uh we have some comments here um
uh one of them [Laughter]
uh Harold Locke is saying stargazing is a drug I'm sorry but for me it's highly
addicting well yeah I think you could say that for almost everybody here so
everyone understands uh Harold
he's commented on some photos uh we're now Facebook friends so I'm leaving
hello to Harold oh great yeah that's right
yes real quick I got to ask you this when are those tents back in stock
s yeah it's like perfect timing two room
uh yeah up Observatory tents yeah [Music]
come on either that or he's ready to be fed uh
for what I understand it should be pretty soon so you know there it takes a cycle on making them and getting them
shipped over here that's the problem Simon is getting him shipped you know because uh the all the containers have
been backed up for such a long time you know it's bet it's getting slowly better but you know and I know that the whole
telescope industry right now all the retailers are really uh it's it's tough
on them right now because they can't get product um because uh last year all the
manufacturers pretty much sold out of uh never never we we saw this uh it's
called I work in telescope industry from 30 years and never never expect
something like like this year every day I'm explaining to the customers that you
know I don't have I don't have no maybe they don't believe me
seeing it on this show there's no telescope sense anymore wait wait you can ask okay
sure it's actually slowly it's very slowly coming back in but we're all feeding back orders right now something
yes it's actually a good thing because I
don't know it I dare I say this it's not like we've sold any more or less in
general but it's the popularity since everybody's been stuck at home has
astronomy suddenly just jumped up such a big tier oh that's right it's a thing
that somebody wants and it's it's great because I think what two years ago between you me Scott everybody sitting
here in this um this chat it was a struggle to get somebody behind a telescope and now sometimes sometimes in
some ways you know yeah and now it's like they there's no way to get anybody
behind a telescope now because we can't go out well we can now I think um for at least some of us right yeah but it's so
great to see so many people just get out there finally and stop seeing how many clubs have grown in membership I know
the league has grown um uh yeah I know that the magazines the
sky in telescope and astronomy magazine their their subscriptions have grown
um you know we we see the interest there it's great it's wonderful and um
you know so you know give us a give us a little more time because all telescopes
are made by hand you know it doesn't these things aren't you know yeah I was going to say everybody thinks they come
off of some kind of crazy assembly line even no even the toy telescopes are made
by hand yeah you know it's it's good and that's of course you get to a bigger telescope the Optics get more
complicated everything becomes more precision and uh and then of course your
client is expecting uh you know a very high level of precision by the time they
get to a more serious telescope so Scott will you be at the Oklahoma the
Oaky Tech star party or uh someone from explore science no we we are definitely
thinking about being there I don't know if I will be there personally um but uh but yeah we are we're thinking
that actually we're doing a kind of a test STAR party that is a music festival
uh it is on September 10th and 11th in Eureka Springs and so there's a whole
lineup of uh of um you know uh folk singers and uh
um you know kind of uh new age I guess I would say New Age Bluegrass and stuff
like that really cool stuff um and uh they are going to be in a
place called at a concert venue called the farm which is in Eureka Springs which is about 45 minutes from here and
uh we're supplying the telescopes for this venue so it's astronomy and music
you know so it's going to be kind of cool but two days September 10th and 11th and you can look at I'll put the
link in here um so that you can find it but but let's uh
let's turn uh our attention to Maxie Maxie is in uh also in Argentina he's
been uh on a lot of our shows so far and um when Maxie first came uh to show us
his uh amazing astrophotography uh you know it sunk in that he was doing this
all with a smartphone okay um which was uh really really inspiring
to see what he's done with that but he uses of course uh more advanced cameras than a smartphone as well uh Maxi is one
dedicated astrophotographer and uh so I'm going to turn it over to you Maxie
well thank you Scott hi everyone Adrian and all the audience he looked more
alive and awake than the last time of 24 hours can do that to you yes yes
no more three I was sleeping because it's terrible no no no no no no no his
excuse was is that the planets were up so yeah is planetary system but of course this
has to be too late uh maybe this Thursday or Friday I will try again to
Jupiter and Saturn to take over but I don't know yet so basically like the the Thematic of
this night is a world surround us hey what is our universe so I want to show
to everyone I think the audience is more in this another another
hemisphere so I can give some details from our perspective and our skies in
the southern hemisphere and last weekend I try to to show you in
stellarium but I couldn't make it but I think this time it could be work because
I found the the to see in the program a windows so like
me with the carducale that I couldn't share
I yes I I in this time I don't I don't
have the the cartoon to try but I will try in stellarium so okay uh
okay do you see the screen yes yes as always we see the very
impressive total solar eclipse it just beats everything you show us the
image you're like okay yeah
okay do you see the stellarium yes yes okay do you see it's moving
yes yes it's not like my my carducia
I think why I never can share yeah I think anything in full screen mode
doesn't work but if you window it like this yes then it works so it has to be
as a window in Windows CL share only the the the the the most
uh ahead window of carducian but the premise don't show don't show the the
map and here yeah well here in of course uh in
stellario you can configure the sky the you know the constellations or maybe put
it like this okay what do you see without the names but uh to you to to
get from some kind of what we see or what we try to see uh this this is out
of the sky but you know you can see the the time is the 15th of a January and
because this is what the our summer skies in the night
uh we have the the Southern Cross I pointing to the the the southern
hemisphere here because in this place
is the a Polaris Australis okay here's our
Polar Star okay but when we have to align our Mound
a um we have to to point to these four
stars because when we pound we when we point it points directly to the to the
South a Celestial pole okay so this is a little tour of course uh in
the North uh well it's very different and
remember this is in January you can see Orion here and taken down to the west
but uh what I want to show you is some kind of a little tour of our
perspective from the south and this image let me
stop and close here this is a picture that I took in in that
time of the same place okay you can see the Southern Cross
the southern player this is Alpha Centauri star and harder star
and also a Omega Centauri a global cluster
Centaurus a Galaxy and I figured it out I also can capture
M83 because it's right here let me
that thing is M83 is not a star
so uh that's awesome
it's a very rich very rich region very deep
absolutely yes of course I don't see like a Galaxy because I in this in this
case I have a uh the the the
um millimeter of the on the camera but well
uh this is uh another place in the South
that you can see with your own eyes you don't need to use
a camera to see this because this is the the gray magogenic clouds
and that has the the challenge okay
and is in this region in this place when you see in the the
sky wait let me check yes when you see the sky at night
you see this kind of cloud contrasting with the darkness of the sky but also we
have the a little American cloud so
it's in the the city is very difficult to see it but in the Farms yes in the in
the farm you can see and also there is another level cluster
well it's Mark me the the stars but here's 47 to Ghana and like
um you can see you can see it with your own eyes you don't need a telescope to
obviously if you want to see it but to give a perspective
or what is that you see it like a little
not shiny star but when you have a binoculars
you realize that it's not a star there are too many of stars so
for example this is 47 to Ghana okay this is a global cluster
this is I took last last year and also there is another little cluster
here it's a very very interesting region and also Omega Center like I showed you
the last weekend this is a wow
extraordinary cluster you know yeah yeah beautiful
and it's very interesting when you see uh
yes it's impressive impressive cluster sometimes it Maxi when you when you need
to improv to make something impressive to to the people that you if you don't
have planets or or the moon in the sky Which
object you uh for for for what you know if an
observing not for us of course who is the who is the the
um the Deep Sky object that you choose to impressive to people that is are not
astronomers well obviously it depends of the time of the year but now for example
now it's very difficult because uh well it's
in the city the Omega Centauri is very difficult in your area in
and the position of where you are because the light pollution kills it but if he pointed to the
southwest and from my house you can see it very good and also uh but in summer
maybe maybe Omega Centauri is is the most impressive yes
thing like obviously because this place
it's amazing to see the all the clouds contrasting the the shiny the the shiny
stars you know the this is a picture of mine but
this is you know this year I didn't take a picture of this place
oh it's an amazing photo yeah you know I got to ask what is your
perspective of the northern sky because for me it's I mean for most of us that are in
you know the us we don't see anything in the southern sky so to speak but for us we look at this and see that
particular nebula and go we'd love to go out there and shoot that but what's your guys's perspective in the southern
hemisphere looking at our sky going oh which doesn't really happen I I try to
you know I try to figure it out when uh because obviously I want to go sometime
to the north and and see what you see I know you have a lot of galaxies and also
that you have seasoned galaxies but there are some kinds of nebulas that I
want to try to to take pictures uh obviously like Chris and nebula well I
don't know if the northern Carolina Northern um no I don't know I don't remember the
name sorry North American nebula no North America
our uh so the uh summer triangle I believe you
get to see that is yes it's very you know I can see also Andromeda from here
yeah and that's why I take steel and all of our attractions
upside down maybe in the whirlpool Gallery
this is our night right now okay so to the South we have
helping a well you know the the sky goes right like this you know to the east
to the West so um
this is the Milky Way and you can see it's above
of our heads you know uh maybe one hour earlier
at uh 20 p.m is above of our health you know
and when comes out
we see you guys get roof you because right above your heads that's the thing you don't yeah
and then this is how we see it when it comes out yeah the Scorpion never gets that high
no reverse you can see how it looks that's the Milky Way that's all we get
this is the Milky Way taken in June in Alberti
yeah look at that you've got both halves of all of my health
yeah both yeah you know what Scott I think you should do um uh start selling Astro tours where
you pay I don't know however much tens of thousands of dollars in YouTube hundreds of thousands of dollars and we
just fly all over the world to different locations and just hang out at Caesar's house and and Maxi's house and just take
pictures all night long every everyone's first one I've been
playing a trip yeah yeah
it's not too much of a stretch to think that we could have a southern Sky star party I've got some friends down there
uh one of them is uh Caesar the other one's Maxie Rodrigo's down there too
so I know they don't all live super close to each other but uh
um but I think that uh there's a summer triangle right there yes
it is for you to image North American nebula because it's right on the horizon there
yeah that is that is tough yes oh yeah there it is very very you know it's very
difficult but I try to take pictures in my city of the I no I don't remember
what is decoration I hear here yeah the Crescent yeah yeah low to the ground for you all yes so
that's what's directly overhead to the north so it's a good it's been a target
for a lot of us the veil yeah those targets are easier for us because they're directly overhead then we can go
we can turn and go north um there's a lot of galaxies around the
northern area where our Big Dipper and Little Dipper are those are our kind of the uh this is a Staples
basically the staple Galaxies for us do you see that obviously that's gotta
see every time of the year or every time of the year we can see
um where I where I live around the 41st 42nd Parallel um
M51 never sets it's always off of the handle of the Dipper and the Dipper
rotates for me around the sky um the little there's the Little Dipper
and there are some planetary nebulas and around the um our Ursa Minor
um all of the zodiac signs that were pretty much named in the northern
hemisphere so they're all hanging upside down from here that's why I wanted to show you all right yeah
no I I always I thought Rachel was the head of there right
yeah well yeah so according to the Northern Hemisphere
um you know all the all the documents out of the northern hemisphere everybody's hanging upside down uh
Sagittarius is kicked over it's like someone kicked the teapot over in your
uh yeah in the southern but it's a perfect uh
it's a perfect perspective of our place in the universe right it's all relative to where you're standing yeah exactly
upside down and it's really good this is a great a great capturing of that of
that perspective because you know you see you know if you're in the southern hemisphere you're you're brought up
there you always like you say you just said you visualize uh you know Orion UPS uh you know in
that orientation with the Orion Nebula in the upper body yeah and so I think isn't really don't you have uh don't you
have a name for the it's like it basically looks kind of
like a cup um Orion's what we would call the lower body oh you're talking about the Chalice
yeah yeah I think yeah I've heard of that one too yeah it's called The Chalice because
of its orientation in the South so right so yeah for us it's the lower body and
the uh sword hangs yes
ancient astronomers uh you know five thousand years ago if they were in the southern hemisphere we would have a completely different uh completely
different uh constellations that yeah yeah well some you know in the
the the principal object in the southern hemisphere of the Native
in people that live here in the past the
natives uh they have the this little story about
the this bird uh I I don't know how to say
I want to say two weeks ago we are talking about who was the African big
beard but in Africa is there with truth but I don't remember the name again
yeah I want to say search
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they've got a specific name they're actually called Reyes okay yes it's the family of the outsrich
but it's maybe when the country okay so it is called the red and there's a and
there's a constellation representing it yeah because the The Legend says that a
hunter a native Hunter wants to to obviously hunt this bird and he was uh
persuade between the the bird but uh
eventually in in a moment this verb goes up to the sky and
stake up in the in the the night of the sky to get a little resume and this is the
head of the nandu the of the Bell but let me see in the stellarium
uh what let's go we sorry I think I went very
far all the time to to see the perspective
Okay so here's the the carbon or the head but
when you see in the the the the farm Skies the the Milky Way you see the head
the neck and the body you know okay do you do you see it like
this this is yeah the dark the dark Lanes look this is the body
they're the bird the neck yeah and this is the hell
and this is obviously the nyandu of that native cultures yes the name for for
this bird was not joking yes it's another language another
nothing maybe I think that is Edition
well never knew that about so the whole there's basically a a name for almost
the entire Southern wing of the Milky Way yeah I know that in the north we we
don't have such a uh we don't have such a name for it it's uh
it's just what's in those sections of the Milky Way it's the uh cygnus region
the Cassiopeia region the uh bulge in the core and we barely see the uh
Northern side of the core um it cuts off for us
um right about at least in in my latitude it cuts off you know the further south we go in the
states we get a little bit more of the southern part but It ultimately cuts off
uh well before um I think well before the uh
body of the bird mm-hmm in the picture
this is what you see with your own eyes the the darkness of the clouds and this
part is very circle like the body and here comes the neck okay yeah so yeah we we
barely I think in some places South in the U.S they can get begin to see that
but barely and where I am it's not it's very difficult yeah it's it's generally
where I am here in in California um the what was it fighting dragons of area
it's about five six degrees above the Horizon for us I mean I need to find a
place high enough to be able to shoot down into it
um I did some pictures of uh dragons of era let me show you it was the 12 uh here
dragons so uh see I actually I still want to try
this I mean it's just crazy because it's just nothing but atmosphere I'm looking through but just to even see it would
just be yeah this is what I took the last yeah straight up into the
this is what you could get if you didn't have to shoot the Earth through the Earth's atmosphere at its worst
or if you if you take a thousand frames over six months I think uh
we begin to get that yeah it's why we're it's why we
appreciate you know both sides um and then the the real key is if we
get Advanced enough um where you know we're able to jump
onto a platform that's in orbit and imaging from there
you know you're talking you're away from
away from Earth's atmosphere just imagine how quickly a lot of this data could be
you know a lot of the data that you could get you know if we see that you know I'm actually going to throw this
out as a challenge for these guys that are doing all these different uh commercial space flights you know
regardless if it's uh Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk is have you know the way that I
look at it at least anyway is they're going to turn around and say that they're ruining the night sky with all these satellites whizzing around but at
the very least sticker an Imaging platform up there for the general public to get access to and be able to you know
say I want data from here or there or somewhere and to get that type of stuff to come back to us and say hey I know
we've kind of ruined it for some of you guys but at least we're doing something for the rest of the community to
um you know make it accessible I think that's an excellent idea they've got
enough money yeah you can and I would say do it in a couple ways have uh have
a wide angle so you know something akin to your astrophoto camera with a
24 millimeter lens have a larger um have you know more aperture
right um you know have a couple of different options for us because then we can choose to shoot a wide area of the
night sky or we can Zone in on an object that we want to image we want to study
so that that would be an excellent idea I mean it's it's essentially you know Hubble is able to get all these
beautiful pictures but it does have a certain limitation and focal length if
we want a wide angle of what the Milky Way looks like with absolutely no atmosphere to shoot
through um yeah we don't have an option right yeah that's it so that's your next plan
is uh for a million dollars you're gonna help us explore the Explorer scientific
images set up little cubesats with um yeah the space Imaging platform so
literally the 80s they're all just going to go up in space
and then we we can turn it back around and we can frame Earth with it or we can
go you know you can you can just shoot it directly out into space and then you have a space skate
that's wide looks kind of like that but um yeah yeah
there'd be a number of things we knew things we'd be able to try and do and a
lot we would see that we normally don't see with our terrestrial pictures that
was Captain kills on here twice how does he managed to do that he logs in emails
it is time yeah it is time do you like do you like that Segway no it's okay I
would like actually Cameron is uh showing his uh wonderful uh observations
I'm usually heading to bed because of work tomorrow um so yeah actually with it yeah
do you remember last weekend uh the last week I want to show you here's a
Scorpios right that is yeah and the the place of Corona Australis is about of
obviously our health here and this is the part where I take
pictures this place it was amazing because I remember
cluster these clouds of the of the Milky Way of part of the Milky Way but also
this kind of uh um reflection clouds yeah it might
barely be reachable from the southern part of uh Northern Hemisphere yeah
that may be a target for Okie text for me if if it's not it I don't know if it
actually if it's gonna work because I think where the Milky Way will be it may be too far below the Horizon to catch
that yeah but that's like uh buttercups yes and because if you see Scorpios
yeah maybe uh you'll see a little more down to the to the north yeah Scorpius
doesn't get very high in my latitude dude about 20 degrees if that and then
it already begins to sink oh is yeah okay so this is my little
presentation this is thank you perspective of the Southern Hemisphere
now obviously in only in Argentina obviously in Chile South Africa
Australia New Zealand of course New Zealand
New Zealand is then once New Zealand can open back up which I don't know how many years
um always a beautiful place lots of beautiful scenery to go along with Southern skies I think a lot of a lot of
uh night images get themselves out there um I won't worry about New Zealand until
later I've already targeted Argentina as my Southern Sky destination yes and
it's it's something that is incredible you know that you have and this is
really you have a uh rainforest part that is where we have the the world who
falls do you have a very dry bar that is uh in the north east that is America or
all the Northeast you have the big mountain with mountains with snow all
the time in the corner Los Angeles and Mendoza and actually the part that we
use for the third parties in the west is near to the coronation or something but it's not actually the kordichera in the
big mountains if not is in in a canyon a small Canyon not compared nothing
comparing with the with the ram the Red Canyon but uh
but this is a small Canyon but it's one of in this area they have two different
Canyons it's incredible uh only in this area that is smaller than
it's not small it's San Rafael think that Argentina have
near to um sorry that I don't remember the three five thousand kilometers
uh long um uh one
thousand two hundred a little more maybe why uh sorry that I told you in
kilometers because I don't remember in miles how many years but only to go to our third party normally I
I drive I need the complete day because you know it's like a go from Key Largo
to North Carolina maybe to compare the idea oh it's pretty far it's very far only the wine if you go go
to uh uh out uh usually is maybe you need four
days because it's three thousand kilometers that's a lot of yeah
this is the long distance is the same that the
the wife in United States similar
but now the distance in South America when you say okay we can go to to server party
playing or driving or playing sorry airplane or or a fly or driving and we
started to think something that sometimes is complicated you know is
um how to say when you have the the the the when you need to read to to get the your
telescopes and your equipment from the from the airplane in the airport and you
need to go to rent a car come on I prefer take my car and I prefer one day driving
to the store party place that and you can bring more equipment that way yeah
yeah I need to share a trip to San Rafael with maxi I need to go first to
chibil koi um saying to Maxi and still going to San
Rafael yes okay maxi of course
hey Maxie have you been to the Northern Hemisphere much the most uh what I've been I I didn't
pass to the another atmosphere I went only to Florianopolis in Brazil for
holidays but not far enough it's not part of North to see the bit if you
can't see Earth's amazing you're not far enough you're in the same boat as us that's cool
my first time in United States watching the sky because maybe the first
time that I say okay I I I'm at the restaurant I need I was in the third party in Atlanta Georgia and uh no this
was not my first time but my first time in a third party um when I started too far to to see the
sky I I can't I cannot found the stars because all it almost hit my my yeah
yeah everything was right side everything it does to us
the constellation confusion this is what happens yeah yeah my honeymoon I was I I went to
to Miami and Orlando and yeah
um but I never yeah it was my honeymoon really I don't see this this guy yeah
but when we were return with the family in to the to another party especially go
to Disney and return and go to the third party driving from Key West because we
rent a house in Key West and say we thought like Argentina say okay how many
miles are six sixty sixties 1 60 600 miles is near to 1 000 kilometers
but come on our miles well again driving the entire day going to Key West to
Atlanta Georgia what was wonderful because I loved the great Drive yes I
for me is the best the best way to to first of all that America have a great
roads and very safe roads in Argentina is an adventure
it's a little crazy driving baby relaxing and told me that this is real
well I better keep in mind yeah you might
want someone else to drive no yeah yes because you know we have Italian blue we
have a mixer a dangerous mix of people that come into Argentina in our genetics
thing come on yes yes yes but you know if you like Adventure
you yeah I like it like living on the edge yeah well that's yeah that's what
I'd be looking I also like barbecue so that's why I'm trying to go home you'll
do the adventure for the barbecue I'll do the adventure for the barbecue and the Southern Cross that's
those are the goals yeah uh cam uh Cameron uh I'm gonna ask you this what
on Earth is astronomy what is gastronomy yeah that's what's up next yes yes go go
get him sorry okay no worries okay yeah so a
quick answer is Simon it's it's basically a uh a personal sharing of a
sky survey It's a Sky survey of all the observations I've done um
over 3 000 observations visually uh over the past year and then recently I've got
into Imaging and I'm going what I've done is I've categorized out of those 3 000 objects
uh down to mag 13 uh in my eight inch Smith Castle green uh deep Sky objects
down to mag 13. I categorize ones as I call best and brightest so out of those there's
825 what I call best and brightest which means that they're even with uh you know
modern light pollution you can you can clearly see them they have enough surface brightness to be able to pick
out visually and what I'm doing is I'm going through those now uh with the team here
um and and bringing everyone along in in the Journey of kind of re-sweeping those 800 and so plus uh visual observations
we sweeping them with my newly acquired uh Imaging camera Astro Astro camera and
Camera it's a 294. I started off actually with a smartphone and I still do that as well and and then that kind
of got me into the the thing and then and then I when I got my astronomy dedicated astronomy camera I'm starting
to go through and and basically capture that constellation my constellation moving from uh west to east we're going
through and about every Wednesday I cover between you know 8 and 15 objects
averaging around 10 objects and we're exploring together and I'm talking about you know my visual experience uh what
does it look like with the uh picture uh What kind of um uh you know what kind of
uh magnitude surface brightness and how far that object is away so what I wanted
to in this today's session is actually take that uh and just kind of do a little
paste in the perspective of where we are in the universe um and uh but before we do that
um yeah I just want to recognize you know I feel like a kid walking into a candy store whenever I join this uh this team
uh there's so many different aspects and so many different dimensions to
astronomy and uh you know Simon you you point out a good thing you know the
technology is so far ahead of what a human can can absorb or process and uh
all the more reason why it's great to have these forums to kind of cross pollinate and share ideas and and kind
of get that uh Groundswell of a community so that we can all kind of work together on on helping each other
uh go through this journey together and get the maximum out of everything that uh the universe has to offer so it's
it's really uh pretty cool so it's a pleasure to be here um yeah so uh with that with that said
um very well thanks thanks God so does that answer your
question Simon okay okay so uh with that let me share
my screen okay
I think it's the first time I've heard Simon not have to have anything to say back I think all right and by the way Simon I
watch all your your wooden Hills uh uh shows as well fantastic I love it oh
yeah I have a new one up but for your shoulder stuff I'm not going to go into the new one that I've just got up but yeah carry on sorry okay yeah no and
you're pushing the envelope on technology it has been great how are you and Scott have been working together on
collaborating with these streams and stuff and you know using all the different platforms and all that to you
know uh you talk about Discord and all that it's it's this is great I mean it's it's really cool so um so yeah this is
just a a subset uh and and what you're seeing here is a Sky Safari view of my
uh my observation list let me uh move this thing out of the way science is kind of uh
in a way okay so if I look at my observing list I've created a new list
called the cam astronomy Sky survey Explorer so what that means is these are the objects uh to date we're on episode
11 tomorrow uh that we've shared in our weekly program uh it started off kind of
randomly in Northern Virgo and then I started going into Eastern
Virgo serpents Libra Etc Hercules and then down it's the last one was
Sagittarius I I split Sagittarius into two chunks so I now moving up so where we're moving now is I was choosing do we
go to Aquila and go up the MLK way or are we good to continue with Lyra and I decided based on you know I have a
backlog of images and stuff I need to organize and stuff so I I'm I'm gonna go with Lyra tomorrow and it will be a
smaller uh subset but we're gonna we're gonna focus on Lyra and um and what I wanted to show today
is uh just a couple of different objects uh different um categories of objects at
different distances to kind of again recognize where we are in the universe so if we're I'm going to look at I'm
going to focus in and let me turn on my my Broad
band this is my uh my full best and brightest is 821 objects and
best and brightest I'll go back that shows everything and we're gonna go uh we're gonna look
at the Hercules Galaxy cluster and we're going to look at uh
M92 and we're going to look at the Ring Nebula then we're going to look at
double double and then Vega and the reason why I'm doing in that sequence is that's kind of furthest to nearest uh to
us in terms of light years um so so with that in mind if we zoom in
in in this area here and then I'm going to change the um the magnitude limit right now
I've set it to magnitude 13 which is pretty much my non-stellar uh eight inch micasa grain
limit it goes down to Stellar magnitude 14 of course but in my light polluted
skies I can eke out magnitude 13 at the maximum if it's if it has a high enough surface brightness but let's pump that
up to uh Beyond magnitude 13. so let's and you can see where the Galaxy cluster is
starting to form and let's go down to eight let's go to 18th magnitude so the center of the Hercules Galaxy
cluster is is down here on the foot of Hercules oh sorry I'm just gonna back
out here and you zoom in here and there's one particular NGC object that uh I know it
now uh this one here 6047 I'm going to Center on 6047
Center object and the reason why I'm doing that is because I have an image here this is the image I took it's not a
great image but it's my first uh you know my 4am I don't I don't have a cool camera so
there's lots of noise this is a live stack uh if I go back one here this is a
light 10 stacked images of 30 second uh increment but I've got my flats right
let me just move this out of the way I got my flats right so um you can see
that at least it's uh it's it's relatively flat but you still have this line noise and stuff that's another
thing I'm still working on lots to learn uh and and apply but uh for the first
businesses of EAA and the sky survey you can see a lot of galaxies in this in
this image not bad for the 30 second with an eight inch on an altazimuth Mount
um and so you know what what I want to highlight here is uh the the the
um visual Place self now you see this bright star here it's down here now what happens is this
is today this is current time if I go now but I have when I take the images uh it
has a timestamp so what I can do is this was July 12th so let's go to July 12th
so that bear with me I'm just gonna you see how the field is rotating so I'm going to go to July 12th
and it was at uh at 43 at basically midnight uh it was uh 12 43 in the
morning 0043 so if I figure that out let's go
use the time and let's go that's PM so it's I'm gonna have to go
like this there we go so now we have the right orientation for
the visual plate solving you can see this star here is this star here and this line of galaxies here is this line of galaxies
here now now the um if you look at 696047 that's one of the brighter
members of the group magnitude 13.5 if you take a look at the uh information
uh it's um 460 million light years away okay
so it's really darn far out there um a lot of galaxies in the Virgo
cluster around 100 million light years 100 110 that's what we're doing in the survey but when you guys start to get
into Galaxy clusters they're quite a bit further out um and then you get the quasars or billions of light years of course but uh
but these uh so I just want to highlight you know with an eight inch
you know light polluted Skies 30 second Stacks let's look at some of these members down here okay so there's three
down here let's look at the fainter remember right down here click on that guy
right there it's a magnitude 15 4 right galaxy um actually I want to go to even there
there this one here magnitude 17.4 ic1170 which is this one right here it
has a high enough surface brightness so you can still see it but the fact that you can pick out magnitude 17 galaxies I
couldn't even do that in my 18 inch dub uh visually in a dark sky so this uh
well maybe in the dark sky you could but uh but it's but this is pretty darn good and then be able to do this from your
own backyard so let's look at the specs on this guy
it's a it's in the group right so 470 million layers so all these guys are around the same distance
so that's that's kind of just a snapshot of the Galaxy cluster let's move on I'm going to zoom back out I'm going to turn
off the uh the um the filter here so it doesn't choke my
machine let's go back to magnitude 13. I'll make it respond faster everybody
Zoom back out okay so now let's move into uh nearby so
we've moved from the far galaxies to globular plus the globular clusters are on the outskirts of our galaxy let's
look at M92 so M92 I have a picture here if I can find it
relatively fast yeah here we go here we go M90 no it's
m62. bear with me
sorry for making everyone dizzy and you're actually cataloging everything as well aren't you yeah I'm
building a catalog that's what campus that's what it's all about and
ultimately I'm gonna publish this uh so that people can you know look at this and ideally what I'd like to do Simon is
you know I know there's a lot of stuff on Astro bin and a lot of awesome stuff but I want to just for my own personal
but also just as part of this community I want to kind of make a castronomy list that uh you can you can tie into your um
your observing tool and then you'd have these uh these thumbnails kind of like deep Sky survey and be able to uh to see
what what it what to set your expectations what you can see and what you can image uh and at a basic level
it's not going to be awesome uh quality but I want to get to a certain level of standard quality where I eliminate the
main noise and I'm able to do this and then ultimately go back and comb back
and and take a new set of pictures and continue the survey um so if I I'm where is where I think
Hercules is up here opiocas serpents Libra booties
serpents I heard it's herpes here's the M90 okay so this was an earlier picture of uh M92 with my smartphone and uh you
can see I had it all you can see how the Stars line up for the visual plate style this was with uh just a 62 degree
Explorer scientific um ocular and uh and uh basically you can
see pretty good you can have some granularity to start but the main thing I wanted to highlight besides uh is if I go back to here
this guy is in the tens of thousands you'll see the laundry pluses tend to be in the tens of thousands of light years
away from our our solar system so 27 000 light years for M92 and then if you keep in clicking
on other you know taking a look at other garbage clusters here they're going to range between 10 and 40 000 light years
away um and then if we continue let's move on to uh let's pull change
back to today and let's move on to uh Myra
okay let's move a little closer now and let's look at the Ring Nebula
the Ring Nebula and we'll look at the specs on that guy
it's uh it's around 1.4 000 layers so we moved in quite a bit closer we're zoomed
in right a bit so we're uh we're we're getting we're in our Solar so we're in our uh Galaxy within the Milky Way 1.4
000 light years it's very bright but what's neat about this uh what I like about the Ring Nebula if you zoom in
and you uh you turn on the uh
the fainter Galaxy filter Galaxy there's a couple of galaxies in the same field
of view I'm just going to go back I'm going to cancel that but take a look at those and if I go to my pictures uh in
my survey that's uh sorry this is kind of in the way
and this is in the way now let's move this over here okay put it back into a slice order mode
okay here we go so
first of all the images of the couple of images here this is the Smart my early smartphone images with the S8
uh you can see I zoomed in and very fuzzy but hey you can still see the Central Star pretty darn good you know
with it which is the simple uh smartphone you know uh packed on so this
is what I'm also trying to demonstrate Simon and everyone is that hey it's it's
a journey uh you you we want to make it so that you know you don't you're drinking from
a fire hose but you want to be able to you know take sips and tap off of it and and gradually get more and more advanced
at your own pace right because that's where the enjoyment is is to be able to access it at your level and then you
know improve and it because it's really a a self uh self-turning self-discovery
so to be able to start off with a smartphone which most people have and and be able to do decent pictures it's
very satisfying and then and then of course it's like oh well let's get a dedicated surrounding camera
and then you start to look at noise and cool cameras you filters and there's lots of things but they all come in
their own pace um and so this is on the left where I started to do some stress stacking and
stretching and trimming and you know pretty darn good you can even see some you know double star here you can see
another star inside the uh you see the central star and then another superimposer behind the nebula and you
can see the structure and I put the Hubble image here for reference just to show you know obviously the Hubble is
like infinitely better and this is kind of to your point Simon it's really neat to be able to see what kind of structure
you can do with just your simple cheap equipment in your own backyard to kind
of identify the same type of structures for example this little Nook here that's in the inner ring
is right here you can see that clearly you see these uh I guess these striations or these Stripes kind of like
this one here and this one here you can start to see that you start to see some indications of the overlapping
nebulosity this little uh protrusion over here you can start to see a hints of it over here clearly the the shape
itself right having this extension continuing here uh that's the same thing so to be able to see that it's it's
really really cool so now funny I was gonna say funny thing is is you can
still see it in the cell phone picture that little not sticking out the little ear on the right hand side
exactly exactly that's that's right thanks Simon yeah yeah you're right on and you can see how it's fainter on
these ends and it's clearly brighter here and you can see that visually as well not as pronounced but with with the
with the what you can do with a smartphone is it starts to it basically it captures your averted vision and your
sensitivity of your it takes advantage of the resolution of your I gotta get
this fate again your rods and then the cones I think the rods are the uh for
averted Vision right uh and or is it the other way around and then the cones of
course uh you have the sensitivity so you have the best of both worlds with the uh with a with a smartphone
um somebody is asking on the chat actually which software are you using not the
PowerPoint software the thing that you're using to find everything ah yeah so if we go
what I've done is I put um Sky Safari on BlueStacks uh BlueStacks is a an
emulator so it's a SmartPhone normally Sky Safari is a smartphone or tablet
application but I in order to show it here I put it in an emulator inside on
my desktop and so I'm using BlueStacks uh as my emulator and Sky Safari is uh
Pro is on top of that okay I think that's where everybody got where you caught everyone out because even I was
going how on Earth are you getting Sky Safari on a desktop exactly yeah so that that's what you
that's what you do and uh yeah it's very very helpful to be able to do that because what I like about Sky Safari I
mean a lot of us are familiar with it is um I also like the live Sky feature
where you can uh let me just quickly uh do this give me a second here gotta get
this okay let's go back um what you can do with uh
um
okay so um you were pulling something up on Sky Safari
yeah yeah uh so yeah that's what I was gonna thank you it's a live sky with Sky
Safari the advantages on uh I can go to my observing lists
and my observations and all of these are synchronized through live sky so that
means that whenever I do changes here on my desktop or on my phone or on my tablet it automatically goes I can go to
the live Sky website which uh I think it's yeah I got it right here
so I'm just going to pull it up for example so you'll recognize and this is really really useful and
then you can download um your object list uh
okay well let it do its thing it takes some time and then what I can do is I can download the object list and I have
where is it uh I think it's in here somewhere in my
catalog I've exported um
where did it go maybe it's uh
I hear this yeah so this is work in progress but
basically what I'm doing is I'm making uh the catalog
um that you can export with uh with Sky Safari and um let me just pull this up
and the nice part about this is it has all of my uh
my sequence of observations from booties all the way through uh
through Virgo how many objects I have I have a pivot table here and then I have uh observing
lists of all the objects including my logs so these are my my visual
observations as I'm recording them on my tablet my visual observation is 3 000 or
so I actually have have them all like for example over patch very faint oval patch
faint overpatch all these things are my observations um and the time stamps Etc and I can I
can do some pivot tables I can do lots of cool stuff and then ultimately when when I
when this catalog is compiled I'll be able to have a visual descriptions below
that too uh with different soaps and stuff so it's it's an massive uh undertaking but I'm taking it
I think Jerry made a good analogy you know it's like how do you eat an elephant you just gradually right and
it's uh it's the journey that's uh so yeah I just already said that I was just
kind of like imagining well where do you start you know so you just like nibble on it here or something or I don't know
being a vegetarian yeah I just have a real tougher time with that one so
so so now just finishing up on on the Ring Nebula I wanted to zoom in those
two galaxies that I showed you kind of kind of taking another look back into the into the distance in the same field
of view like I kind of blew out the uh the exposure here but I'm picking up a
magnitude 15.3 ic2 at 1296 that's 256
million light years away and then this one PCG 202-4204 magnitude 17.5 right at the end
of this string of stars you can see right there it's clearly uh there that
guy is far far away it's not even I haven't I haven't researched it but I I
try to Google it and um it doesn't say the distance so it's very far away
um so that's the Ring Nebula and then last two things before we
before I wrap up my segment um on my Whirlwind tour here is uh let's
look at the line uh the Double Double just up here
click on that guy it is see it's 100 now we're getting a lot
closer 162 light years so now you're moving ah much more closer to the neighborhood and uh I just take a look
at some of the pictures this is a challenging object to take a picture of
um you have to take just show you so this is the actual
visual place so this is from my smartphone the smartphone does a better job uh because you can take like a video and
that's probably the best way to do it with a video but like a planetary image because it their separation is very
close right with fractions of a an arc second so so you're um so I did a 1 8
second to be able to do this with a single shot was Quite a feat uh ISO 100 so you can see that there are two stars
you can see the or the classic orientation right one uh perpendicular to each other uh this is what my 294 I I
was trying to figure out clearly blown out uh I tried to do one second it's like okay but just as a a lesson uh it's
like oh you know obviously more work to be done I I probably have to take a video I need a
higher speed uh try stopping down the telescope stop it way down
yeah yeah that's thank you yes I in fact I was thinking maybe just doing these with my Mac
um my two inch aperture mask or something you know exactly exactly there's a so
there's some cool stuff so what I'm learning out of this uh start and and everyone is um different equipment
different tools for different different uh objects right and you you start to you start to build an arsenal
of okay I'm going to image planetary enability you know small ones I'm going to image uh you know I'm gonna image
large um Supernova Remnant and then you have a different type of uh filter and
setup and all that kind of stuff so it's I'm starting to build that as part of my survey so that as I go through the full
cycle I'll become more efficient and having more satisfying results that
everyone else can replicate for themselves um that's kind of a plan so last object
it is um Vega Vega
everyone knows Vega um can you see Vegas
and uh Caesar can you guys see Vega in the southern hemisphere Where You Are
oh Caesar yes I can see it you can okay so so that's good so we can
can we look at it yeah yeah I don't know he's trying to lip read I was going what is he saying
yes Mega is my alignment store in in the north it's very easy because
in many part many times of the year is
there it's not it's nice it's a nice big make a go to alignment yes it's a nice
bright a brighter blue one yes yeah your picture is beautiful camera it's amazing
oh this is not my picture ah come on but you have one man there
you can clearly see the diffraction spikes which makes it beautiful actually I love those pictures of the Pleiades
with the diffraction spikes I think Richard Grace uh you know uh you you know Astro beard yeah he was he does it
that way and it's it's really gives nice satisfying results um so uh yeah 25 light years I mean this
is a nearby neighbor I mean it's really close so uh don't throw away so that's that's
so that's where we are in the universe so taking a zoom back what we did is uh
we went from the Galaxy cluster in Hercules a globular cluster down to the Ring Nebula and all within the small
area he had that wide range everything from you know half a billion light years away
half half a billion right 400 and something thousand light years away or a
million layers waiting I should say down to tens of thousands and into thousands and finally tens of light years so um
so that's my uh my thing so tomorrow in account astronomy I think
yeah I I'm gonna it's gonna be a little bit shorter this time Scott uh I wanted this to uh um
um elyra so uh sure and then we'll move on to I have lots of Juicy stuff you can see my
my pile of images I got lots of stuff in thickness and and volpeculus agita
actual we're gonna do those chunks uh in the following weeks so so that's uh yeah so thanks a lot
everyone hey any questions uh you know people just commenting here
at Harold lock says Vega and the whole summer triangles and the clear right right here
um uh let's see I think there's a hundred years from now
the Gillis catalog will be the standard go-to source [Laughter]
lettering but I know there's a lot of people that are further ahead tonight but this is just fun to be able to share
so Scott um for a trillion dollars this time round I think yeah a trillion dollars
per person we we're going to send a probe to um what are the stars right
so we we've got for a few thousand dollars we can do the southern hemisphere star party uh for a couple of
million dollars it was something else I forgot what it was already so now for a trillion bucks but you got to a trillion
it didn't matter anymore we're going to Vega [Laughter]
[Music] I could have some fantasy star parties I
mean the South American Star party I think is is a real thing that we can put together no no it's real and if I was
doing Fantasy Star parties what would I do you know the great uh Omega Centauri
star party you know or are we at where we fly to some two popular clusters you
know what can you imagine that I mean you know I can just see it now I don't know how long it's going to be we'll call it 50 000 years that we're gonna
have a Scott Roberts on a screen giving us a guided tour of Orion or something
that's it just then yeah okay no you know you know what's going to
really happen Simon and everyone is is there we're going to have AR and then there's gonna be probes uh you know
probes will go out there and and we're going to be able to AI experience
yeah robots yeah we'll all have hollow rooms one of
our bedrooms will be uh converted into a hollow room cool be cool well I uh I'd like to
reintroduce Rodrigo zaleida to everybody Rodrigo's been busy uh not only with his
business North Optics but um uh he is uh embarking on becoming a
research astronomer so uh which is totally cool and I'm glad that you were able to spare some time tonight uh
Rodrigo from your from your work so thanks for coming on
yeah well I I started study at astronomy in Chile
um I my first job in um my French studies
astronomy and I work with an astronomer with a project in baby in paranal
Observatory wow
is
amazing work
thank you
oh a super survey awesome okay do you see my stream
yes yes
okay well in in the University one teacher thank you in a tournament is
Argentine Argentina uh tell me do you work for the images of
the various a very word for you and and yes
and then the the project baby work is is a survey
in the Milky Way first uh the the survey and the center
of the Milky Way and the last imagine from the uh solve this on the Milky Way
and I work in a little area near to Alpha Centauri
a in my work I I think in
in the the universe the the Galaxy is many many galaxies uh for
example the Hubble their sky in the little sector of the space is a many
many galaxies the projects work in management products
uh in the study only the the Milky Way but the in the Milky Way the dust and
the and the gas stop the life for the star or structure
a behind the the Galaxy
this telescope is worked only in infrared in three and in three
and [Music]
I wore in two images and the the infrared
my my word is look for the new galaxies
the Milky Way stop the life the the another galaxy
in in this area in centauro and
Fierce a different is a monochrome images and
I have seen the the false color to create the images
and in this area I checked the data and a
don't know a Galaxy in this this is this is Valiant in in my imagine I serve the
new galaxies and the the infrared
so this emerges in the little area and with that and
this star don't see for the Das and the the gas the for the Milky Way and in
this area I is a new
Galaxy for example uh
this this point is a new Galaxy in this area
in 96 a new new galaxies in in two
fields um this is a some the the galaxies
and now a an assignment for Argentina worked with this data for a
[Music] um for a spectroscopy and photometry the
physiology and this is some Galaxy in in this area
and this is the the complete imagine in the little area in the centauro
and this is a big Galaxy in
behind the the dust of the Galaxy or the ability
sorry Rodrigo real quick go back go back oh you've closed it oh yeah
that'd be quick yes what spectrum are we seeing here on that
image is this visible or is it a combination of what you just showed you see a combination for the infrared
oh okay Rodrigo or it's only for an infrared
just uh they they infrared is the near infrared yes okay yes okay yes yeah looks like
visible but it's maybe I don't know who's there yes this area is
outside the visible outside the visible yes but very near very near very near to
the episode then they are inference and yes foreign
for the infrared [Music]
is a red color green color and quarterbacks for the
blue color in High low
um energy to high energy is similar to the visible light
yeah yeah and combinate this band he created
imagine like a monochrome a camera
amazing that's great how big the size of the sensor sorry oh I was going to ask
you this I was going to ask the same question yes
they feel yes
okay yes one one part one a decrease approach
right right so how big is the sensor then I I missed that I think that maybe the sensor is really huge for this field
this is the the telescope is a Whitefield telescope in
are advocate here if a 3.23 wow that is cool and diameter is
a one-free telescope is a survey yes
or sorry no how many meters is the the four one two
one four point one and it's 4.3 F
1.3 you see it's it's a beast it's always small yes five meters no more
than five meters so it's less than 1.3 yes yes
3.3 and
3.3 or 1.3 because it's very 3.3 3.3 okay wow you could you could
roast uh you know come on I can't imagine the the the the
I can't imagine the size of the sensor because a huge because if you have
like one of the of the the silicone is a parallel Observatory
is a little telescope like uh yeah the ability but yeah
um this is the aerial view from their website
yes and come out yes that's a very impressive
Village in our chat that they say that the plane
is starting in the summer fire uh surpari and close to the Andes go to the
to visit the observatory with Robin thank you [Music]
this is the little one
oh this is this looks like it's really high up it is
can you go to when you go to ctio they have these same kind of greats uh in the
ground and this is where all the all the wires uh run through
um and they have them underground like that because I think it's a fox or something comes out and eats the wires
so when I was there setting up for the eclipse uh
uh in 2019 at ctio we were laying all
this you know the fiber cable and everything down underground underneath the these grates you know and so why are
you guys doing that and they said so the animals don't eat them meanwhile all right yes
yeah meanwhile we get eaten by the mosquitoes bigger person with your card maybe there's no mosquitoes up there it
is yeah I was gonna say that it looks like there's nothing up there yeah it's beautiful yeah I can only imagine what
the sky looks like from uh from this Observatory complex probably uh well you
could tell us Rodriguez it's is paranol similar to ctio
like this better sky for the CTO paranol's better okay wow it's more not
the Chile and the the it's more dry yes
it's more dry this is something that I think I tell you my views
ptio we're mind-blowing so I cannot imagine it being better you know I I
will have to visit sometime that's that would be great that's it Scott so for a low low price of three million dollars
per person you are going to build an observatory up there for everybody to use
that's right for only three million dollars per person oh per person okay
yeah well knowing me I would just uh get it and then just let people use it for free so
[Music] anyhow uh look guys why don't we take like a 10 minute break if you want if
you still want to cover some things we can but uh let's take a 10 minute break and then we'll come back and do the
after party uh Pekka said he might uh show up
um so we'll see but uh Rodrigo thank you very much that's very very impressive
yeah future research
yeah it's awesome
yes we're getting killed by the people in the southern Sky I'm telling you that right now I know yeah
um
Argentina work together on their genius and in
I don't know how many argentinians and people from Chile is working in the
paranal but I think that I know that many uh worked in many many projects um the
the the astronomy Chile from 20 or 30 years to
to now it was growing a lot a lot and
they are a huge a huge uh
you say a huge projects really they're amazing
see now Rodrigo is in the team we are proud
of you yeah yeah yeah right Rodrigo you're not going to forget us
when you get really famous right yeah I don't know
we have the plan for next year or I don't know when but we're gonna start in
Argentina going to to the barbecue for a small third party in in civil koi go to
the Andes Mendoza San Rafael sarkari
and go with Rodrigo to visit the observatories it's okay that's okay
okay so we we need to tack on another ten thousand dollars to the price list then no no no
you went if you actually in Argentina we have a huge huge crisis that nothing is
in Chile in India we have the products and it is every year is okay
Argentina our economy is that never Is So High by this okay but but okay but
every year Simon is so difficult to to explain our life in Argentina but I
don't know oh it's the government
maybe Rodrigo that is yeah yes it's an adventure but come on
and actually if you show some dollars and say okay come on you have everything
from but because it's it's um our economy is a roller coaster it's
the best it's the best explanation that's okay
well unfortunately for us here in the northern hemisphere here in the U.S and probably parts of Europe for the people
that want to come along to this party they're going to pay in US Dollars and they're going to pay
harder remember we have meat we have barbecues
remember oh yeah exactly sure yeah yes yes we are in trouble if we receive
people we're vegetarians but uh we're going to a
um convert to admit
yes but Simon is not vegetarian no I'm not vegetarian only almost anything literally almost anything bugs you name
it okay who's your who is your country Simon I don't remember where are you
from right now uh I'm actually in the US okay yeah because you have a
English yes well I was born in London so yeah yeah yeah yeah I was born in the UK so
but I live here in in L.A now well I say here it's wherever here is
where did you live in United States now uh Los Angeles
oh amazing amazing yes I know that it's like a people in Argentina that there
came from Korea we have a many many uh you you for example this is
um for me uh we have a huge uh Community from for example from Korea or
um but especially Korean Korean is people that when they start to show in
Argentinian normally actually they are the second or the third generation
Japanese people is maybe the fourth generation and is is
um is uh when you sometimes in a uni
sometimes you are away um expecting that in touristic areas
with a guy that have maybe came from IA
from a country from Asia when it started to turn
that this is a very entertaining accent they say come on many times I started for example we had
a store in a very touristic area and the
the funny thing in many countries in South America and especially in Argentina is that you never expect who
who is the face of a typical Argentinian I'm
you start to talk uh in English for a minute and say no sorry
that they take come on I am from you know Los Angeles my four blocks from
here right and maybe you've thought that oh this guy maybe came is a tourist no
please he's a neighbor from two blocks
it's all all time is um
it's a mix for example Maxi Maxi have the family from Friends
wow yeah yeah France Spain Germany some kind
of Brazilian and also from native from San Diego it's a mix yeah it makes you
know I gotta ask you though um it's weird because I think we are spoiled
here in the U.S in terms of like uh access to equipment how is it for you guys down there yeah in terms of
yes remember that my business is no I know I know what you saw what you do but
I mean I I I'm so curious um yes to understand it it's a great
question Simon it's a great question because in Argentina um she have a better economy because
when you visit Chile one year another year they have is it something that
Rodeo can say that um uh that have a a a great day it's stable
yes Chile is sustainable is a roller coaster this is a 200
200 uh pesos
now this is like 1.17 dollars
is maybe like a 15. they're not um 50 or yeah or more
like Echo 2 with a
140 millimeters of a nice millimeters
without a motorized and everything so the economy is very if if we have too
many inflation so uh our peso our money
is evolution yes the public the public
there the public spam is ridiculous and it's something
that really have a better or better really uh idea of an economy and here is
and this is why this is why um every year the people is
better forest and they they are uh actually for for the people I know that
I sell telescopes but um sometimes I need to resolve for the
people that the for example something that Scott know is sometimes I uh about
uh I make orders to explore scientific this is something that is our backstage
but it's interesting to me to the people to know because um for example one year I prefer Seoul
only months like 100 sorry X is 100 and
the people put their their own reflex camera with their own uh Therapeutics to
start to make photography and choose the in the in the in the
second year choose the optical tube assembly they say come on but this is this is
real because it's people that have opportunities to to to
to to about to buy something uh me or Maxi we are people that work we
are fortunately we have work um of course that exists people that it
we have a lot of inflation but it's uh isn't how it uh like Utopia it's like
um you know it's perfection yes it's something that you say come on
it's a rich country because if you listen about Argentina the exportation
of thoughts or or some have something of Technology many cars are made in
Argentina but with a very bad system of economy the things uh never work
properly it's something that came out well
when I started in this hobby but now I'm going to try to be a little bit more
professional I only start with my cell phone uh I don't know if you saw some
pictures that I took oh no I saw them all not the Moon
yeah yes the the people something that that I I can say because I saw to Maxie
from for from the first day that he's starting to uh to post uh pictures for
deep sky but three years ago maybe or four I don't remember and the only thing
that only thing that I makes some support to Maxi was Maxi only
change uh to another IPS if you are using your cell phone for me was
fantastic because he he was in Argentina the first that started to use uh not
saying another way Huawei cell phone
and maybe maybe yeah no I think I've seen these before yes but this one I
think that the old ones have maybe three years and three years yes and I remember
the there is a okay Maxi try with I don't remember Maxi if I tell you that
change to to uh and only the focal length of their for their eyepiece he
told me okay I and he uh make a much
better pictures only because he understood and he have uh
um a great energy to to try and try and come out
um he he was mind-blowing the you know when you have in the in the social Nets
when you have people that can't it's it's working with astrophotography with big
equipment and and they they tall they
told him that no no after photography it's a serious business only
um with many many years to try and he may be a professional idea
and he's starting to to maybe in few months to to make the pictures with
their Huawei and they say come on max maybe it's not like obviously the the
perfect a picture of um with the with very good colors
um without noise and everything but for a beginner to start to or to try to know
the the sky or what's around me it's a
it's a good moment to see what you you have in your
pocket you know and you with only pictures of 30 seconds in raw formats
that it took a picture today your cell phone
um you can stack it a process it and use you have a and you get a a very good
picture of a deep Sky object a
I remember some people that say no astrophotography is only with uh
yeah or only with reflex camera or CCD but they say come
on don't worry Maxi I I only you know I
remember this yeah that's encouraged me to prove to them that you can do
astronomy well today with everything you can draw it you can take pictures with
your cell phone you can take this with this here or camera with a webcam that's true yeah yeah you know I think people
keep forgetting that astrophotography was originally done on 35 millimeter
film I mean I know Scott probably remembers all of that crazy stuff I'm
not because I am Young soon
yes that's for sure a little bit earlier my 8 by 10 inch
glass plate shot on the 100 inch at Mount Wilson tonight oh you actually did that then
I didn't do it oh it's done yeah if I get a picture soon out earlier okay so
you can see the date on this October 24th or 21st 1924. well it's almost 100
years old how do we make your screen bigger because I can barely read that okay hold on because I genuinely want to
see this yes I need to see uh let's see let's do that and in photography can you
see it or do you want me to share my screen yeah no um how do we make your screen bigger
ah there we go okay wow October 21st
1924 this is plate 306. and it's in there
it's in here beautiful yeah let me get up yeah
yeah don't get your fingers on it otherwise it's going to degrade over time yeah
it's already a hundred or nearly 100. there's here
ah it's so beautiful whoa a blade a plane
well the Moon oh my God can you imagine and it says on here
speaking to this English Holdings
bilateral type the girl type no this is not a daguerreotype this is a glass plate
okay glass plate yes because yes yes oh God Scott please don't drop it
[Laughter] how old is that
four years old how much for no 96 years old no 9 years
ago hold on this is 2021 97 years old three more years near to the 100 yes so
this was
red I can't read the all the names
but the guy that shot this shot a bunch of stuff of the Moon
um and um and this is through the 100 inch that meant well
you know the funniest thing here is though the the resolution on a glass
plate is actually going to far exceed any digital sensor that can take a
picture of the Moon that's the Killer part of it and that's the part that I love is the technology
even old technology is exceeding today's technology yes
um maybe I don't know the the size of the grain um but maybe in many type of plates you
don't have a real grain if not it's a only
um how do you say only uh the grain is the molecular it's uh and I don't know if in
this glass you can see the tarnishing of the silver
actually on the back and uh yes yes don't have brain it's maybe so very very
they're very fine silver halide crystals that's what they yeah yes if they say
something of the crystal yes yes but it's very very small um yeah it's yeah many times and since
this is something that in technology uh it's uh
the the connection between Optics and the pixel size and this is something
that Rodrigo maybe that working in professional astronomy now
all time for for uh the finance astronomy is that many many times
um the size of of the every disk is bigger than the pixel size
and this is why the the connection between the technology and the all
Optics is something to know um if you like that all work together
you um need to to put in a in a in a perfect
perfect function the the every disk that this line is
physics with the size of something that is a small mixer and this is incredible
because sometimes in one year's uh 100 years telescope today you can
uh return to the life uh with uh right with camera and we have again the old
telescope are coming to the life you know so
Caesar there there's uh one of the people watching this program I think it's Harold Locke
um uh wants to know how he can help support the renovation you know uh so uh you
know whether that's through you know Financial contributions or uh you know
he's he wants to he wants to talk to you about this so
um uh I will uh
Harold I'll I'll get your email with anime with Annie and uh we will uh
connect you with Caesar and you guys can have an offline conversation about it so yeah yeah it's great for us because yes
in a few weeks more I'll return to to work again
and the restoration of San Miguel Observatory um actually we are only awaiting the
position of the major of Samuel over the observatory and this is something that
we are working with a Google telescope or side telescope that have more than
100 years and we are only in the in trying this telescope we are of
obtaining a huge and beautiful pictures of the sunspots or the moon in the night
and with modern cameras this is something that it's great to
return to the life this kind of telescopes
and it's a it's it's a time you know where the bigger refractor for medium
size or is more than like the telescope that we are restoring
was made with a huge quality um it's very interesting to to use them
and of course bring to the life again
right that is very important work you know yeah I think that a lot of these instruments uh still can have major
influence upon their communities uh you know they can still do science
um absolutely there's there's a lot of you know and so for them just to be abandoned and and to be you know damaged
by
we think that it's only a problem of our country but in the world
um it's something that politics are the same um I was amazed that whole
um many uh instruments from from uh for
example um Palomar uh Observatory that is not only the big telescope with not a lot of
different telescopes in the area or instruments that are they're bringing uh
uh to the life again um I watch I watch an all-time the the
Facebook Friends of the historical observatories and they are making in many many place
people that are making a huge work to to restoring historical observatories it's
it's really great it's great and we are waiting to start in
we started but we need to to have the position to start
strongly to restoring and putting the functions uh more which is possible yeah
it will certainly take money and uh everyone uh volunteerism you know for
people that might absolutely maybe um you know maybe you can think along the idea of uh having
um where people travel down there from the United States and they work in a to
help restore the observatory so you know yes it's very very
important to to to dung and lose don't
miss this type of things because it's part of our culture our history yes in
different communities of course and when you listen come on the observatories
like hell or or yeah subservatory that where you worked in a lot uh to to
restore um I I watched the the huge eyepiece that is exploring different donate to
the observatory and this is great because you uh bring to the life and all
one and the biggest no-scope with a new technology and have the possibility to
put the Eyes in a the biggest refractor in the world it's amazing it's something
magic is incredible thank you Caesar that's great well Pekka
how are you I'm fine thank you Scott how are yourself oh good good so
um we've had a good night tonight um uh we ended up uh the last part of it
was with uh Cameron and uh Rodrigo here Rodrigo is showing us uh his work at
paranal Observatory so Rodrigo is becoming a um he's he's gone from being
a amateur astronomer to becoming a professional research astronomer so gee
very cool so nice Okay you're right I have to watch the beginning as
reported right I have a lot of uh laptop
that processors time of sleep so oh yes
right so what is happening on in the in your area with uh light pollution light
pollution is uh right now is because it's uh summer vacation times so
everything almost closed until mid August
so this is when everybody is almost on vacation huh so
Swedish stand still right now we have kovid we have summer vacation times we
had uh nothing's happening government crisis we still have a government
crisis yeah uh yeah so uh and they have making a new
people next year so my light pollution uh
fighting it's like white flags from everywhere please
I listen to you the other day when you say me in my Facebook page for my birthday
I grabbed some something hey
maybe in 50 days it comes here to my home yeah I don't know how we're going
to pay it but it will it will it will be maybe it changed a little bit
it's a new astro photography camera oh
nice so um
no no I buy a a cwo
um um 533 oh 500 seconds
it's a square a a sensor that has a 3.7
a 74 pixel microns yeah pixels
uh is going to down I I think it was 18 18 a Quantum
efficiency efficiency and I don't remember another yeah
all around camera yeah it's like DSLR
and you have a nice Moon camera there and also deep Sky yes I because I want
to try to um to get more professional real quick let's say goodbye to Rodrigo because he
just messaged us thank you
so I I want to take pictures uh with a
better resolution of galaxies and with my F4 telescope it gives me some kind of
um fov but give me I think it will give me some big details of different
galaxies and also uh with some kind of nebulas maybe it doesn't fits a lot but
it will change something so I I hope that came
I have to see with the advana I don't have I don't know how I'm going
to pay the the importation the taxes but
I I I buy it so I think in 50 days
the pace that say is going to be here they unfortunately that camera is only
color camera yes remember that we are going to beat
our company with the representative to the dealer for seed will be the owner
Argentina oh yes of course um because
no but no no no but actually it's the same because um
uh no no I'm happy why because you are an excellent Ambassador for the brand
that you choose and actually I we need that you choose uh uh exploring
different telescope the ace WBO for me is okay but of course
that okay yes yes I need to sponsor a
little bit so it depends on how long it is because it expects to take some time and I think Cameron is
but is it's uh no it's great for me it's really great that you choose set as the
reveal unfortunately I don't have I let I loved another brand that branded that
have uh hqi is yeah
no no problem because I can give you support
it's okay if you if you if you can don't
pay don't pay the taxes it's much better it is of course
you pay the you know all right final price with taxes and okay but you know
yeah close our fingers and help me yeah so
yeah well unfortunately uh I think I sell my another telescope uh the the F5
telescope that's illegal to send telescope no no
that's why it's the restaurant the Celestron no no no no no that's I still
have it but the aq5 and the a
150 millimeters the F5 the EF5 that is the yes and actually we are
who uh which telescope you are thinking and right now I'm still having I'm going
to still have the same ETA yes exactly but
uh in my living room that is my what I what I eat too I have in a corner the
the eight inches and in the other another
corner is the the aq5 and the what let
me stop the uh yeah show us your telescope like it
did what this is going to go away uh yeah this is
going to go away
yes my fiance says someone has to go so
what's gonna deal
think twice think twice
I know about the camera okay I think I'm
going to paint it black you know this is a live streaming program she's probably yeah
you are on a very thin ice you are walking a very easy nice yes
it's a great very understandable yes
but with lucky I we are in winter so the ice is maybe a little uh will thicker
yeah but it's cracking I think that yes correctly you're liking everything guys
like you pick a say the best description yes you need to to
live one Telescope yes um if you if you like white color too I
I'll receive uh five inches Apple refractor
uh from expert scientific of course I only two because I am
our friend can't use God know that they say okay
yes in a time that telescopes are so rare because it does exist so uh we are
waiting where the Max and um and a white and two two special uh
five five uh
I think that one is for me I don't like to sell again
another one no problem no problem if I if if a
friend it's it uh is going to to buy one of this
um but I I don't like to to be hope about this because
ever ever in this time especially I need to solve it but
um I I start to imagine and say okay it's a one for me and I can I can uh
yeah yes I don't have what you want
no no anytime that because um for for Pekka maxinos uh or Simon in
our store we have a a showroom and you
know for for me all time I keep for our stuff I say because uh within telescope
to to try you know um to study the quality but
um and bring to my home telescope that I keep for two years and of course it is
something that I'm cell telescope but I am uh I am I'm at the restaurant I love
astronomy too and but in the last two years
um with this dry of telescope and
with this a small number in stock and many people say okay I need
a telescope who is this this is not for sale because it's only for for our staff
to you know to go to safaris and say but come on can you can you solve sell me
this telescope and when I say I am say yes okay
maybe the worst part was the last year we'll say okay no problem I I can solve
you on a special prayer because we use this telescope
um and and and I thought they say okay in one month more
I need I can receive another five inches April for the telescope no anymore this
wasn't from last year and yes the the Father
the the manufacturers don't have more telescopes you know it's funny it got to
a point for us where the only thing that we had left in inventory is broken stuff
and the worst part of it was is customers were still trying to buy the
damn thing we'll fix it it's it's fine it'll buff out I'm like yeah okay
yes no no yeah it's it's incredible at the end and the glass will just buff out
yeah oh yeah yes you can you know if it's just black paint in there it's
gonna be okay I think it's John Dobson saw that he'd probably strangle us yes people would be okay second hand Mark if
you're in Sweden it's blowing it up now because those who bought a uh like
behind their Scopes chests were and Khalid started
and now there is a bunch of new Tony and one 30 millimeters and then and 117 and
uh so it's I have a notice on my phone when
somebody puts on the same I get the p on my phone and it's only newtonians 130 131 30. yes
yes only toy telescopes yes beginner telescopes yes
um for medium for medium we have one last
size really fine astrograph for saying I I think it's four four thousand five
hundred dollars yes I was watching about that but now
I have mine and what I what I uh saw now when I was capturing Jupiter with my
Celestron 8 inch when you get United with your scope
with the rivers but you you can't I think of my spokes
when I put them on the mount I get to have we get to get United
before it delivers exactly what I want and it will when you are
when you are you know what it can deliver you get it
but you have to chase you have to choose the right scope for that moment right
and I was between my Ed 120 or my 8 inch
and I didn't know do you have both the eggs and the nine
yes uh they choose the nine point uh 25.
no I don't have that one I have 120 millimeters refractor
yes nine of water no I don't have none I don't have nothing poster I have 11 inch
CST and I 11 inch ah yes yes sorry 11. I remember that you have 11 11. yes that's
too heavy for me uh for to lifting on the mouth because I for my operation I I
am not allowed to lift that heavy yet because um my um
how do you say the stings and so on and everything they had not leaked yet
to lift off on that 11 inch yeah yeah yes I have to train my my stomach
muscles to to be ready to leave that uh heavy thing but they did I can share my
picture of the Jupiter um I wanted yes it was wonderful I like
to to watch a game so I'm going to cut in real quick um I'm gonna say goodbye to everybody
because uh I know what the cat wants she wants me to turn the AC back on because she keeps on you know going to the AC
what's bad in here it is it is actually really really hot in here because I turn my AC off now so it is really killing me
you before you leave Simon yes about lunch and solar and I have got my first
right but with the pressure tuning yeah because when you are going close first
you have like Overexposed and when you're tuning inwards you get those fine details right
but uh when I got the really close I get
this dark uh you know dark line in the middle and of like overexpose it on the
both sides do I have to have before
I get those details and then for adjustments with focus and with exposure
time to get those features or should I go so close and then tune it okay are
you using single stack or double stack single um are you've got the you've got the
pressure tuner obviously yes this is what I would suggest before you tune the scope
set it up let it acclimate in the heat um with the Lun 80 and then
or the 50 yeah they're pretty much the same so where you see the pressure tuner yeah turn it until it comes out and it
will go pop and it will release all the air on the inside and then put it back in and then start
to tune it because it sounds like What's Happening Here is you shouldn't have a sweet spot on that
scope because it's not a tilt tuner it's a pressure tuner yeah so when you release that pressure out and then you
put it back in it should even itself back again okay so if you've got that
black line or you've got one side brighter than the other then there's something wrong with the pressure on the
inside just like the adeline's Tilted yeah yeah it could be
there with their legroom could it be the Rings O-rings making
no it's it's it's very very rare because you will know when you turn the uh the
pressure tuner it gets harder and harder and harder and you feel it yeah yeah so if there was
um an O-ring leak you would actually just go off band within seconds as it leaks out because there's more you turn
at the small pressure first again and then fine-tuning in again
acclimate for about 15-20 minutes it does not take long on a solar scope okay
but do not point it at the sun just have it out so it can acclimate then you can
go try that first okay and flats how about Flats um with a 50 that's going to be really
tricky to do a flat frame to be totally honest the only thing you can really do is um get get something like a white
T-shirt or something that can diffuse the image without changing capture
higher Flats in the program right but you still have to make this the um the scope be able to take the
flats in the first place but with a 50 millimeter it's very very tricky because you've got a lot of black and then
you've only got the sun on the middle yeah for example because you're obviously have full disc okay I will then adjust the train uh the pressure
charging tuning in the beginning and next year okay a little bit more because
the lungs do not suffer from what we refer to as angle of incident um with tilt tuning it's it's a big
thing so it depends on the angle that you look at it at and the angle of the scope makes huge differences with the
Lun it doesn't happen you get those new Junior rings yeah no the Newton rings are something
else and Newton rings as if you have two flat surfaces uh optically coming together not touching but just in
parallel that's where Newton rings come in okay [Music] without don't say either
yeah so just just training for the pressure and tuning yeah like I said nine times out
of ten it just if you get that weird Sweet Spot we'll call it it's to do with
the the tuna on the inside the pressure needs to be released and then you you
build it back up otherwise you get all sorts of problems
gold for me yeah no no problem that's what I'm here for it helps me
helps me a lot so I know now what to look after yes
perfect thanks Simon thanks all right I'm gonna go turn the AC on before uh my cat screams at me anymore yeah
okay thank you man okay all right good night everyone thank you
I will first uh share my absolutely first image of Jupiter okay and this is
with DSLR and 3 100 Milli meters now leans but I think it's about 210
uh millimeter on there but this is my absolutely first image from Jupiter
and you can see um
wait the moves oh yeah looking at it myself yeah you can see
that that is just in taking in panic yes it was I was running after my uh
small tripod down camera and before it opens you can see the three lines here
before it goes behind the trade trees but I got some
with my 8 inch when did you get this these pictures
this was this 25th month Sunday
oh five five inches sorry no egg into the
red spot this is eight inch eight inches you can see a little bit of Terraria
and then I took one over explosive you can see three
those moons there is one I think this is feel
uh Kalisto and Oreo
but I think two is no it is one is behind
uh yeah I think yeah let's see what I have
written in my Facebook yeah
it's this is here
so this is my second try to Jupiter great and uh
yeah it's very low it's 80 degrees from Horizon
yeah and and I have only spot about 20
degrees in umutol and I thought that the minimum height
was 25 degrees altitude but I when I saw it and look it on the
stellarium I noticed my God it's 18 degrees so right so on one second I got
got seven degrees more space to I know I can reach
so I don't know that I can reach uh down to 15 degrees
so I hope my whole planning just get okay now we have more space to
to cover and I got some picture also from uh sun
and you can see that the the as we talked with Simon you have this Brighton
area and I didn't know that I have to let it
tune in so long before you you shut down the moon and
some details yes that's what I got from
this week but it now I know that I have to tune it better runs
and now we have cloudy for one week so you get to pay pay
for a week um hey did you they rotate we should post
or it's only a single you know it's just two and a half minute Avi and all cell
and stack it so I just I just wanted to test my 18 Channel and it would because
doing it obviously in the single picture when you stuck them uh you in this case
it has a lot of information but I think where you're going to do some the
rotation of only maybe 15 minutes of videos
uh you will give more information and
more details with that scope uh I think you can use video person on that
yes but but the sorry but the pictures is a video and stack it will write his
text or it's a single picture no it's uh it's with how to stack it first yeah
yeah yeah and then the details are impossible in a single
picture yeah no no I imagine but but I felt when I was Imaging Jupiter
I I felt immediately that okay this this is not gonna be Imaging this is gonna be
me and my scope United and take you all that that
because I thought that okay this light has started these photons has started
from Sun traveled past me to the Jupiter
and just do behind beside me to the jupiteria and then bounce it back into
my small sensor in my camera and I can look it in my screen at that
very moment and I felt that okay that is what that is what my scope
delivers to me and my camera sensor that those photons has traveled first from
you you try to connect it spiritually and astronomically
um this is this is Becca's path yes
yeah yeah I got all those three uh
unite together and and deliver something for my eyes to
look and forever in that moment and I was like my God I am watching Jupiter
that far away on this in space and that that ball is just floating there
unknown that I am watching watching it and taking
you know I saw obviously last night now this night because it's a very cloudy
but uh the another night yeah I saw obviously Saturn Jupiter and then the
moon and I try to do it like a 3D
um map okay I'm here but this is the moon but I'm trying to be in Jupiter and
then Saturn and you you got that time to realize that you are
handling the solar system yes with your mind yes
then you get in my word how I think when you can can get your feeds from above
from Earth and you are there with them but your camera is doing the
work for you exactly now you can get those that that moment of
real astronomy for me we we are thousand and
we are ten thousand astronomers and everyone feel their own way but if you
can give a hint how to prepare you for those moment can I hope I can help
somebody to get that floating floating feeling that you are
yeah with them with them there and sometimes when obviously I today I'm
doing a astrophotography and I I also I
love to to take pictures to find some places but sometimes you need to
put out that and try to see with your own eyes yes while you're trying to
capture because absolutely agree more that's important yeah it connects you
with the nature yes and they did space uh obviously you're maybe you you're not
going to see it like in the picture but it's in there so
but knowing what you take and knowing what you are seeing uh that's a very
important connection uh with this a with the astronomy yes and
obviously with the planet seeing another planet a giant planets a also them with
the moons passing by absolutely yeah today I saw I think it was the first
image of um I think it was a Uranus
um and a mom passing by a project in the shadow in the surface I
think I think it was
she posted that image I don't know if it was from the hello telescope but it's a
an impressive image because obviously you you see a interpreter a passing by
Kalisto another
planet obviously Saturn well it happened
in some some years but in this a giant
planets that they are very far away from us uh it still happens so
yes that's a another thing with the automatic of today of the
GSP of what's around us and was beyond
my astral friend here in Stockholm at um and with the go-to Mounds if you don't
have uh really good go-to alignment you are
going to Rude rule your evening to get with those big scopes
celestronate teams because the focal length is so if you are
find something and get that on the on the focus because I have the Focus motor
also uh I'm I'm gonna ruin the whole night to
find that Target to get focus and then begin to shoot uh
instead I don't take the scope or I leave the scope get my pinoculars and watch with
them and then the only it enjoy instead that ruined my whole night to get
focused and find a Target so I will uh
foreign
for next season and then just park my mouth and I know that the go-to
alignment is perfect for visual work
because it's going to take you lots of hours in light polluted skies I have
I'm gonna not find anything to shoot you around and I don't know if that's the correct
star even so I have to make it very early in Autumn when I have only optors like
vegan those Bright Stars so I know that okay that is 100 sure Arcturus
and then save the alignment now I know that okay I can take a fainter objects
but otherwise I get crazy I'm just like spoiling my whole night
I know that's why I got my hairs shorted so I cannot rip it off
I get two of these sticks when I am what is this I get sticks under mayonnaise
scratching my head that my head [Laughter]
well gentlemen it is now midnight okay yes and
some of the audience is already starting to fall asleep
good stories after party stories yes keep energy for
the next Safari yes yes right absolutely right you you have the time for the next
scope uh the well I don't have the theme yet no I I usually what I do is after I
finish the star party I then think about okay what's what's yeah yeah I read the
you know uh some of the newer um advances in astronomy you know and I
tried to get a theme based off of that you know how to unite with your
what's that how to unite with yourself how do you Unite with your telescope that's true well Jerry Hubble and I
always talk about making the equipment disappear you know because yeah and the
universe is what you're talking about that yeah that is the thing
all your equipment is working correctly yes
it's muscle memory and you know how the instrument Works yes then it's it's
like a musician with their Instagram you know your violin the
violin disappears and the musicness everything exactly you are united with your telescope yes that's disappears
like you said you are just seeing that the status focus is somewhere there
but you don't know where you just see the thing in the front of you and that's
3D that's right you are there and Telescope helps you with that that's
therefore I just need to unite it with my mouth and therefore I'll get those
those uh you know calls you know when
you hair is rising yes and when you go on the balcony and you unwrap the the
cover and see it okay my pal you are going to work for me tonight
that's great yes well Maxie Cesar and Cameron thank you
very much uh for any of the presenters that are still watching thank you for uh
participating in the 56th Global Star Party um and for the audience uh that uh all
the great comments and questions and uh you know uh camaraderie uh you know it's
it's it's the combinations the culmination of all this that make Global
Star Party what it is and um so you know I someone paid me a very nice compliment
earlier but uh you know I can't take I can't take credit for it I I
um you know I I know that it is the combination of the audience and the
presenters and uh you know our shared vision and love for the sky that make it all happen
so you know it's just nice to be part of it so let's go to you have made already
a huge a whole new uh kind of
not Institute but you have made a one kind of lifestyle you made you made you have
made something that was forced on us because of the pandemic now you have a a style that we all know
okay yeah that's time is easiest time
that we are going to share and we know the rooms we know how this works yeah
you know how it works that's right yeah and you know everybody knows that okay
we're gonna get this from this evening and then then I
I'm happy rest of the week yeah thank you man thank you yes well you know it
is um you know the it's the only way to have a global star party you know we
have to get online together you are uniting us all around the world
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Seattle that's right yeah that's right United Emirates watching uh we've had
people from Egypt watching yeah uh you know it it is a global audience a global
participation kind of thing and uh so fantastic
same Sky even so that's uh kind of weird thing
but different times mm-hmm so when the Sun rises here it sets for you but the
same yeah
sometimes when I see that it sets so I think okay now it's rising for you thank
you thank you I I think okay take care of him because
you are going to send it to me next next evening for the rising
okay thank you so tomorrow tomorrow will be back with Cameron Gillis for more cam
astronomy and um uh we have uh you know
more programming all the way through Friday and so and then back to the next
Global star party I do want to announce that um we may be taking about one week
off okay because I have to make a trip so yes
so I would get this out of it gone for about a week
coming to Europe don't you uh I have before but not this time okay because
you told that to you I've been in Hungary or it was in I've been I've Been
to Spain I've been to England I've been to Germany
so yeah anybody wants those guys who are running away
they are challenged by having a giant Star Party there with
thousands and thousands of people yeah was it in that town that they
said that was closer than something like that in the city in
Romania or Hungaria there was an old observatory in the city
and they renovated it oh they did I think it was in one star
party for a long long time ago last spring Hungarian let's see if we can find out
here real quick it wasn't uh it was a concrete building and it was like
falling down already and they took over it from the government of the city and
they began to renovate it hmm with funded money
in Romania yeah in Romania huh yeah
Romania it was on the Star Party yes I don't doubt that
the Admiral the seal Ursa now Observatory
a day you should have us then there's the astronomical Institute of Romanian Academy but I don't know if that was um
I can't remember no it was a long time I remember I just remembered that you told
me I'll wake up in the middle of night but it's hey
hey no if you if somebody over you are going to come to to Scandinavia I'm happy to
show you around oh I would love that yeah there is so much places that will
not be in the show went to tourists that is absolutely something to to see
because they have their they have their roots and everybody sees that but there are so
much more to see so and and we we love Pekka we love the
uh an Argentinian in Argentina in Argentina sorry it's the people is
amazing with the old TV series and Netflix that are from your country
Sweden yeah Sweden all the influenot and maybe in the
United States the same because the the success of the of the Sweden TV series
from you know police or yeah come on
I think you have seen the back back movies starhan or the the Box Millennium series
are all about the the culture it's Argentinian opposite it all people said
why which serious yes I watched the series from Sweden
the United States of America to South America and we just want to go there
yeah we don't scared of us reading at all or Finland
here is nothing that's not true we go to sweetness the
dream of many people you know yeah I know yeah you know I know there is benefits here also but but sometimes you
know some picture is too small so you got to get
because the weather here he yes I understand but you have you can do
astronomy in the middle of the night in winter time yeah yeah it's so it's still warm it's
like 10 degrees Celsius yeah in January the night games without Twilight night
and day is like boom bang yeah yeah and here we have a we have a
Twilight we have a dark I think I'm stay uh like uh environmental night and then
comes the astronomical night that's only a couple of hours I think in that time
when you do ask uh photography you don't need a a cooler camera no no no no you
have this this boundary you have day and then bang it's
nice yeah yeah absolutely they don't have that we have
like in summertime up north the Sun never goes down it just
bounces on the horizon and up again and winter time maybe 90 days or or not
90 but 60 days the Sun never rises above horizontal it starts all day 24 Hours
night wow yeah in up north it's like that and
summertime Sun never go I have seen once we was on the lake and it was very calm
the sun gets down and down and chest touches the Horizon and then up again
and then back up yes yes
like here in Antarctica oh my gosh yeah that sounds don't even realize when how
do you sleep I mean yeah it's it's problem is it a difficult to sleep when
I think is that dude that makes different because yeah
human assets or that I mean system and that they have problems with
those they have we can see because those who lives up north
they are very much smaller people than we are here in South in growth and that
has to be with melatonin levels to do because they are like 160 all of them they are shorter
than me yeah enough knows people so it has to be something with melatonin uh
melatonin oh yeah sure it has the same problem people here in bushwire or Santa
Cruz that no it's not so strong the difference but you have maybe that at 11
p.m that you can see the sun yeah but they are more uh healthy they have
longer Lifetime and then we have here they live close to Nature all the time
they are outside almost more than 70 of
their time so there are more healthy up north and every year in summer itself
sure so they are very close to Nature
so I want to see the hours also I have seen those I have seen those once
in my lifetime Milky Way never I'm origami never yes never never I want to come to us and see
the way yeah we'll make sure that you see it yeah I have to send my gears in
advance with container ship right well we have uh we in 2022 and I've
talked about it several times but we have the Arizona dark sky star party yeah it's a nice dark sky sight about
oh uh maybe an hour and a half south of Tucson you know I will be there yeah if
not before party if not before school if not before okay all right yes well
you're welcome you're welcome thank you thank you all right okay gentlemen well we will call it a
night thank you so much and yeah and to the audience keep looking up as my old
friend Jack horkheimer used to say so yeah camera
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